Richard Lee Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Right, but to take C&L as an example, it's significantly more expensive and not as widely available. (But yes I agree, it looks very authentic). SMP is cheaper than C&L (although still dearer than Peco usually is). http://marcway.net/list3.php?col=head&name=SCALEWAY+TRACK The chairs are smaller than C&L track, but more things run on it than C&L without problems. For instance, on the RMWeb Oxford Rail Adams Radial thread, someone reports that the Oxford Radial runs okay on SMP track whereas someone else said that there were problems the wheels running on chairs with C&L track, particularly on curves. I suspect that C&L might look better, but I believe that SMP looks better than Peco's Code 75 HO track. SMP has thin sleepers. If you want to use it with Peco Code 75 points you would probably decide to level it up. (I used thin cardboard under the SMP flexitrack on my smaller layout.) With Marcway points, the levels match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted March 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) PS: Does anyone have any opinion on whether the next PECO development should be in P4 of 4sf/00sf? And for that matter which one of the two gauges is best? Peco has always been consistently good at judging what is commercially viable in their mainstream "I've-moved-on-from-a-trainset-but-regard-track-as-something-to-run-trains-on-rather-than-my-main-focus-of-interest" target market as opposed to the few hundred who model in P4 and the six who think they know (but can't agree) what the other thing is. So, neither. John Edited March 26, 2016 by Dunsignalling 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2750Papyrus Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Not if you use Tri-Ang Standard Track. or Hornby-Dublo 3 rail. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I now realise though that all this was a complete waste of time and I'm grateful to Martin for drawing my attention to Peco's hyper realistic foam ballast strip. I've never actually noticed a main line ballasted with plastic foam but that's obviously my lack of observation and I must look out of the window more on my next train journey. You will need to look long and hard. The full-size railway noticed many decades ago that foam ballast deteriorates into a gooey mess and has since replaced nearly all of it with stone ballast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 or Hornby-Dublo 3 rail. Or Trix Twin bakelite. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamiel Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I spoke with the Peco people at the York show today, and they said they expected the OO Bullhead track at the end of the year, possibly for Warley, maybe December.Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26, 2016 I spoke with the Peco people at the York show today, and they said they expected the OO Bullhead track at the end of the year, possibly for Warley, maybe December. Jamie Ar$e. I may have a go at altering the sleeper spacing on my Scaleway Bullhead (Platform loops) to make it look a bit nearer the Peco spacing. I realise it should be the other way around and may well spend hours doing the Peco FB 10 Yards or so I need for my fast through tracks and purchase some more Scaleway for the rest of the area, Yards and Branch. However I've already got the Peco Slips and Pointwork. So CIBA...............not sure? I'm not waiting 'till end of '16 or even later as I could be dead by then. B. Allast 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 @Edwardian Is plain BH track and FB points any worse than SMP plain track and copper-clad, gapped sleepers with solder 'chaired' points? Or BH points with stamped point blades with huge gaps from the stock rails? Would you even notice from 3' away? Ah, the eternal question ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Vistisen Posted March 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2016 You will need to look long and hard. The full-size railway noticed many decades ago that foam ballast deteriorates into a gooey mess and has since replaced nearly all of it with stone ballast. But the real thing is not perfect yet, they still have not got the trick of using PVA glue to hold it in place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2016 But the real thing is not perfect yet, they still have not got the trick of using PVA glue to hold it in place. No, they use a sort of resin based glue instead I believe (presumably PVA isn't sufficiently weather proof?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 John I agree completely with that. You have summarised the whole thread in one sentence. Peco has always been consistently good at judging what is commercially viable in their mainstream "I've-moved-on-from-a-trainset-but-regard-track-as-something-to-run-trains-on-rather-than-my-main-focus-of-interest" target market as opposed to the few hundred who model in P4 and the six who think they know (but can't agree) what the other thing is. So, neither. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 or Hornby-Dublo 3 rail. No comparison I'm afraid. Tri-Ang is far superior. It has three dimensional sleepers and ballast. Hornby is just printed tin-plate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted March 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2016 Hornby is just printed tin-plate. But with 50% more rail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Vistisen Posted March 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2016 No, they use a sort of resin based glue instead I believe (presumably PVA isn't sufficiently weather proof?).[/quote Really? I did not know that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2016 No, they use a sort of resin based glue instead I believe (presumably PVA isn't sufficiently weather proof?).[/quote Really? I did not know that Here you go - https://www.flickr.com/photos/manofyorkshire/4777140761/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted March 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2016 Also discussed in the Dawlish Washout thread: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/81949-washout-at-dawlish/?p=1393034 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted March 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27, 2016 I spoke with the Peco people at the York show today, and they said they expected the OO Bullhead track at the end of the year, possibly for Warley, maybe December. Jamie But the really important question is "Are they doing matching pointwork?" Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 I read something, somewhere about them doing bullhead rail if it is any help. Though I'm not sure if it is in 00, P4, EM or 00sf/4sf. Incidentally, which of those gauges do you think is the best choice for them? But the really important question is "Are they doing matching pointwork?" Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted March 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) I read something, somewhere about them doing bullhead rail if it is any help. Though I'm not sure if it is in 00, P4, EM or 00sf/4sf. Incidentally, which of those gauges do you think is the best choice for them? For Peco - I think there's no question to be asked, but you could always try asking Peco direct. "Normal" 16.5mm 00 is their tried and trusted market. (Cue long discussion on what normal 16.5mm/00 really means..........) Cheers, Mick Edited March 27, 2016 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 For Peco - I think there's no question to be asked, but you could always try asking Peco direct. "Normal" 16.5mm 00 is their tried and trusted market. (Cue long discussion on what normal 16.5mm/00 really means..........) Cheers, Mick Well, now you come to mention it, there is nothing sacred about a gauge of 1435.1 mm. It just happens to be the nominal minimum gauge that's used on a lot of railways. The actual track gauge at any particular location might be considerably greater than that. Likewise, there is nothing sacred about a gauge of 16.5 mm. It just happens to be the nominal maximum gauge that's used on a lot of model railways. The actual track gauge at any particular location might be considerably less than that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted March 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2016 After a period off the air, this topic seems to be repeating itself from the beginning. I hope we all get repeat fees for our contributions. Martin. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Come again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Peco better get the finger out. I'm not sure we'll be able to stand another year of this 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted March 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2016 Peco better get the finger out. I'm not sure we'll be able to stand another year of this Never mind about that, my computer just updated itself to BST (daylight-saving time) right in the middle of compiling the Templot code files. Argh! Martin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Never mind about that, my computer just updated itself to BST (daylight-saving time) right in the middle of compiling the Templot code files. Argh! Martin. I know I should not be laughing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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