Moderators AY Mod Posted January 9, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 9, 2023 LMS 'Salmon' Bogie Wagon - Era 3 R60202 Availability OCT 2023 RRP £38.49 BR YMO 'Salmon' Bogie Wagon R60203 BR, YMO 'Salmon' Bogie Wagon - Era 6 R60204 BR, YMO 'Salmon' Bogie Wagon - Era 7 R60205 BR, YMO 'Salmon' Bogie Bolster Wagon - Era 7 R60206 BR, YMA 'Salmon' Bogie Wagon - Era 8 Availability OCT 2023 RRP £38.49 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Shame to duplicate the Footplate model which will now have to compete on a lower price. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Their entry into HO by any chance? 😜 Seriously, a great announcement - featuring both LMS bogies and the plate type. Another essential* gap filled, saving up eagerly, I may even have to forego that EOI for those KR 40s. * essential not being defined as any rational person would. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 33 minutes ago, 'CHARD said: Their entry into HO by any chance? 😜 Do you mean Footplate or Hornby? Footplate released the correct length versions last year and they are very nice models. You can still buy their first batch “shorty” versions for a discounted price should accuracy not be essential. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
virginhst539 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 53 minutes ago, black and decker boy said: Shame to duplicate the Footplate model which will now have to compete on a lower price. Yes but flangeway are doing the modern airbraked varients of these with ASF bogies which Hornby have missed in this run which im sure will be popular. No doubt these will appear in the Hornby range at somepoint as well 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, black and decker boy said: Do you mean Footplate or Hornby? Hornby; it was tongue-in-cheek as you noted! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2023 They seem to have avoided the transition era. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, virginhst539 said: Yes but flangeway are doing the modern airbraked varients of these with ASF bogies which Hornby have missed in this run which im sure will be popular. No doubt these will appear in the Hornby range at somepoint as well The Footplate version on sale is transition era, black, olive green & yellow fitted with 5ft plate bogies. These remain in stock. They have announced a batch of updated versions with the ASF bogies due this year some time. It’s possible Hornby are doing the 8ft plate bogies rather than 5ft plate bogies?? The Era 3 wagon is shown with LMS bogies so at least that is different. Edited January 10, 2023 by black and decker boy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium E100 Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2023 From what I can gather these are pretty high spec with a fair bit of diecast to them to give them well needed weight. Bit of a shame that it's a duplicate but they are so widespread I'm sure both will sell sufficiently well and £50 felt a tad steep for the flangeway ones. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Downer said: They seem to have avoided the transition era. Not according to their own definition of Eras: 'ERA 6 (British Rail Pre-TOPS) 1957-1971' (source, https://uk.Hornby.com/catalogue/era ) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, 'CHARD said: Not according to their own definition of Eras: 'ERA 6 (British Rail Pre-TOPS) 1957-1971' (source, https://uk.Hornby.com/catalogue/era ) Defined it wrongly, didn’t they? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Downer said: Defined it wrongly, didn’t they? Well, they define Era 7 as 1968 - 1971 or some such, and that would do for me (1967-68)! Their definitions do demonstrate overlap, but I can see why - it's an inexact science. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HExpressD Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I think eras are a general guide for people who perhaps aren't as clued up as most of us but still want some roughly matching stuff for their layout. I don't need era flashes to tell me that the streamlined B17s didn't run at the same time as/with MK3 coaches but others may want that guidance. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 The new r 2023 section on the Hornby website seems to have the photos for these and the bogie bolsters mixed up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Foden Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2023 10 hours ago, black and decker boy said: It’s possible Hornby are doing the 8ft plate bogies rather than 5ft plate bogies?? Comparing the CAD above to the size of the bogies on my Flangeway Salmons, it certainly appears to be the 8ft bogies Hornby are modelling, which adds some nice variety. No complaints from me, I'd like a couple more anyway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Grovenor said: The new r 2023 section on the Hornby website seems to have the photos for these and the bogie bolsters mixed up. Sam's Trains failed to spot this and commentated about how good the value of the Salmon was, having mistaken it for the Bogie Bolster, price included. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 55 minutes ago, 'CHARD said: Sam's Trains failed to spot this and commentated about how good the value of the Salmon was, having mistaken it for the Bogie Bolster, price included. No surprise there then? Mike. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: No surprise there then? It made me chuckle, confirmation of his declared ignorance of prototype detail! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribird Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 For uninformed, what would these wagons be used for? Just rails (and rakes of welded rails?) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ribird said: For uninformed, what would these wagons be used for? Just rails (and rakes of welded rails?) Mainly track panels for transportation to work sites. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo009 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 The only must have for me in this years announcement, to replace the old Triang one on my repair train. By the time it turns up I should have enough points to get it for nothing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thohurst Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Glad to see this one released, particularly at a lower point than flangeway's offering. Unfortunately as an overseas customer, Flangeway aren't GST registered and as such are rather expensive for those outside of the UK. Very nice to see earlier designs too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aire Head Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Ribird said: For uninformed, what would these wagons be used for? Just rails (and rakes of welded rails?) Originally for carrying 60' rails which was the standard at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 11, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2023 10 hours ago, Ribird said: For uninformed, what would these wagons be used for? Just rails (and rakes of welded rails?) 10 hours ago, Dungrange said: Mainly track panels for transportation to work sites. 2 hours ago, Aire Head said: Originally for carrying 60' rails which was the standard at the time. Whilst originally and primarily for track, there are pictures about showing them carrying things like girder bridge/platform type panels and other long lengths of various metalwork, ( as similarly there are of other rail wagons so doing, sturgeons for example). Mike. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Renders now in Hornby news https://uk.Hornby.com/community/blog-and-news/engine-shed/streamlined-salmon-wagon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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