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To 1.6 mm Mike, but where's the problem? Easy to pull the wheels out for you EM'ers but I suspect you may have more of an issue with the flanges hitting the brake blocks. I'd have thought you'd have been more bothered about the door latch remaining with the door when it's slid open rather than remaining with the fixed body. 😛

My preferred option is to turn down the original Rapido 3 hole wheel as I think they capture the look of the prototype rather well. (I photographed some a couple of months ago). Having re- checked Colin's Warship wheels, it looks like they utilise his standard 12.6 mm tyre. At the point were the root of the flange meets the 1:20 coning angle, I measured the diameter at 12.68 mm. Same place on the Rapido is 13.14 mm. I suspect after thinning the Rapido wheels to 1.8 mm and turning the flange down with the form tool there will still be a clash with the brake blocks. I also have my suspicions that some form of springing or compensation my be needed for P4. The wagon sits perfectly on a plate of glass with all four warship wheels sharing the load but when running on my "wibbly~wobbly" test track, which has extreme dips and gradient changes, one wheel will lift sufficiently for the P4 flange to clear the railhead (See Phot). Before I experiment with adding springing it will get a full workout through the single & double slops slips on a mates layout.

As a trial, I popped some 13mm Gibson Warship wheels (originally fitted to a Clayton 17) onto some pinpoints. Didn't think they would fit as the brake shoes are set for 00, delicate and well glued in along with all of their associated gubbins. Started to scrape the inside of the brake blocks to a taper for clearance but one block hanger bought it, so I just tried the wheels at the unmodified end. I had to remove a bit of a boss around the bearing holes but the wheels fit and are free to rotate without touching the brake blocks. 23mm between the inside faces of the W irons so looks like Mr. Bradwells springing plates could be an option. Not too sure about the freight red through (or whatever colour BR was calling it that week). Bauxite surely for mid 1962 and that oversize "XP"? Nothing like the official BR pics of B786873 when it was new. P

1000 mm, 3 hole disk. Hallelujah for the form tool.

What's this... my fingers are itching. A sure sign that the 1/227's have landed at Rapidoland UK H.Q. and will shortly be being introduced to the British Parcel & courier services distribution network. Do my digits deceive me or should I continue to trust my itch? P

Well I'm blowed! Was it really seven years ago? (Reminded me to upload the image). https://www.rmweb.co.uk/topic/62412-things-that-make-you/?do=findComment&comment=2398693

Is Mr. B's Hornby P4 wheels article innit? P

But there's no confirmation from Hornby and we have no knowledge of how many of this will be allocated to model shops. As Mike has said, "we don't know". Pre-orders don't necessarily translate into definite sales and there's a long wait until the estimated delivery time. As I said earlier, "Time will tell". It's a well known sales tactic to say something is selling well or sold out to hype sales. (I'm not saying Hornby has done this). The folk at Hornby obviously think it will be a money spinner for them. I look forward to seeing the photographs of the pre production samples. It's only a three channel sound chip. A one channel improvement on the earlier own brand Hornby decoder but still way less sophisticated than the more costly Zimo or ESU offerings.

Is there absolute confirmation of that? The Hornby website is ambiguous as ever just stating, "Unavailable". Then there will be the stock allocated to the tier one retailers. If it's delivered on time, it's at least over eighteen months away. Maybe just long enough for Bachmann to take a leaf out of Hornbys book and do a spoiler run. I note that Hornby have only used photographs of the prototype and not the model in all the pre-publicity. Maybe I should have responded earlier by asking, "Is there a need for an accurate DP2?"

But is there really a need for another DP1 ? Only time will tell.

Well they are almost there with the tooling for DP2.

Thanks for the reply. Looks like some modelling will be required. Calling Mr Railtech... Calling Mr Railtech...

That's a good list of traders. I note that a few of them were "standard" attendee's at the old Scalefour north. With a scalefour (North?) event now happening at Crewe just one week after Railex, and taking into account the current economic situation, it makes me wonder how many of those dual attendee traders will decide to only attend the more remunerative railex.

Maybe the sign-writer made a cock up?

Are they on the Ferry? (Serious head on) The flying crate logo on the "Through the Continent by British Railways" version looks a bit squashed in the vertical plane & elongated in the horizontal. Much like the doctored drawing part way down this page https://www.igg.org.uk/gansg/4-rstock/04arstock9.htm and referred to earlier in the thread. Will 910003 (B787213) be delivered with a correctly proportioned flying crate (and without the end stanchions) or I'm I going to have to do some modelling?

Parcels DMU near Hanwell. 12 April 1975. by Kevin Lane on Flickr. L342 by Kevin Lane, on Flickr Think a going away shot might have appeared earlier in the thread?

Now there's a coincidence. I used to take the odd gill with Leslie Welch. This Leslie Welch was a splendid fellow who did a fine job of keeping the sewers of Durham City running freely. If I remember correctly your Leslie Welch once stopped at my Leslie Welsh's B&B. My LW had many strings to his bow including a fine memory.

That's the fella. Used to see one regularly when I was a nipper.

I'm no Keith Floyd. (Like all good chefs he never used an axe but he was proud of his knives).

Not in my head. I'll be passing on this version. Now if they had done the industrialised job with platforms front and rear, I might have been tempted. In the meantime I'll be chopping up a Janus.

Eg OPC postcard no 82. 02003 at Allerton by Knox Family, on Flickr

Not as simple as it looks. 1.5 mm stub axles and combined bearing/pick up assemblies sees to that. Dunno if Branchlines does any wheels-sets that's suitable? A lot of brass & iron has been turned into swarf so far.

P4 next then?

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, and etc., springs to mind.

A couple of them were used in parcels traffic and still carrying their prominent "Anglo Scottish Car Carrier" branding on some of the lesser known Co. Durham branches until the end of stream. As well as the ECML, I've seen phots of them in all regions on parcels duty e.g. https://flic.kr/p/daAeYK I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the livery error on the Newton Chambers Maroon version. I'm making the assumption (dangerous, I know) the livery is meant to be Ex-works. P