kevinlms

But it is a theory, something has happened at the factory and presumably Dapol, won't be dealing with them any more. Probably they don't care anyway. Plently of other western companies wanting plastic goods made at a cheap price. Later they will find out like Dapol, that there is a sting in the tail - expect your trading name to be undermined.

Where did I say that your theory is wrong? I asked how did you know that they were from the same production line? I've previously suggested that if extra models are made, the quality is likely to drop. Fact is we don't know for sure and endless speculation is the result. Remember, you claimed it was all excess production, not me.

I did read what he said and the two of you are making assumptions, about how these fakes were made. Just making it up as you go along! Unless you have specific knowledge.

So absolutely, you are making the claim that these 'fakes' are as good or the same as the real ones supplied officially via Dapol. So I ask again, how do you KNOW this is true, or are you making up what you want to believe to be true? Fakes come in all 'standards' for want of a better term, from indistinguishable to most people, to absolute crap. One thing for sure, any warranty won't be honoured by the real business behind genuine products.

You try and tell the young people that today, and they won't believe you...

Seems that the fake remorse helped her case, despite the prosecution stating:- The prosecution questioned the extent of Sturgess's remorse, saying despite her guilty plea, she had consistently denied or minimised the effect of the mobile phone use in the crash. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-10/driver-abby-sturgess-jailed-killing-cyclist-while-on-mobile/103689718

Yet increasingly many retailers ask if you want a receipt. Saying no, often doesn't save any paper, because the machine spits one out anyway and so they chuck it in the rubbish! "Prove of purchase" can include a credit card extract of a statement. But I was thinking that often, the quality of the finished product isn't the same, because of issues with the mould or the finishing. To someone familiar with an item, can usually tell straight away, if not genuine or substandard parts used. Admittedly, Dapol haven't made any specific details available, but as others have suggested, it would be most unwise to highlight exactly what the issues is/are.

Selling an item with a genuine 'UK made' label - meaning that the label is made in the UK!

How do you know that Dapol can't tell the difference between of their products and a 'fake' one?

I don't want genuine ones either! 😇

But it has nothing to do with 'Tri-ang' or 'Hornby'. Just an example of someone using a well known brand in the UK, to enable it to be seen more widely. Doesn't fool most modellers with a little experience.

What an LMS 3180 looks like. Well, it does has 6 driving wheels! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/276146612458

Chinese English, for when the smoke escapes, it's f****d!

Except the water will never get hot! Maybe it will be enough to melt ice, which IIRC, was the point of the experiment.

Maybe you will, maybe not. Both items are currently unavailable. At least to me in Australia!

Don't know, but they have a significant weed problem.

How much 'Fergie Time' will they need and get at home to Liverpool?

Waiting for the wheels to fall off, isn't 'dodgy wheels' then? Oh, I see! (not really)!

But you have absolutely no guarantee of that. Lets say a manufacturer pays for a tool to make a genuine product and is designed to make X numbers of items, before the tool is retired and a new tool used. What happens if the old tool continues to be make items illegally, but gradually the tooling is breaking down and the items are not as crisp. So it's quite possible to have extra shifts using genuine tooling, but a lesser quality product is the outcome. Should you expect the business whose logo, still appears on the item, to be responsible in case of defects?

The UK is almost unique in having fuses. The reason is because only the UK appears to have a Ring Main, which would not be legal in most countries. The fuse is there to protect the mains CABLE, not the user. https://www.morvantrading.co.uk/why-are-uk-plugs-fused/

The only time they might be bothered is if they were expecting something of value, perhaps scrap copper and having someone steal it, before they got a chance to sell it to a recycler.

If it works, why not? That's the criteria surely.

Everyone has woken up to Ten Hag's system. If you drag the match out until a lot of extra time is needed, then they will collapse in a heap!

Exactly so. I've got a club with I think about 160 items to do, which has many more items added since last time I did it. The hardest part is tracking down all the items, because they are spread amongst 9 buildings/sheds and the items often get swapped from one location to another. Sometimes items disappear for a test one year, then reappear next time or the time after - which of course means someone took them off site and brought them back, but I still wasted time looking for them! Best done with 2, me testing and an assistant entering the details on a laptop and preparing labels. Both of us hunting for items. I can think of better ways to amuse myself! Yet at the same time, many members think it's BS. Judging by the way our public liability insurance is going up, the club should be thankful, I'm doing the testing for the cost of the labels! A professional tester only bloke I met, told me about a primary school with hundreds of items. The principal came up to him on the 3rd morning and asked why he was taking so long. Apparently the previous guy having done it for 2 or 3 years, just changed the labels and took him 1 day each time!

22 hours since I posted my message. So keep going for the record!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!