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GWR O11/15 Opens and V14/16 Vans - order book now open!
Garethp8873 replied to rapidoandy's topic in Rapido Trains
I wouldn't say there's a need for ASO. Second stock always turns up. You just have to patient sometimes... -
GWR O11/15 Opens and V14/16 Vans - order book now open!
Garethp8873 replied to rapidoandy's topic in Rapido Trains
Another arrival from Rapido!! The GWR modeller is being spoilt rotten with the GWR V14, V16, O11 and O15! 😁- 367 replies
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OO Gauge GWR Toplight Mainline & City Coaches announced
Garethp8873 replied to Free At Last's topic in Dapol
Cheers, my aim is to focus on Set's 3, 4 and 5. Possibly 2 but I doubt it. -
OO Gauge GWR Toplight Mainline & City Coaches announced
Garethp8873 replied to Free At Last's topic in Dapol
I have initiated my purchases of these with GWR 3751 today! An amazing model and I look forward to seeing the others. A question, can anyone tell me the eras that each of the six sets would work with please (in particular the GWR ones)? -
Caledonian Railway Dia.67 Van from Rapido
Garethp8873 replied to RapidoCorbs's topic in Rapido Trains
Thank you, that's the one I was referring to in my post earlier. With that in mind roughly 12 twelve years service the vans gave Cadbury then. Whether they were withdrawn by the LMS or BR is another question. -
Caledonian Railway Dia.67 Van from Rapido
Garethp8873 replied to RapidoCorbs's topic in Rapido Trains
This is speculation but looking in the background of one of the photos on the Transport Library website, there are photos of several ex-NER examples and possibly a Caledonian one in the very back but I cannot say for certain if it's Caledonian or not. The date of the photos is around 4/3/61 so if the van in the background is indeed a CR Dia.67, we can say the vans at least had 6 years service with Cadbury prior to them being donated to the fledging Severn Valley Railway in June 1967. I would suggest that like many pre-grouping wagons, the Caledonian Vans that went to Cadbury with withdrawn from possibly BR service in the mid-50s or maybe earlier. There is another photo where a CR Van is in the background but I cannot put my hand on it. All I know is the loco in front which is the No 10 Saddle Tank. -
Caledonian Railway Dia.67 Van from Rapido
Garethp8873 replied to RapidoCorbs's topic in Rapido Trains
I know of this photo of one Dia.67 in a goods in LBSCR territory. -
Caledonian Railway Dia.67 Van from Rapido
Garethp8873 replied to RapidoCorbs's topic in Rapido Trains
If the top one did go to Brechin, there is only a chassis left now sadly... Photo belonging to Allan Jenkins. -
I've been waiting for the Caledonian Vans for years so I am not complaining at all. And you're right, we've never had it so good 😁
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Caledonian Railway Dia.67 Van from Rapido
Garethp8873 replied to RapidoCorbs's topic in Rapido Trains
I suspect they were used to inspect the contents inside the van without opening the main door. -
Caledonian Railway Dia.67 Van from Rapido
Garethp8873 replied to RapidoCorbs's topic in Rapido Trains
I suspect it was cut up. Four of the five preserved examples are now based in Scotland. Former SVR vans 302080 & 304543 are now at Ferryhill in Aberdeen and 73004 & 73007 are at Bo'ness. The only example still in England is the OMB907 example at Rutland. There was a fifth example at the Caledonian Railway but last photo I saw, it was now missing the body. -
Caledonian Railway Dia.67 Van from Rapido
Garethp8873 replied to RapidoCorbs's topic in Rapido Trains
Yes I can answer that. 73007 - Date of build is unknown. 2080 - Approx build date is around 1910. 73804 - Van is identical to the example in Caledonian Wagons. Example in the book is 73814 but still the same van. 73814 was built in 1917 so I'd expect 73804 is around the same period too. 4543 - Approx build date is around 1910. -
Caledonian Railway Dia.67 Van from Rapido
Garethp8873 replied to RapidoCorbs's topic in Rapido Trains
Of the four examples that joined the Severn Valley Railway (infact they were the first wagons to join if I'm correct) in 1967, I would say 266/304543 was the longest one to bear the Cadbury livery. For how long, I am not certain. Eventually it was repainted into LMS Bauxite and that is the livery it beared until leaving the SVR along with 302080 for Ferryhill where they still are today. Remarkably for timber framed wagons they are still hanging on somehow. Looking at the old stock books, 2080/302080 was the first to be repainted into CR livery and subsequently into the post-1936 livery. 302080 is seen in Bauxite livery during the shunting scene at Arley in the God's Wonderful Railway drama. At somepoint after that it must have been repainted into LMS grey but I wouldn't know when. The other two, (268/300682 and 269/307455) from what I have seen as per photos on Flickr and during my research of Caledonian Vans were never repainted. Eventually the two were cut down to be used as flatbed wagons and once they served their use they were broken up. -
Caledonian Railway Dia.67 Van from Rapido
Garethp8873 replied to RapidoCorbs's topic in Rapido Trains
In the meantime there's an 812 😊