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Rising from slumber

Posted by Mikkel , in The Sidings, Videos, Construction 14 June 2016 · 979 views

Farthing GWR Track

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After a quiet spring things are moving again on Farthing. The Slipper Boy story is featured in the June 2016 BRM, which seems a good way to mark the end of work on this layout. Many thanks to BRM for featuring the story. It’s all just a bit of fun of course, but while studying the court case that inspired the story, it did occur to me just how much scope there is for modelling particular historical incidents on the railways.

 

 

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Meanwhile there has been progress on “The sidings”, my third layout in the Farthing series. Track and groundcover is now in place and trains are running. It hasn’t been without birth pains though. The layout was on the backburner for quite a while and I was losing interest, so I decided to do three things:

 

 

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First, I adjusted the design to balance the layout better and “open up” the views. This involved widening the baseboard and moving the fiddle yard off the main baseboard. The trackplan remains mostly the same though, following the original inspiration from the backwaters of Gloucester Old Yard. This includes the very short headshunt and the two sidings with loading facilities that were hired out to private companies. I’ve played around with the latter and added a bit of, ahem, local lore - more on that in another post.

 

 

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Secondly, I scrapped the idea of using gravity shunting. Despite some success with initial experiments, it was becoming a major project in itself and was bogging down progress. I appreciate all the ideas offered though, maybe another time. There is still shunting to be had, thanks to the short headshunt and the exchange of wagons between two locos, as was also done at Gloucester.

 

 

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Thirdly, I cut a corner and decided to have the two points built professionally. This hurt my pride a bit, but I wanted to move on and so John Jones (aka “Hayfield") of this parish built me a couple of nice 00-SF (aka 4-SF) points at a very reasonable price.

 

 

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With momentum duly restored I set about building the plain track. Sleepers were cut using my old paper cutter…

 

 

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…and stuck onto templates of GWR 44 ft track lengths. I tried to copy the GWR’s sleeper spacing at the rail joins.

 

 

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According to Stephen Williams, the GWR employed two different ways of laying sleepers at the end of points, the “interlaced” pattern being more common. So I did that.

 

 

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For the groundcover, I used the latest supersmooth, superlight, supertasty Polyfilla formula. This was built up in layers and sanded down in-between. The groundcover was taken up to the sleeper tops, as per many photos of GWR yards in the 1900s. I’m considering raising it even further in some places, eg just over the sleeper tops like here: http://www.warwicksh...r/gwrhd692b.htm, or even higher like here: http://www.warwicksh.../gwrbsh1195.htm

 

 

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For point operation I’ve used Cobalt IP Analogs. Definitely over the top for a glorified shunting plank, but I wanted to see what slow action motors are like. They work well enough, although I find them a bit noisy – no doubt amplified by the foamboard.

 

 

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The next step is to add a few final details to the track, clean up the sleepers and paint the rails, and then I'll finally be able to start work on the buildings and structures, something I look forward to.

 

 

 

Finally here's a short video clip proving that the beast is alive – warts and all. I still need to tweak things a bit, but I’m quite happy with the way my wagons (built to very simple standards) and the RTR chassis move through John's 00-SF points.

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Looking forward to more progress mikkel...:)

Good to see you posting again Mikkel. I've missed your blog updates!

Looking forward to seeing more

Great to see movement at Farthing!  Even at this early stage, there is 'atmosphere' in your photos and the trackwork looks superb.  The grain in the sleepers is impressive - exactly what material have you used?

 

I'm hoping to take inspiration from your start, since my own plans have been stuck on the backburner for a while.  I realise it's over 30 years since I last made a start from scratch and there's a lot of 'stiction' to overcome ;)

Nice progress Mikkel - and congratulations on the 'BRM' entry.  Your fame is spreading wider and well-deserved!

 

Regards

 

Ian

About time too ! What you been playing at keeping us all waiting ? All joking apart, it's good to see you back with some fresh ideas. I think you've done the right thing to be honest, in ditching the gravity shunting, it would probably have held your proposals back. Now you seem to have got that "mojo" back ( I think we've all been there at some point ) this looks likely to be another of your excellent projects. I don't think there's a loss of pride regarding the turnouts either, that's what we're all here for ( I hope so anyway ) to help each other in some small way. Do it at your leisure and enjoy what you're doing and I'm sure once it is completed it'll be another small masterpiece. Still following ! :) Grahame
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nick_bastable
Jun 14 2016 22:07

just love your work and prose

Delighted to see your progress and can't wait to see those buildings! :-)

Very nice work Mikkel

Morning Mikkel. This is very nice. Looking forward to seeing this develop as it is very much my cup of morning tea. Rob.
Hi Mikkel, Well done on the article - richly deserved! I look forward to further updates on the sidings too. All the best, Castle

Looking forward to more progress mikkel... :)

 
Hi Dave, so do I...  :)  I've got most of the material I need for that "biscuit shed", so hope to get started on that this week. 
 
 

Good to see you posting again Mikkel. I've missed your blog updates!
Looking forward to seeing more

 
Thanks Andrew. I was just looking at your timber platform for Clevedon the other day, as I'm thinking of having a short platform for one of the sidings. Something a bit like this: http://i1.birmingham...ay-system-1.jpg or this: http://warwickshirer...r/gwrms1733.htm

 

 

Great to see movement at Farthing!  Even at this early stage, there is 'atmosphere' in your photos and the trackwork looks superb.  The grain in the sleepers is impressive - exactly what material have you used?
 
I'm hoping to take inspiration from your start, since my own plans have been stuck on the backburner for a while.  I realise it's over 30 years since I last made a start from scratch and there's a lot of 'stiction' to overcome ;)

 
Hi Mike, the sleepers are plywood strips from C+L. You can them pre-cut but I cut them myself as I use a 31.5 mm length which I find gives a good proprotional appearance of 9' timbers with 16.5 mm gauge (thanks Nick, if you're still around).

 

Ah yes that stiction, very annoying! :-)

Nice progress Mikkel - and congratulations on the 'BRM' entry.  Your fame is spreading wider and well-deserved!

 

Regards

 

Ian

 

Thanks Ian, our blogs here tend to live their own quiet life, so it was nice (and strange!) to see Farthing in a mag. I really appreciate that BRM took it on, I'm sure there are those who don't see it as  "proper" model railways.

 

 

About time too ! What you been playing at keeping us all waiting ? All joking apart, it's good to see you back with some fresh ideas. I think you've done the right thing to be honest, in ditching the gravity shunting, it would probably have held your proposals back. Now you seem to have got that "mojo" back ( I think we've all been there at some point ) this looks likely to be another of your excellent projects. I don't think there's a loss of pride regarding the turnouts either, that's what we're all here for ( I hope so anyway ) to help each other in some small way. Do it at your leisure and enjoy what you're doing and I'm sure once it is completed it'll be another small masterpiece. Still following ! :) Grahame

 

Thanks very much for encouragement Grahame, really appreciated! I realized that what I really wanted with this layout was to make a lot of buildings and goods stock, so that's what I'm focussing on now.

 

"Turnouts" you say - just when I had decided to stick with "points". is there not some compromise. "Turn-points?". "Point-outs"?  :)

 

 

just love your work and prose

 

Thanks Nick! I'm enjoying your experiments with the Darkly Labs laser. Those wagons and vans you are doing are brilliant, when will you be doing them in 4mm?   :D

Delighted to see your progress and can't wait to see those buildings! :-)

 

Hi Dave, I think I'll start off with a couple of straightforward ones to get into the flow. The most time consuming one will probably be the stable block, to be based on Uxbridge. I recently bought "Great Western horsepower" by Janet Russell which really fired the imagination.

 

 

Very nice work Mikkel

 

Thanks Les, I've been taken notes on those windows for your station building, as I may need to scratchbuild some for my buildings.

 

 

Morning Mikkel. This is very nice. Looking forward to seeing this develop as it is very much my cup of morning tea. Rob.

 

Hi Rob. OK, if you let me know what time you have your morning tea I'll make sure to time the next update with that  :D.  I'm hoping to get some low-down views of vans and wagons sitting in the sidings on this layout, similar to those very atmospheric shots you are posting!

 

 

Hi Mikkel, Well done on the article - richly deserved! I look forward to further updates on the sidings too. All the best, Castle

 

Hi Castle, thanks very much. I'm off to see what you've been up to on your thread.

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Job's Modelling
Jun 16 2016 06:07

It is good to see some progress on your layout. 

I like the changed layout plan. Looking forward to your background buildings.

As far as I know this shunting layout will also give you the possibility to use goods wagons from different companies.  

Hi Job,

 

I'm glad you like the plan. I like view blocks at the front, but they have to be carefully positioned. Before, the biscuit shed was more towards the center and it "closed off" the left part of the layout from viewing.

 

The background buildings will need some thinking. There is a risk that they become too much of a "flat" line-up. 

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Job's Modelling
Jun 16 2016 16:29

Hi Job,

 

I'm glad you like the plan. I like view blocks at the front, but they have to be carefully positioned. Before, the biscuit shed was more towards the center and it "closed off" the left part of the layout from viewing.

 

The background buildings will need some thinking. There is a risk that they become too much of a "flat" line-up. 

 

Maybe this drawing of Swindon works can give you some inspiration: http://www.fosrm.org.uk/list.htm 

I think you have enough space to make it look interesting. think about different in height, different roofs or roof textures, different type of windows etc.

There are also some nice pictures to find of the Swindon Works.

 

Thanks Andrew. I was just looking at your timber platform for Clevedon the other day, as I'm thinking of having a short platform for one of the sidings. Something a bit like this: http://i1.birmingham...ay-system-1.jpg or this: http://warwickshirer...r/gwrms1733.htm

Love the photographs. Those planks look about 3" so sleeper strip would be ideal!

Hi Job, thanks for that, although something has happened to the link (I think it's in a frame). Did you mean this one: http://www.fosrm.org...s/image002.jpg?

 

I would like to fit the buildings at the back into my overall plan of the station, which means they would be positioned in an area between sidings. So ideally they would be fairly small buildings used by the railway itself. There was a nice row of stores and offices at Gloucester for example, and another at Salisbury.

 

However, having small buildings at the back doesn't always look good, so I have also been thinking about having a low relief railway warehouse at the back of this layout, away from the siding, eg: http://www.warwicksh...r/gwrhd2624.htm. That would require me to adjust the overall plan of Farthing a bit though. Here is how it currently looks:

 

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Thanks Andrew. I was just looking at your timber platform for Clevedon the other day, as I'm thinking of having a short platform for one of the sidings. Something a bit like this: http://i1.birmingham...ay-system-1.jpg or this: http://warwickshirer...r/gwrms1733.htm

 

Love the photographs. Those planks look about 3" so sleeper strip would be ideal!

 

Yes, I was thinking about that. I've got the thin C+L ones though, may need to order some of the deeper ones. The plan is to feature a variety of timber structures to help achieve a slightly rustic and period look.

 

The Cadbury's photo is fantastic. See also: http://www.rmweb.co....urnville/page-1

I did not see the BRM article as my local Sainsbury's does not stock it, not sure why.  If I had seen it, it would have been the first mag I had bought in a while.  It is of course proper railway modelling, and it adds a depth to the actual models.

 

Glad to see you are back building again.  It looks good and there is a certain artistry about what you do which I have no idea about.  I look forward to seeing what you do. 

I am very impressed with the neat workmanship. It is looking very good. I thought for a minute you had borrowed a fireless loco from H&P however their's were smaller. I haven't seen BRM but pleased you have an article in it. I presume much of it has already appeared here. Looking forward to how it progresses. Nice to see you doing more.

Don 

I did not see the BRM article as my local Sainsbury's does not stock it, not sure why.  If I had seen it, it would have been the first mag I had bought in a while.  It is of course proper railway modelling, and it adds a depth to the actual models.

 

Glad to see you are back building again.  It looks good and there is a certain artistry about what you do which I have no idea about.  I look forward to seeing what you do. 

 

Thanks Chris, we have a common interest in adding a story to the figures. I'm a great fan of the station master and other characters on Traeth Mawr. I wonder if Andrew Stadden had any idea what he let loose in the world when he developed his Edwardian range :-)

 

I am very impressed with the neat workmanship. It is looking very good. I thought for a minute you had borrowed a fireless loco from H&P however their's were smaller. I haven't seen BRM but pleased you have an article in it. I presume much of it has already appeared here. Looking forward to how it progresses. Nice to see you doing more.

Don 

 

Hi Don, thanks, the BRM article have some of the shots done again as the originals were a little dark. The loco is just my 1854ST without the boiler fittings. I really must get on with painting it! I've found the right paint after much testing.

Mikkel

 

Very impressed with the workmanship, especially the ballasting of the turnouts points, lately I have grown fonder of the Exactoscale plastic timbers, especially when used in conjunction with plastic plain track. But I must say your hand built plain track on ply looks far superior to RTL plastic.

 

Its a great pity there are no GWR slide chairs and special chairs available, still cutting and shutting 2 bolts in conjunction with them is far better than having nothing

 

At the moment I am building a Masokits etched 2 bolt turnout, I could either be wrong or change my mind but with the exception of the slide chairs I feel the moulded chair is far easier to use and looks better. Still a long way to go in the build though

 

In my recent house move I decided to dispose of the 2 layouts (small) I was building, one was just a stop gap till I moved, the other intended for use at the club. As my modelling room is many months off I had thought of building a diorama which could be turned into a small layout later, I have a plan based on Bodmin General and if modelled in a preservation era I could run both GWR and SR locos together. Looking at your layout has stirred up my thoughts on this project.

 

It has also confirmed ply timbering is the route I should take, as I am going to hand build the plain track and have plenty of GWR chairs (both Exactoscale and C&L). The section around the engine shed is the diorama, but I will be swapping the turnout into the shed (which has 2 catch points within it) for a double slip. This I hope will keep the complicated piece of trackwork but add hopefully to the operational interest and add an extra loco storage road. I have decided to build it to 4SF + 2 mm gauge.

 

The other thing is rather than a tiebar to change the switch blades I am using a copperclad timber (duly gaped for electrical isolation) with the slide part of a cast slide chair soldered to it and the switch rails soldered to the slide chair half. The outside parts of the slide chair will be soldered to the stock rails, then use plastic microrod to represent the tiebars

Great to see you back Mikkel,

Lovely work as ever and really interested to see your process - the placing of buildings should allow some terrific photographs and accompanying narratives ;)

Staying tuned for more :good:

Pete
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Focalplane
Jun 19 2016 08:33

I too was wondering!  What great work, Mikkel, always inspirational.  I am on a temporary break but your post has me itching to get back to France and carry on.

Mikkel

 

Very impressed with the workmanship, especially the ballasting of the turnouts points, lately I have grown fonder of the Exactoscale plastic timbers, especially when used in conjunction with plastic plain track. But I must say your hand built plain track on ply looks far superior to RTL plastic.

 

Its a great pity there are no GWR slide chairs and special chairs available, still cutting and shutting 2 bolts in conjunction with them is far better than having nothing

 

At the moment I am building a Masokits etched 2 bolt turnout, I could either be wrong or change my mind but with the exception of the slide chairs I feel the moulded chair is far easier to use and looks better. Still a long way to go in the build though

 

In my recent house move I decided to dispose of the 2 layouts (small) I was building, one was just a stop gap till I moved, the other intended for use at the club. As my modelling room is many months off I had thought of building a diorama which could be turned into a small layout later, I have a plan based on Bodmin General and if modelled in a preservation era I could run both GWR and SR locos together. Looking at your layout has stirred up my thoughts on this project.

 

It has also confirmed ply timbering is the route I should take, as I am going to hand build the plain track and have plenty of GWR chairs (both Exactoscale and C&L). The section around the engine shed is the diorama, but I will be swapping the turnout into the shed (which has 2 catch points within it) for a double slip. This I hope will keep the complicated piece of trackwork but add hopefully to the operational interest and add an extra loco storage road. I have decided to build it to 4SF + 2 mm gauge.

 

The other thing is rather than a tiebar to change the switch blades I am using a copperclad timber (duly gaped for electrical isolation) with the slide part of a cast slide chair soldered to it and the switch rails soldered to the slide chair half. The outside parts of the slide chair will be soldered to the stock rails, then use plastic microrod to represent the tiebars

 

Hi John, many thanks, I'm really glad you say that, as I was worrying whether I could do your points justice!

 

The ballasting of the points did give me some grey hairs. Being ready-built I couldn't just slosh polyfilla all over them. I first tried Chris Nevard's approach using DAS model clay, but I couldn't get it to look right under the rails, so eventually I laid a thin layer of polyfilla, and once it was medium-set (after half an hour) I pressed the point hard down into it until I was sure it had contact with the underlay and was all flat. I then lifted the point back out again, leaving a neat imprint. I could then add glue in the imprint and stick the point firmly down.

 

As mentioned the points work perfectly. I don't have sufficient knowledge to engage in the 4-SF debate - all I know is that I'm satisifed with how my variety of scratchbuilt and kitbuilt wagons run nicely through the points with no wheel-drop at all.

 

Sounds like a great idea to do a diorama until your modelling room is ready. Shouldn't be too hard to design something that can be expanded into a larger layout later. A Bodmin style joint layout sounds great, not least with your trackbuilding skills.

 

I think I've heard about that technique for switching before. Would be interesting to see it in operation. I didn't think I'd worry about a closer-to-scale tiebar myself, but once you start looking closely at things it suddenly begins to matter! 

Great to see you back Mikkel,

Lovely work as ever and really interested to see your process - the placing of buildings should allow some terrific photographs and accompanying narratives ;)

Staying tuned for more :good:

Pete

 

Hi Pete, thanks, work on the buildings has started - I'm working on the loading area for that biscuit shed just now.  I really should be fixing things around the house, but what's the worst than can happen? The roof may come down but never mind :-)

I too was wondering!  What great work, Mikkel, always inspirational.  I am on a temporary break but your post has me itching to get back to France and carry on.

 

Hi Paul, thanks - it's nice to have started on something new, I like running (shunting) my stock but building is what keeps me going. Can't keep up with your progress on Legge Lane though, which is very impressive. I hope you're enjoying the break, there is nothing like a bit of absence from modelling to get the juices flowing!

Glad to see more developments in the Farthing series. Could you post on using foam board for baseboard construction? Drduncan

Glad to see more developments in the Farthing series. Could you post on using foam board for baseboard construction? Drduncan

 

Hi Drduncan, if it's any help there is a bit in this earlier post: http://www.rmweb.co....in-a-hard-shell

 

Also a bit here: http://www.rmweb.co....on-the-sidings/

 

There seem to be several different types and brands out there, and unfortunately I don't know what brand I'm using as I just get it in loose weight off the shelf in a local handicraft shop. Must remember to ask.

 

After using foamboard for my traverser without any problems (http://www.rmweb.co....-the-bumblebee/) I got a bit cocky and thought everything was possible with this material. With the current layout  I am beginning to experience the limitations. Eg I used cork as an underlay stuck down with PVA, and in one places it seems to have reacted with the foamboard top and swelled up slightly! So I had to remove that part and "sand" it down. I've also become a bit worried that my very simple bracing on this longer layout (150x37 cm) is sufficient. It hasn't warped yet (it was built 1½ year ago) but it doesn't feel as sturdy as I would have liked, so I'm thinking of adding some additional bracing.

Welcome to Farthing!

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This blog chronicles the building of "The Farthing layouts", a series of small OO layouts that portray different sections of a GWR junction station in Edwardian days.

 

Intro and concept
How to eat an elephant
Design principles
State of play

 

Gallery (1900-1904)
Four o'clock blues, ca. 1902
What really happened in the Cuban...
The honourable slipper boy (Part 1)
The honourable slipper boy (Part 2)
The honourable slipper boy (Part 3)

 

Gallery (1904-08)
The trials of Mr Bull
A most implausible arrival
A parcel for Mr Ahern
Blue skies and horse traffic
The Remains of the Day
Motley crew

Edwardian daydreams

 

Gallery (1914)
All in a day's work, Part 1
All in a day's work, Part 2
All in a day's work, Part 3
All in a day's work, Part 4

 

Out of period
Undecided sky (1867)
The sleeping giant (1887)
Bunker first (1927)
Fitted fish and piles (1947)

 

Videos
Once Upon a Time in the West
Summer silliness
The unbearable lightness...
Across the years
The Sidelight Job
Painting coach panels

Traverser testing

 

Coaches
Low-tech pre-grouping stock

Short trains for short layouts
Short trains with a twist
Hand-me-down coaches
Low-tech coach restoration (1)
Low-tech coach restoration (2)
Low-tech coach restoration (3)
Low-tech coach restoration (4)
Low-tech coach restoration (5)

 

Wagons
Sprat & Winkle couplings
3 plank Open in GWR red
Outside Framed 8 Ton Van

In the red: GWR 1900s wagon liveries
In loving memory...
Scratchbuilt one-planker (1)
Scratchbuilt one-planker (2)
MSWJR 3-plank dropside
LSWR 10 ton sliding door van
SDJR Road Van
LSWR stone wagon
Fake news and wagon sheets

 

Locos
GWR 1854 Saddle Tank (1)
GWR 1854 Saddle Tank (2)
Shiny domes and safety valve covers

 

Track
C+L underlay and Carr's ballast
Experiments with C+L track
Comparing track
Messing about with track panels
Laying track on "The depot"

 

Vehicles
GWR horse-drawn trolley
GWR 5-ton horse-drawn vehicle
Parcels van and coal trolley

 

Goods
Fun with crates
Barrels, baskets, bales
Small crates and tea chests

 

Figures
Andrew Stadden 4mm figures
Backdated Monty's figures
Footplate crew
HO figures for an OO layout
Lesser known whitemetal figures

 

Building "The bay"
First bite: "The bay"
Simple structures for "The bay"
Platform trolleys and barrows
Signs, posters and adverts
Six lessons learnt

 

Building "The depot"
Second bite: "The depot"
Shunting Puzzle
Sketches of The depot
Soft body, hard shell
Kit-bashed roof structure
Dry Run
Dusting off the cobwebs
Playing with mirrors
Mezzanine floor
Progress on "The depot"
4mm slate roofing
The treachery of images

A roof for "The depot"

A tall bird from Paddington
Cranes for the depot
Shoulders of giants
Flight of the bumblebee

 

Building "The sidings"
Third bite: "The sidings"
Wagon propulsion
Progress on "The sidings"
Rising from slumber
The Biscuit Shed
A shed and a lock-up
Agricultural merchant's warehouse
Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall

 

The FSWDC
Railway modelling and Art
Moving Pictures
Season's greetings

 

Layout ideas
A flexible layout
Kicking back in Gloucester

 

Miscellaneous
GWR stables - an overview
Journey to Didcot
Detail hunting at Didcot
Here's looking at you
The mists of time (and all that)
My friend the operating chair
Ready-to-plonk freight
GWR Modelling website

 

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