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OMG it's made out of plastic when the real is made out of metal

That is until you realise that the thread has failed on the cab inserts and the front droops down and the additional brake parts catch the buffer beam on curves. The Bachmann class 47 is a nice loco but horribly designed regarding the body fitment. Lima got it spot on with the buffers holding the chassis and body together.

It doesn't look too bad, not perfect I agree but I'm so glad it is weathered as I have it on preorder from Rails and £110 inc postage is a really decent price.

I am hoping for a Scottish 47/4 in large logo with highland stags or west highland terriers from around 1985/6. I don't know why Bachmann are so reluctant to release a Scottish 47/4 when they release Scottish 37/4s seemingly every year.

Forgot to say that the railway journey from Wroclaw to Kudowa Zdroj is a fantastic journey climbing into the mountains on the czech border. Not much there when you get there though! It was deep with snow when I visited in January last year.

Diesel hauled services summer 2018 courtesy of Polish Rail Gen on yahoo groups IC SU160 Diagrams (Not official!) Lublin Valid from 23.06.2018 Plan A Day 1 TLK28103 Lublin - Lukow 05.23 – 06.39 1-7 TLK82173 Lukow – Lublin 07.37 – 08.53 1-7 TLK28105 Lublin - Lukow 11.03 – 12.04 1-7 TLK82105 Lukow – Lublin 15.38 – 17.22 1-7 TLK28173 Lublin - Lukow 18.55 – 20.13 1-7 TLK82103 Lukow – Lublin 21.31 – 22.46 1-7 Day 2 TLK21100 Lublin - Lukow 07.26 – 08.51 1-7 TLK52100 Lukow – Lublin 09.30 – 10.52 1-7 TLK25102 Lublin - Lukow 12.11 – 13.27 1-7 TLK52103 Lukow – Lublin 13.50 – 15.05 1-7 TLK25101 Lublin - Lukow 16.45 – 18.27 1-5 TLK25101 Lublin - Lukow 16.48 – 18.27 6-7 TLK12101 Lukow – Lublin 19.39 – 21.06 1-7 Day 3 TLK28101 Lublin - Lukow 08.57 – 10.21 1-7 TLK21110 Lublin - Lukow 17.25 – 18.57 1-5 TLK12103 Lukow – Lublin 11.28 – 12.55 5, 6 TLK21103 Lublin - Lukow 15.08 – 16.29 5, 7 TLK82101 Lukow – Lublin 17.35 – 18.55 1-7 TLK28170 Lublin - Lukow 21.11 – 22.38 1-7 TLK82170 Lukow – Lublin 04.49 – 06.11 1-7 Plan B Day 1 IC23104 Hrubisow Miasto - Rzeszow 05.52 – 09.54 1-7 IC32104 Rzeszow - Hrubisow Miasto 19.08 – 23.17 1-7 IC SU160/CD754? Diagrams (Not official!) Bialystok Valid from 23.06.2018 Day 1 TLK18104 Bialystok - Olsztyn 05.28 – 09.19 1-7 TLK53100 Olsztyn - Elk 11.18 – 13.40 1-7 TLK35101 Elk - Olsztyn 15.15 – 17.32 1-7 TLK81104 Olsztyn - Bialystok 19.24 – 22.58 1-7 ? Day 2 TLK81170 Olsztyn - Elk 05.14 – 08.03 1-7 TLK16105 Elk - Olsztyn 10.50 – 13.07 1-7 TLK61105 Olsztyn - Elk 15.28 – 17.52 1-7 TLK18170 Elk - Olsztyn 21.56 – 00.15 1-7 Day 3 TLK18152 Suwalki - Bialystok 06.24 – 08.13 1-7 TLK31107 Bialystok - Suwalki 10.34 – 12.22 1-7 TLK13106 Suwalki - Bialystok 15.42 – 17.29 1-7 TLK81153 Bialystok - Suwalki 20.17 – 22.04 1-7 IC Standard SM42 Diagrams (Not official!) Gdynia Valid from 23.06.2018 Days 1 TLK45070 Gdynia - Leba 08.22 – 10.39 1-7 (Lebork 09.39 to 09.53 ) TLK55164 Leba - Lebork 10.57 – 11.49 1-7 TLK50161 Lebork - Leba 20.17 – 21.03 1-7 TLK56190 Leba - Lebork 21.28 – 22.14 1-7 Days 2 TLK65190 Lebork - Leba 06.59 – 07.45 1-7 TLK55160 Leba - Lebork 08.15 – 09.08 1-7 TLK15151 Lebork - Leba 13.05 – 14.03 1-7 TLK51150 Leba - Lebork 14.33 – 15.27 1-7 TLK50165 Lebork - Leba 18.26 – 19.19 1-7 TLK54070 Leba – Gdynia 20.19 – 22.12 1-7 (Lebork 21.12 to 21.13) IC SU42-1000 Diagrams (Not official!) Gdynia Valid from 23.06.2018 Days 1-4 TLK50175 Gdynia - Hel 05.08 – 06.44 1-7 TLK50157 Gdynia - Hel 07.22 – 09.08 1-7 TLK50171 Gdynia - Hel 07.57 – 09.47 1-7 TLK50173 Gdynia - Hel 08.35 – 10.28 1-7 TLK50155 Gdynia - Hel 12.55 – 15.22 1-7 TLK50159 Gdynia - Hel 19.53 – 21.31 1-7 TLK50159 Gdynia - Hel 20.34 – 22.28 1-7 TLK55156 Hel - Gdynia 07.08 – 08.48 1-7 TLK55154 Hel - Gdynia 13.00 – 14.51 1-7 TLK55170 Hel - Gdynia 19.02 – 21.06 1-7 TLK55172 Hel - Gdynia 19.50 – 21.44 1-7 TLK55180 Hel - Gdynia 20.15 – 22.07 1-7 TLK55158 Hel - Gdynia 20.56 – 22.40 1-7 IC CD754? Diagrams (Not official!) Gdynia Valid from 23.06.2018 Day 1 EIC1541 Gdynia - Hel 11.03 – 12.58 1-7 EIC5140 Hel - Gdynia 14.44 – 16.47 1-7 REG SU42 Diagrams (Not official!) Gdynia Valid from 23.06.2018 to 01.09.2018 Day 1 55265 Chojnice - Hel 07.10 – 12.25 1-7 (Gdynia 10.30 – 10.32) 90544 Hel - Gdynia 13.40 – 15.33 1-7 90521 Gdynia - Hel 16.52 – 18.45 1-7 90556 Hel - Gdynia 19.25 – 21.27 1-7 Day 2 90513 Gdynia - Hel 11.28 – 13.38 1-7 55256 Hel - Chojnice 14.12 – 19.41 1-7 (Gdynia 16.13 – 16.33) IC SM42 Diagrams (Not official!) Szczecin/Gdynia Valid from 23.06.2018 Day 1 TLK80195 Szczecin Gl - Kolobrzeg 02.27 – 05.07 1-7 TLK18170 Kolobrzeg – Szczecin Gl 07.01 – 09.48 1-7 TLK81170 Szczecin Gl - Kolobrzeg 19.33 – 22.07 1-7 TLK88195 Kolobrzeg – Szczecin Gl 23.10 – 01.40 1-7 IC CD754/SU42-1000 Diagrams (Not official!) Gdynia Valid from 23.06.2018 Plan A - Day 1 (SU160) TLK80173 Krzyz – S trzelce Krajenskie Wsch 04.42 – 05.07 1-7 IC85103 Strzelce Krajenskie Wsch – Pila Gl. 06.38 – 07.59 1-7 IC84102 Pila Gl. – Krzyz 08.52 – 09.41 1-7 IC78103 Krzyz – S trzelce Krajenskie Wsch 13.14 – 13.38 1-7 TLK87102 Strzelce Krajenskie Wsch - Krzyz 15.44 – 16.09 1-7 IC48103 Krzyz - Pila Gl. 19.40 – 20.26 1-7 IC58109 Pila Gl. – Krzyz 20.54 – 21.38 1-7 Plan B - Day 1 (SU42-1000) TLK58110 Gdynia - Pila Gl. 11.48 – 15.34 1-7 TLK28101 Pila Gl - Szczecin Gl. 18.00 – 21.14 1-7 Day 2 TLK81100 Szczecin Gl. – Pila Gl. 07.02 – 10.15 1-7 TLK85110 Pila Gl. - Gdynia 17.20 – 21.18 1-7 IC SU42 Diagrams (Not official!) Wroclaw Valid from 23.06.2018 Day 1 TLK60173 Wroclaw Gl. – Kudowa Zdroj 05.53 – 09.41 6-7 TLK66150 Kudowa Zdroj - Wroclaw Gl. 12.22 – 15.15 6-7 Day 2 TLK60151 Wroclaw – Kudowa Zdroj 12.50 – 16.26 6-7 TLK66172 Kudowa Zdroj - Wroclaw 19.02 – 22.04 6-7 REG SU42 Diagrams (Not official!) Zielona Gora Valid from 23.06.2018 Day 1 88214 Kostrzyn – Gorzów Wielkopolski 08.42 – 09.31 1-7 88571 Gorzów Wielkopolski – Kostrzyn 11.53 – 12.41 1-7 88232 Kostrzyn – Gorzów Wielkopolski 13.32 – 14.21 1-7 88237 Gorzów Wielkopolski – Kostrzyn 16.15 – 17.00 1-7 Day 2 88217 Gorzów Wielkopolski – Kostrzyn 09.59 – 10.47 1-7 88218 Kostrzyn – Gorzów Wielkopolski 10.42 – 11.31 1-7 88573 Gorzów Wielkopolski – Kostrzyn 14.46 – 15.31 1-7 88436 Kostrzyn – Gorzów Wielkopolski 15.00 – 15.49 1-7 88255 Gorzów Wielkopolski – Kostrzyn 17.04 – 17.49 1-7 88256 Kostrzyn – Gorzów Wielkopolski 18.06 – 18.55 1-7 Day 3 88238 Kostrzyn – Gorzów Wielkopolski 15.51 – 16.40 1-7 88259 Gorzów Wielkopolski – Kostrzyn 19.13 – 19.58 1-7 88204 Kostrzyn – Gorzów Wielkopolski 05.06 – 05.55 1-7 88206 Kostrzyn – Gorzów Wielkopolski 06.35 – 07.24 1-7 88260 Kostrzyn – Gorzów Wielkopolski 21.00 – 21.49 1-7 88209 Gorzów Wielkopolski – Kostrzyn 06.27 – 07.08 1-7 88211 Gorzów Wielkopolski – Kostrzyn 07.39 – 08.27 1-7 88575 Gorzów Wielkopolski – Kostrzyn 21.34 – 22.16 1-7 88409 Gorzów Wielkopolski – Kostrzyn 20.49 – 21.26 5

looks like the model I sold on ebay a couple of years ago

47703 i believe and maybe a Harry Needle loco.

We should all be trying to cut down on plastic waste and magazines being bagged really shouldn't be happening anymore, same as bananas in the supermarket in plastic bags WTF

Hi, I have received my 47712 this morning, on removing the loco and placing on a flat surface it didn't sit correctly and had a distinct wobble with three wheels on each bogie about 1mm off the ground. I have loosened the bogie screws but it still sits on the wobble, this is the first Bachmann 47 I have owned that does this. Very bizarre. I'm not chuffed at all so will be in contact with seller about returning it.

As far as am aware 47712 did not receive a westie and retained the Haymarket castle well into 1990 and possibly NSE days. It did get the aerial sometime in 1988 though.

Not sure 47714 and 47701 share the same tooling

Sorry, when I said heavier numbers I meant thicker printing, they are still small numbers and the same livery as the prototype.

This had me confused but the new weathered version has heavier numbers and the black surrounding the marker lights is also heavier which is consistent with other 47 releases. The lower mushroom colour looks lighter despite the weathering. It can't be too many days until these are released so not long to wait hopefully.

On page 158 of the February issue of Railway Modeller there is a photo of 47832 Tamar in it's attractive executive livery, It looks like it is the production model but I was surprised to see that it appears to be lightly weathered. I think it looks really nice and maybe I will buy 2 and convert one to 47527 Kettering with a chassis swap with my 47436. (which may become 47818). The roof weathering would help to disguise the boiler port conversion so I hope it is the production model.

An alternative to 47599 is 47594, I have 3 47359 models that I have renumbered, 47594, 47063 in construction and 47279 rfd. 47594 has had an etched boiler port fitted but possibly needs a little more weathering on the roof.

The boiler tanks do just clip in but the issue is that the cab/tail light switches will then not line up. The switches need unscrewing, turning 180 degrees ( if I remember rightly) and placing on the alternative and slightly higher side. Then the wires are not long enough so they need rerouting through the chassis which is a real pain.

47359 has an incorrect roof and doesn't have boiler tanks so not that simple

If I remember rightly the first batch of 47s had a lot of class 57 parts including tanks and bogies and they wobbled whilst running. When 47474, 535 and 612 were released the errors had been corrected.

Just to complicate matters further the 47710 model has incorrect twin tanks, well slightly incorrect to be fair, these are the later design for 47821 onwards and 47721 onwards (discounting the original 47650-665 batch that became res 47/7s later in life). Heljan got the 47/7 tanks on their scotrail 47 spot on.

I have just dug out my old "moves" book from 1988 and 47583 appears to have been on at least the following trains. 18-04-88 1352 Carlisle-Glasgow central 19-04-88 1013 Glasgow-Carlisle, 1430 Carlisle-Stranraer and 2240 Stranraer-Carlisle. 20-04-88 0424 Carlisle-Glasgow, 0823 Glasgow-Stranraer, 1425 Stranraer-Glasgow and 2153 Glasgow-Stranraer 21-04-88 0700 Stranraer-Glasgow 23-04-88 1237 Carlisle-Leeds and 1625 return.

I had 47583 to Stranraer during April 1988, it stayed around for a few days taking in Glasgow, Carlisle and Leeds. Pictured at Stranraer with the 1826 arrival from Euston.

This is my 47518 with the different sized numbers and large gap between the 47 and 518, very pleased with the transfers and I have also replaced the Bachmann spanner boiler with the Shawplan etch. Also pictured is my 47480 Robin Hood with Railtec dry transfers which are a little slimmer but a good match for 47480's slim numbers. I have since renumbered it to 97480 with a little weathering.

Very excited by this news, many large logo 47s had slightly different number sizes randomly applied, will you do the curvy 7 numbers as applied by Glasgow Works during 1988/9?

Beneath the various types of 47 tanks Bachmann have craftily designed two pairs of switch holders, one pair raised for the boiler tanks and the other pair slightly lowered for the battery boxes, they are then wired up accordingly. If you look at the underneath of a boiler and battery tank 47 and compare you will notice the switches don't line up. You can swap tanks if you are prepared to unclip the wires from the pcb and change things around a bit, very fiddly but doable. The 47/7 tanks are a direct replacement for the boiler ones without rewiring I believe.