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Must have been just about the earliest class 20s fitted with air. And some of the first mainline diesels fitted with air alongside the Consett 24s?

Thanks Bob, I was Googling around because I could swear I read a list of what came in and out at Muir Of Ord but found that Flickr set in the RealTrack 156 thread.

Which now has me wondering, were they originally stranded after the bridge collapse (the opening of the new one was still a month away) or were they rotated in?

I very nearly started a thread to try identify this as it pops up in a BTF film about BRS with it parked up in the bay at Killin. I can find that it was a NBR 58' 4" third but not the diagram.:

Certainly won't miss it, its enormous! Haven't been to a show in years but had a good time today. Wellpark, Tellindalloch and Donaghadee being particular highlights on the layout front.

Am I meant to extrapolate that there is a litany of enthusiasts of a specific variety of adult activity enjoyers in the vicinity?

I used to be pretty intimately involved in the craft beer industry and from where I've been sitting: bigger isn't always better. A smaller operation with a small reach has less overheads and can get by with a small handful of essential staff whereas a larger operation with a larger direct distro area and export will have entire departments (sales, marketing etc etc) so any shake up in the market puts the big player in the danger zone but when the smaller operation has one person dealing with a few hats at any one time, they can weather it a bit better. Generally. This is absolutely shocking news whatever way you look at it. One of the longest serving retailers who've weathered all sorts of economic headwinds, seen manufacturers rise and fall, led the sector in bespoke models that manufacturers didn't want to touch (generic 4 wheelers aside) and had an indelible mark on the world of online model train retailing. Thats no small loss to a small sector. Hattons will be greatly missed when the last parcel is despatched.

From Robert Gadsdon's collection. He's also pointed out the window arrangement in the brake section which I can't recall seeing before:

Incredible work. Reminds me a lot of when I spent time with a lady who lived near Queens Park station. Does it come with authentic sound and scent? The smell of old lager and oppressive silence when you walk in the joint.

This was only a couple of months ahead of the supposed date: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahlerau_train_disaster .

Went looking for the website this morning and its disappeared. Taking it as news its no longer in operation?

Not sure how odd it could be classed as but there was at least another out in the wild:

Want to save space by putting the running line but don't want to look out of place? Canonbie Goods has got you

Whilst searching for something else related to this thread, I came across this of a couple of class 20s coming back from Longannet with a long rake. https://railphotoprints.uk/p448560584/h248465B6#h171ca2ad

It was still going out of fashion till the compressed air sanders came along then the trending upwards weight made it untenable for such front line work like you say. Singles were fast, theres no doubt but seemed to be somewhat fickle against less than ideal railhead conditions. Drummond facing up to Westinghouse is interesting. Do you know how much pressure the sanders required and how much of a drain on the reservoir

123 was an anorchism at the time but proved there was still mileage in the single wheeler concept with a few tweaks. It lived a fairly quiet life after Race To The North antics working inspection saloons, Royal Pilot and a while spent on Dundee - Perth shuttles. It seems to have become a bit of a 'pet' locomotive which usually brings some goodwill from various corners. It was also a popular railtour locomotive but if it hadn't been saved like a Dean Single, it might well have just been a footnote for a design that was almost at an evolutionary dead end. I'm sure theres a bias from the railtours but you just have to see how many people sought it out including luminaries of it on railtours especially the infamous C&O run in the snow. Plus, seeing how 828 and 419 are received wherever they go, theres a thirst for seeing the flair of the Caledonian liveries.

Same with Gordon Highlander. The green it carries today had been replaced by black by the time it was built but now that livery in itself is prototypical. Wonder if Scottish Region went with those two for aesthetic rather than historic purposes.

A truly strange situation. Muirs current yards are not far from the house and I've seen one of them which is nearer a gate. Theres also a diesel too. From what I understand, the price asked for is truly dumb money for what they're worth unrestored hulks.

A 24/1 AND 27 (which in itself is a bit of a rare bird here) seem overkill here (though theres probably a good reason for it. The other thing that stands out is that the end is punctuated by an open wagon of some variety. Incredibly little passenger accommodation even for the Kyle line.

My last Edinburgh flat was near the Asda at Granton and you have nailed the Western Leith/ Trinity/ Granton look to a T. I'm not convinced this isn't the Prom Bar.

I mean, that is the founding principles of the British Museum. It's a storm in a teacup being invented by Darlington as far as I can see. This isn't a permanent removal but a celebration of a birthplace of steam.

Definitely a point Derby took a kicking for over on NatPres.

I can only assume that the friction surfaces were built with this in mind and not heavy WCML passenger trains. I have wondered if the Garratts would have been useful on the steep and tight routes of Scotland. Not so much raising the top speed but raising the average speed and removing the need for double heading.

Why shouldn't it be mocked? Its not treasonous to suggest a plan is dumb as rocks when it clearly is. HS2 and Crossrail still get pelters despite their obvious merits and pitfalls. Hyperloop is also a dumb idea thats being pitched as some revolutionary saviour. Though I guess 100mph is impressive when buses come as often as bed washing day. Britain isn't exactly known for transport projects coming in on time or anywhere near budget. Especially when our current PM wasted millions on a bridge that never existed. I don't think its a stretch to suggest none of them should be allowed near planning and should be given crayons and paper and left to it.

Were they designed and built with this in mind?