RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted September 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2013 Isn't it somewhere near the incident that a loco sank without trace? Perhaps they are hoping for a repeat so they don't need the lifting gear. Or would that sink too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) No, that was Lindal in Furness! 66 125 has arrived with Bescot's 'baby' crane - But at the moment they seem to attempting, with some success, to lift it back on with jacks -Note the end nearest is now in the air. Note also the police blue tape, so no better photo's I'm afraid! Kev. Edited September 19, 2013 by kevpeo 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 It's over, well mainly! - The flask carrier was re-railed by 5pm and the 57's re-united with it. They then proceeded to push it to & fro slowly! I'm guessing while the wheels etc. were checked over. The 'big yellow lorry - And the state of the track afterwards - It doesn't look like the 'main line' is damaged, so hopefully the line should be back to normal tomorrow? Some relaying is going to need doing but there is a 'point kit' sitting by the site of Salthouse box, so this may have been on the cards anyway. kev. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Note the end nearest is now in the air. Note also the police blue tape, so no better photo's I'm afraid! Kev. Pics of the rerailing coaches would be good though! I only have good pics of one side as it's only viewable from one side at BS. (Hoping that the side you can see is the side I want info for........) Edit: The side I need pics for is the one visible behind the 66 - the other two vehicles of the BS re-railing train are the ex Super-GUV's. Cheers, Mick Edited September 19, 2013 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 Not much hope of that Mick. It's somebodies garden on one side and a long drop into brambles on the other! Sorry, somebody might have got it when/if it went to Barrow to run round. kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2013 Ta anyway. I'll keep my eyes on flickr etc for 1Z99. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 Well they were busy over the weekend! All the sleepers from the trap point to the mainline point have been replaced as well as the first six big sleepers of this as well. All with new baseplates and fixings as well as what looks like virgin bullhead rail! The strange thing is that the 'point kit' is still sat 50 yards away, so are they going to come back and replace it all again? Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted September 24, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2013 I hope that they don't decide to replace it the weekend of your show! Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Maybe the trains will be able to approach a little quicker, I swear there was an emergency speed restriction over that junction. Use TPE most weeks into Barrow and they always slowed to cross that point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) You are correct woodenhead. A 15 mph restriction has been in force over that point for many years! Kev. edit - spelling and rubbish memory! Edited September 25, 2013 by kevpeo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 25, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2013 Last time I was there a lovely Furness signal box sat next to the connection and then my mate and his pen drew a plan ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Interesting read.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygif Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 And the state of the track afterwards - DSCF0007.JPG probably didnt look much better before either, those sleepers look a bit rotten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Popplewell Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Thanks Tim. That's a lot of wheels off! It's further forward than I thought too. Still stuck there, apparently when they try to jack it up the jacks are sinking rather than lift the wagon! I think the plan for tomorrow is to bring in a 75 ton crane. The local radio is reporting the line as closed from 10am until 4pm. Kev. Lucky the flask was empty they'd never shift it if it was full. I believe Uranium and Plutonium are pretty heavy stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) probably didnt look much better before either, those sleepers look a bit rotten. Very true Andy. You can see from the picture above that that the 'mainline' is still bullhead rail through that point too. If I'm not mistaken this short stretch (100 yards?) is the only remaining bullhead between the Barrow station area and Carnforth! Why it has never been replaced I have no idea, as some other stretches have had flat bottom renewed with more flat bottomed lately? Mind this may be about to change as apart from the point kit, there are now piles of steel sleepers and new rail stockpiled alongside the track all the way round to near Roose station now. Kev. edit - 'point kit' has turned out to be an expansion joint! Kev. Edited October 8, 2013 by kevpeo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygif Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Lucky the flask was empty they'd never shift it if it was full. I believe Uranium and Plutonium are pretty heavy stuff. "empty"..... like they admit it was full...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Isn't most nuclear waste actually things like overalls and boiler suits? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I reckon they should send 46009 down there to collect the flasks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSTFAN13 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Isn't most nuclear waste actually things like overalls and boiler suits? That's called low level waste HSTFAN13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11B Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 from the news page of DRS web site..... http://www.directrailservices.com/news-articles/2013/10/03/initial-findings-into-de-railment-at-barrow/ DRS's internal investigation is on-going as to what caused the derailment at Salthouse Junction, Barrow on 16th September 2013. An interim report is nearing conclusion with initial findings indicating the incident was a result of human error. At this stage the cause of the wagon becoming de-railed was as a result of rail staff failing to operate the ground frame mechanism correctly. As a direct result the train was de-railed by the safety mechanism (Catch Points) in a controlled manner in accordance with its design. There are no indications at this stage of any fault or defect in any of the track, signalling or rail vehicles involved Click on the above link for full story.... Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Very true Andy. You can see from the picture above that that the 'mainline' is still bullhead rail through that point too. If I'm not mistaken this short stretch (100 yards?) is the only remaining bullhead between the Barrow station area and Carnforth! Why it has never been replaced I have no idea, as some other stretches have had flat bottom renewed with more flat bottomed lately? Mind this may be about to change as apart from the point kit, there are now piles of steel sleepers and new rail stockpiled alongside the track all the way round to near Roose station now. Kev. edit - 'point kit' has turned out to be an expansion joint! Kev. Those metal sleepers and rails have been there months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 That shows how often I travel out of Barrow station Southbound woodenhead. Roose is much more convenient! Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 10, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2013 from the news page of DRS web site..... http://www.directrailservices.com/news-articles/2013/10/03/initial-findings-into-de-railment-at-barrow/ DRS's internal investigation is on-going as to what caused the derailment at Salthouse Junction, Barrow on 16th September 2013. An interim report is nearing conclusion with initial findings indicating the incident was a result of human error. At this stage the cause of the wagon becoming de-railed was as a result of rail staff failing to operate the ground frame mechanism correctly. As a direct result the train was de-railed by the safety mechanism (Catch Points) in a controlled manner in accordance with its design. There are no indications at this stage of any fault or defect in any of the track, signalling or rail vehicles involved Click on the above link for full story.... Ian i.e. it either failed to stop in the right place and ran through the trap points, or someone didn't respond correctly to a handsignal/whatever while the points were being changed or someone didn't check the points before authorising a movement over them. So either a SPAD if there happened to be a STOP board (is there one?), or failure to respond to a handsignal, or failure to check the points were correctly set before authorising the train to pass over them. Time required to reach a conclusion - about 10 minutes if everybody is telling the truth, sounds a bit more complicated than that though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 I've noticed this week that the docks trains now seem to be top'n'tailed (by 37's, yeah!). Now whether this is as a result of the accident would be interesting to know? kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11B Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Just found this on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKa0t8R5aHE Maybe of interest to some of you. This did get me thinking.... There was nothing about it from the RAIB. Anybody know why? Kind regards Ian 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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