RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted March 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2018 Work of art that Mike you had to get your thinking cap on to work all that timber out. I haven’t seen chicken wire used in a while that will be interesting. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Wow Mike you have been a busy bee ....those control panels are amazing fantastic job excellent. I am sure your really pleased with the outcome of all this hard work I know you have been thinking of this change for quite a while now but I'm so you feel that all the upheaval has been well worth the effort it has brought a totally new concept this this wonderful layout ......Andy we really do need a WOW button Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 Thanks guys glad you are enjoying things, will be going out to the den as soon as the bubbles start on the TV! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 Hi all, The results of the last two evenings efforts, I'll let the photos do the talking... I decided to have a go with the chicken wire, its been a long long time since I used this method. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandbridgejct Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 May I make a suggestion about the south end while you’re changing things, please? I’m less than convinced by the line going over a bridge and straight into a tunnel, and I’m sceptical about the ‘worked out quarry’ explanation. I can’t see someone digging such a shallow quarry beside a stream. While you had the helix, there really wasn’t a choice, so I said nothing, but now you have the curve, you could opt for bridge - cutting - tunnel which might be more prototypical. Just an armchair suggestion for the only part of your layout I have any reservations about. I’m thoroughly enthusiastic about the rest, and look forward to seeing it in its new guise. (And I’d be delighted for someone to post a picture of a prototype to prove me wrong. ) Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 Hi Alan, May I make a suggestion about the south end while you’re changing things, please? I’m less than convinced by the line going over a bridge and straight into a tunnel, and I’m sceptical about the ‘worked out quarry’ explanation. I can’t see someone digging such a shallow quarry beside a stream. While you had the helix, there really wasn’t a choice, so I said nothing, but now you have the curve, you could opt for bridge - cutting - tunnel which might be more prototypical.Just an armchair suggestion for the only part of your layout I have any reservations about. I’m thoroughly enthusiastic about the rest, and look forward to seeing it in its new guise. (And I’d be delighted for someone to post a picture of a prototype to prove me wrong. )Alan I do agree in principle that the south end is not strictly correct either in prototype or general topography however I just wanted something of a focal point. Perhaps the old quarry theory was a step too far so I'll just call it an escarpment. Sadly there is no real option to modify the off scene approach at the south as I have to the north especially as the layout in its entirety has been moved at least 18 inches that way to accommodate the larger radius approach of the north. I doubt I'll ever alter the south end but time will tell! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandbridgejct Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Thanks Mike. It was just a passing thought. The improvements at the north end look great. Keep up the good work. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 Hi all, Weekend update back on track.......it seems! Once the scenics begin you feel you're getting there, this is the view toward Rise Hill tunnel The culvert takes shape The view toward the Coal Road bridge The west side embankment General northbound view Cont/... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 The extensions salvaged from the redundant off-cuts will be fashioned into the main hillside to give more continuity to the bleak fells Similar treatment to the north end I am undecided whether time was saved reverting to chicken wire and newspaper -v- insulation board, I will say its quite fun to do. The content of the newspapers may be difficult to cover if you get my drift! I can assure you they were not mine I have not bought a newspaper since the Seventies! 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPH 603 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2018-03-25 18.02.40.jpg 2018-03-25 18.03.56.jpg The extensions salvaged from the redundant off-cuts will be fashioned into the main hillside to give more continuity to the bleak fells 2018-03-25 18.03.34.jpg 2018-03-25 18.03.42.jpg Similar treatment to the north end I am undecided whether time was saved reverting to chicken wire and newspaper -v- insulation board, I will say its quite fun to do. The content of the newspapers may be difficult to cover if you get my drift! I can assure you they were not mine I have not bought a newspaper since the Seventies! I can really see this coming along now, and I think it looks great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted March 25, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 25, 2018 Nice to see some chicken wire! A while since I've used any. We have all got used to using insulation board, but the traditional method still works a treat. Nice work, Mike. This scenic messing is my favourite bit of layout building. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Nothing wrong with chicken wire. And if you don't have a bird cage to line, I suspect that's the next best use for The Sun... (I confess I wish I'd thought to line mine on Stockrington with newspaper before apply the plaster bandages) Cheers Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Being from the Mersyside area I trust there were no copies of the 'Sun' newspaper in this hillside Excellent work Mike soon be time to have our weekly fix of wonderful photographs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Hi guys, Thanks to all for the above comments, its nice to see the various inputs. Martin - I can assure you there were NO copies of The Sun included, only our local free paper and The Star courtesy of an employee who I'm sure only bought it for the pictures because if you quizzed him on any current affairs I doubt he ever read the thing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Being from the Mersyside area I trust there were no copies of the 'Sun' newspaper in this hillside Excellent work Mike soon be time to have our weekly fix of wonderful photographs I thought that's how Mike was getting the smooth contours to the rolling hills... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted March 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27, 2018 2017-05-29 10.42.58.jpg Rear view also shows the signalbox locker room lights are on, some adjustment to the locking gear perhaps. 2017-05-29 11.41.08.jpg A nice period view across the car park picks out an AA motorcycle, a Morris Traveller and a Riley saloon. Oh in the background is Clan Pacific 72009 'Clan Stewart' in charge of a southbound cattle working. 2017-05-29 11.42.46.jpg The two coalmen are too busy to even look at the passing Clan. 2017-05-29 11.43.47.jpg I did like the Clan's even though the first 5 were scrapped before my interest was sparked, utter madness then as it is even now with the 60's and 90's. 2017-05-29 11.44.38.jpg A nice vista of Dentdale 2017-05-29 11.44.54.jpg The Clan's crew are lost in that large cab the Standards have. 2017-05-29 11.45.06.jpg In case you thought I was jesting this view just shows the driver at the controls, it looks like 72009 got a wash of very dirty coal when passing under the coaling tower. 2017-05-29 11.46.35.jpg As the cattle disappears a 9F exits Widdale tunnel. 2017-05-29 11.47.21.jpg 92058 is hauling an Iron Ore hopper working north to Ravenscraig Steel Works near Motherwell. Cont/... Mike brilliant stuff the clan hauling 27 cattle wagons in the long shot is simply superb. Add to that the 9F so well weathered wonderful stuff. Page 167. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Hi Ade, You're getting very close to completing your marathon journey through the pages of 'Dent Station' I am very pleased you have enjoyed it so far and perhaps just as you do so I may just be able to run trains again after the conversion work possession is lifted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted March 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27, 2018 Hi Ade, You're getting very close to completing your marathon journey through the pages of 'Dent Station' I am very pleased you have enjoyed it so far and perhaps just as you do so I may just be able to run trains again after the conversion work possession is lifted. Mike I’m following also so have all the new updates to keep abreast of as I go must say looks like it’s going to be a great addition.Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 Hi all, Busy day on Dent, some would say if I worked as hard at work or in the house........yatter yatter yatter........ you get my drift, my reply is commonly a take on a Bill Shankly classic, "my model railway is more important than life itself!" does not always go down well but being a Glaswegian I'm used to living dangerously. Will post a few photos tomorrow guys. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 Hi all, As promised a few photos to show recent efforts. I have been concentrating on the new extension landscaping shown previously with the chicken wire frame and basic newspaper covering, next I re-used salvaged mod-roc from the section originally over the old spiral supplemented by new mod-roc, pictures show the tale... Basic covering showing re-use of old mod-roc in places If you recall my worries over foam -v- chicken wire as a base, well the results speak for themselves - not in visual terms but in strength! I soon found that the foam is a much more rigid affair and the wire remains fairly flexible, so much so that this photo shows a compromise in the application of some casting plaster to stiffen things up, all will be well. Has the appearance of a patchwork quilt at present I should have learned by now either to cover the track or not to ballast it prior to lashing gooey substances everywhere! I also managed to salvage the rocks and re-position them around First coat of casting plaster over the bare mod-roc, this was then recovered over the whole area but forgot to take a photo - doh!!! Easy to see I have some track cleaning work to attend to A few more rocks were made from the excess casting plaster and placed randomly then the whole thing left to dry and painted with an earthy brown Soon be time for GRASS!!!!!!!! 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 It's amazing how quickly the terraforming comes along once you brown it up, isn't it, Mike? Nice work. As you say, you *do* need to remember where there are supports under the chicken wire that you can lean on. Or else be prepared for sink holes that may need to be made into duck ponds later... Cheers Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 Duck ponds Scott! more like black holes as I don't tend to do things by half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 Well guys I went into the den at 9am with the initial intention of finishing the rewiring to the buildings lamps, an hour I thought - a day it took! I was stumped by a fault s o m e w h e r e, I tried all the usual tricks and in the end fitted another independent 12v DC supply even though the meter showed a 12v reading??? and this done the trick, by then it was 3pm so only a little bit of landscape work was done so no photos today guys. Still can't get my head round this electrical anomaly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Looking very good Mike, nice scenic's mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted April 1, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 1, 2018 176 pages done, simply a brilliant layout Mike, you didn’t make a lifting of restrictions by the time I finished reading the thread but hey, it’s moving on very well. Looking forward to seeing some locos moving again. Couple points constructive I hope, the underside of the shelf above the layout appears frequently could this be disguised in some way, curve back scene up and under or some grey sky medium. The back scene joins could line up more flush? Those new trees appear almost a fluorescent green? Could be a trick of the light and camera and better in person? Sorry if those points don’t come across as supportive they are meant to be. Been a joy to read from the start and see Dent evolve as everyone else says it’s a stunning layout. Keep up the good work. Cheers Ade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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