RMweb Gold Downendian Posted June 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2016 Yes the Warships one landed here on my doormat this morning, as Peter has said some familiar shots but mostly new. Inside was an advert for the new MLI app, promptly downloaded and bought back issues that were previously unobtainable. It really is a super series of magazines. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 The mag repeats the story of the hydraulics being a Western Region want rather than the version OS Nock has that the BTC wanted to trial hydraulics and decided that they needed to be allocated on one region/area, and that they could (for example) have been allocated to Cricklewood/Leicester/Toton instead - the decision to allocate them to the Western according to Nock being a BTC one rather than down to the WR board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2016 Sometimes I think MLI is a bit lacking in detail just a collection of pretty decent pictures. For example it mentions that 870 was proposed for ETH fitment and that it wasn't possible but doesn't tell you why. Also it says the first 3 D800s were non multi,but they were multi equipped for working with each other and last rant it say the 4 air pipes on D600s buffer beams were all engine control pipes (?) . Two were main reservoir pipes but are the other two regulating air pipes? Not a bad magazine I just wish there was more reading in some of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) Sometimes I think MLI is a bit lacking in detail just a collection of pretty decent pictures. For example it mentions that 870 was proposed for ETH fitment and that it wasn't possible but doesn't tell you why. It says, on page 49, the proposed ETH fitting "was not furthered" which does not neccessarily imply it was not possible, equally it could have been cancelled due to knowledge that the hydraulics were to be withdrawn as non standard. Agree however there is often details missed and all too often conflicts; for example D801 is said to be the second prototype on page 26 yet two pages later D800 is decribed as the first production loco (surely that was D803). Edited June 5, 2016 by Butler Henderson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) #220 on BR (Southern Region) EMUs arrived this morning. Covers units from EPBs, HAPs, CEPs, CIGs, REPs to next generation Cl.508s, 455s and 442s. Also covers the Gatwick Express Cl.488 conversions, Isle of Wight and Waterloo & City trains. As is usual with this publication, some of the illustrations will be familiar but most appear to be new (at least to me). There is a real gem of a picture on p.22 of a MLV at Folkestone Harbour in 1961. Mailbags and luggage everywhere (including on the track). Lovely! Think the author has tried to cover too much though. Could easily have split the units into suburban and mainline, covering the material in two (or even three) editions of the magazine. I mean, only four pages for the Cl.442s; come on.......... Edited July 27, 2016 by Peter Kazmierczak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamiel Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I would suspect that multiple units of any description and not as good sellers as main line locomotives, but I do know what you mean, especially if you are modelling one of those classes, you still need to put as much work into it as something with a wider appeal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted July 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 27, 2016 They covered all the first gen dmus in one issue, where I'd hoped for a more comprehensive review eg they could have done Pressed Steel, Derby, Swindon units Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_crisp Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 The first Gen dmu issue is the only one that I've been disappointed as otherwise the series has been excellent. The first Gen dmu issue is the only one that I've been disappointed as otherwise the series has been excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) Surely they must be running out of subjects unless they redo some of the big compilation of class editions more as separate classes. Edited July 27, 2016 by Butler Henderson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brigo Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 They've still got at least 12 issues planned, http://www.mli-magazine.com/future-issues.html Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) I don't mind them but there are often errors in them. The last issue had errors regarding the multi working equipment of the first three D800s, and stated that the D600s had four main reservoir pipes when two were obviously regulating air pipes Edited July 27, 2016 by russ p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 #220 on BR (Southern Region) EMUs arrived this morning. (Snip) Think the author has tried to cover too much though. Could easily have split the units into suburban and mainline, covering the material in two (or even three) editions of the magazine. I mean, only four pages for the Cl.442s; come on.......... I've got myself a copy of issue #220 and I have to agree with the above. It gets rather bitty, especially the second half, and seems to skirt over many classes. Certainly the 508, 455, 456, 442, 488 & 489 classes could have warranted a complete issue of their own. And the underground/city line stock (4vec, 3tis, 438 and 482) could be another (perhaps along with East London electric underground stock). Shame as what there is shows potential. G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted August 1, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 1, 2016 Definitely a winner this edition, the next one on the other hand I predict will have trouble selling quite as well.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 1, 2016 They've still got at least 12 issues planned, http://www.mli-magazine.com/future-issues.html Brian Looks like I'll only be buying, 1 maybe 2, more issues then! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Definitely a winner this edition, the next one on the other hand I predict will have trouble selling quite as well.... Er, yes, my subscription copy arrived yesterday (after getting a warning e-mail that the publishers were running late). As noted it covers the 220, 221 and 221 Pendolino family. Something of a specialised interest might be a kind way of putting it. Anyway, in a change to the published programme, the next issue covers "Departmental Locomotives" - from the cover illustrations it will include purpose-built, conversions and locos renumbered into departmental series. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Er, yes, my subscription copy arrived yesterday (after getting a warning e-mail that the publishers were running late). As noted it covers the 220, 221 and 221 Pendolino family. Something of a specialised interest might be a kind way of putting it. But bear in mind that in 30 years time the Class 220/221/222 family will be held in the same high regard as the Westerns and Deltics, and people will be posting on RMWeb desperate to get their hands on this issue of MLI ! (Coat and hat ready) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Some of the text is very poorly written. Read the first two paragraphs and see if you can make sense of them. Looks like a poor "copy and paste" job..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 A poor seller? I don't know so much. Hornby probably sell more Pendolinos than any other "modern image" model and probably more than any other manufacturer sells Westerns, Warships or Deltics. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted September 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 30, 2016 It's not a Pendolino. This issue is class 220/221/222 Voyagers and Meridians Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Ah! I read Pendolino in post #40 and thought they had lumped them all together as stated here. http://www.mli-magazine.com/future-issues.html Never mind. I still think that it'll be a popular choice with the "modern" enthusiasts though. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Has anyone seen issue 223 for sale? Edited February 2, 2017 by Butler Henderson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Yes i got mine today, seems they either got the published date a week early, or its a week late, deltics next time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Yes i got mine today, seems they either got the published date a week early, or its a week late, deltics next time! A week late as it should be every other last Thursday. Found them today in local WHS although looking down the rack of mags could not see them and it was only when I looked at the rake head on from a distance I spotted about 3mm of the LH edges appeared out from behind the pile of another magazine. Just hope they hide the Deltic issue as well as I can see that one selling far more than the current issue - Networker, Juniper and Javelin (one of those issues that someone could argue fails to comply with the title of the mag) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 If you took it literally then you could do the whole series in about three issues as there are only about three modern locomotives classes. There's no way that you could describe something built over fifty years ago as modern. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Thought this latest issue well worth getting. I find the issues on more mundane, hence less well-covered units, always informative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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