Andrew P Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Back in the 70s, I had a Hornby Princess Elizabeth which had a piece of brass on one of the tender axles which scraped on a sheet of sandpaper to make a chuffing noise... It sounded just like that... Now it takes a 100 quid's worth of electronics to produce the same noise... Progress, hey? Al. Your right Al, I'll stick it on a Slow Freight later and Video it again, the difference is remarkable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 My dad had a model of Oliver Cromwell with the same brass chuffing sound. It had a smoke generator too 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Hi Andy, I loved the Castle video but I'm no expert on what they really sound like. But at least the "chuffs" seemed to be in sync with the valve gear which I have heard is sometimes a problem with DCC sound locos. Regards, Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 My dad had a model of Oliver Cromwell with the same brass chuffing sound. It had a smoke generator too Two steps forward and THREE BACK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Hi Andy, I loved the Castle video but I'm no expert on what they really sound like. But at least the "chuffs" seemed to be in sync with the valve gear which I have heard is sometimes a problem with DCC sound locos. Regards, Brian. Your right Brian, and TBH I'm still not 100% sure about this one, I'm downloading another short Video it in the Yard and on the Slow Goods. Diesels are definitely a more realistic sound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Whilst waiting for the New Video to Download, I've modified and fitted the Ratio Distant Signal, removing the Spectacle Plate and fixing the Arm to the Post, thanks to the ever helpful Mike, The Stationmaster. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 I've also re done the Trees that were the WRONG GREEN. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) And at last, another short Video of Clun Castle. AND I MESSED UP THE SUB TITLES. Sorry if this offends anyone, but I still don't think the Steam Sounds are as good as the Diesels. Edited August 10, 2017 by Andrew P 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustered Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Very nice Andy, Which sound chip do you use? Best wishes Nige Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted August 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2017 To me there are only 4 exhaust beats per revolution when it's a four cylinder engine so that should make 8 beats, should it not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Very nice Andy, Which sound chip do you use? Best wishes Nige It's the Hornby Factory Sound Nige, so I would guess it's an ESU one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 To me there are only 4 exhaust beats per revolution when it's a four cylinder engine so that should make 8 beats, should it not? Not a clue Jonathan, I know about Car Engines, but that'e as far as it goes, this is all new stuff to me a far as Beats etc go. I hope someone can explain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted August 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2017 Sorry if this offends anyone, but I still don't think the Steam Sounds are as good as the Diesels. I'm afraid I agree with you in this case. I find that very uninspiring - nothing like as good as your little 4F for instance. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted August 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) To me there are only 4 exhaust beats per revolution when it's a four cylinder engine so that should make 8 beats, should it not? I don't think so Jonathan, each cylinder should exhaust once for each full revolution, shouldn't it? Each cylinder will be set on the crank a quarter turn apart. Al. Edited August 10, 2017 by acg_mr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted August 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2017 Hi Andy, Castles have 4 cylinders, 2 outside the frames, 2 inside the frames. Each will exhaust once from the front half and once from the rear half of each cylinder per wheel revolution, making 8 exhaust beats (or chuffs) per revolution. Changing the CVs will alter how many chuffs there are per revolution but on ESU ones I have forgotten which it is (57 or 58?) and my handbook is at my other home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted August 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2017 I don't think so Jonathan, each cylinder should exhaust once for each full revolution, shouldn't it? Each cylinder will be set on the crank a quarter turn apart. Al. Steam engines have double acting cylinders. Steam enters each side of the piston alternately. A member has Walschaert's valve gear demo as his avatar but I cannot remember who. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted August 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) Have a look at this Pink is live steam, blue exhaust. Edited August 10, 2017 by Rowsley17D 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 I'm afraid I agree with you in this case. I find that very uninspiring - nothing like as good as your little 4F for instance. Al. Yes Al, I have to say my Howes Sound BR Std's, (4, 5, 8,and 9) the Black 5's and Bulleids are a much better Sound, now tomorrow I will try and do a run with my Bachmann Patriot, again it's a Factory Sound job, so it will be interesting to gauge reaction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted August 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2017 Have a look at this rodsmed.gif Pink is live steam, blue exhaust. Ah yes, thanks. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Have a look at this rodsmed.gif Pink is live steam, blue exhaust. Thanks for that Jonathan, very informative indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted August 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2017 Patriots are 3 cylinder engines so that's 6 exhaust beats per wheel revolution. I did some Googling on ESU CVs, Andy (they cannot touch you for it, as Ken Dodd says) You need a rolling road really. Set loco going on speed step 1 (of 128) and change CV 57 until there are 8 chuffs per one wheel revolution, the lower the number the higher the number of chuffs. Then increase speed to about 10 and change CV 58 so that there are 8 chuffs per wheel revolution. Hope you can count fast!!. If all else fails you can always do a reset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Patriots are 3 cylinder engines so that's 6 exhaust beats per wheel revolution. I did some Googling on ESU CVs, Andy (they cannot touch you for it, as Ken Dodd says) You need a rolling road really. Set loco going on speed step 1 (of 128) and change CV 57 until there are 8 chuffs per one wheel revolution, the lower the number the higher the number of chuffs. Then increase speed to about 10 and change CV 58 so that there are 8 chuffs per wheel revolution. Hope you can count fast!!. If all else fails you can always do a reset. That's me done then, I can only count to 5. I'll have a look at that, Cheers Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I've also re done the Trees that were the WRONG GREEN. Clun Castle on Goods and in Yard 010.JPG Clun Castle on Goods and in Yard 011.JPG Clun Castle on Goods and in Yard 012.JPG Clun Castle on Goods and in Yard 013.JPG Nice work here Andrew.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Nice work here Andrew.. Thanks very much, I hope to Video the Patriot today for Steam Sound comparison, then it's back to Diesel Traction. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Is anyone going to the Milton Keynes Show tomorrow? I've never been to this one before and so I'm hoping it'll be a good one, there's a good selection of Layouts, and as far as I can see, there are none there that I've seen before. There's also some good Traders attending. It seem's strange that it's not in the Exhibition Diary on here though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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