RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted December 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) As I ponder future projects my brain started to toy with some unusual layout ideas......has anyone tried to establish the minimum radius this little loco will actually negotiate before I start mucking about with test tracks etc.......? I know other factors such as buffer locking may impact on trackplans and operation but the loco info would be an interesting start if anyone has tested it..... Chris Edited December 11, 2021 by Gilbert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
friscopete Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Gilbert said: As I ponder future projects my brain started to toy with some unusual layout ideas......has anyone tried to establish the minimum radius this little loco will actually negotiate before I start mucking about with test tracks etc.......? I know other factors such as buffer locking may impact on trackplans and operation but the loco info would be an interesting start if anyone has tested it..... Chris I would like to know this too .I have a roundy 00 layout with 6 inch radius curves.My Dapol B4 will negotiate it well but i would love the J70 to chug round .Its surprising how much rolling stock gets round those curves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 I don't have access to a Setrack layout at present but the J70 has a 30mm fixed wheelbase. I have tried it on a R8073 point which is the only Setrack item I have here, and it feels tight. It certainly would not run on 6in radius curves. Second radius (438mm) is the minimum recommended radius). The other problem on sharp curves is the sideways 'throw' of the tension-lock coupler. It is pivoted to allow a normal amount of sideways movement but on very sharp curves it may well not be sufficient to prevent derailment of anything coupled to the locomotive. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted December 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2021 19 minutes ago, dibber25 said: I don't have access to a Setrack layout at present but the J70 has a 30mm fixed wheelbase. I have tried it on a R8073 point which is the only Setrack item I have here, and it feels tight. It certainly would not run on 6in radius curves. Second radius (438mm) is the minimum recommended radius). The other problem on sharp curves is the sideways 'throw' of the tension-lock coupler. It is pivoted to allow a normal amount of sideways movement but on very sharp curves it may well not be sufficient to prevent derailment of anything coupled to the locomotive. Thanks Chris- I'm not thinking as low as 6" but may have a play ....coupling etc would certainly be a factor I'd consider....I am however just thinking about a bit of "fun" - I shall report back when I get round to it. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coline33 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 I agree with Chris, The trackwork on my Welney Depot boards uses Setrack 2nd radius points and curved pieces. Absolutely no problems with my three J70s but first radius even on the odd piece of Setrack would slow the operation of them. All the best for the New Year, Colin. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy2305 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Please excuse the poor lighting of the photos taken yesterday evening, but No.139 now has a stablemate in the form of GE crimson No.126... Repainted by hand, I must say I'm quite pleased with this one! - James 14 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 They look very nice! (CJL) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted February 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2022 Love that! What a great duo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted May 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2022 With stocks levels now lower than a Dachshund's belt buckle, is it time to think of a re-run of the J70s ? Perhaps as a stand alone Rapido item ? Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted May 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: With stocks levels now lower than a Dachshund's belt buckle, is it time to think of a re-run of the J70s ? Perhaps as a stand alone Rapido item ? Rob. Dangerous talk...I'd have one.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted May 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: With stocks levels now lower than a Dachshund's belt buckle, is it time to think of a re-run of the J70s ? Perhaps as a stand alone Rapido item ? Rob. 5 minutes ago, Gilbert said: Dangerous talk...I'd have one.... I've recently contributed to stock reduction.............and would do so again...... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted May 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) I could resist a couple, squirreled away for the inevitable "future project". Edited May 27, 2022 by Barry Ten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rprodgers Posted May 30, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 30, 2022 On 27/05/2022 at 18:40, NHY 581 said: With stocks levels now lower than a Dachshund's belt buckle, is it time to think of a re-run of the J70s ? Perhaps as a stand alone Rapido item ? Rob. How viable would one in GER livery be ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted May 31, 2022 Author Share Posted May 31, 2022 22 hours ago, rprodgers said: How viable would one in GER livery be ? If we do a re-run - and to the best of my knowledge there are no plans to do so - it would probably include a GER livery this time. However, in the survey we did originally, the GER livery choice was evenly split between the blue and the red/grey schemes, meaning that neither got sufficient support to be worthwhile. (CJL) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted June 1, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2022 7 hours ago, dibber25 said: If we do a re-run - and to the best of my knowledge there are no plans to do so - it would probably include a GER livery this time. However, in the survey we did originally, the GER livery choice was evenly split between the blue and the red/grey schemes, meaning that neither got sufficient support to be worthwhile. (CJL) Morning Chris, Rapido are now releasing the Dynometer car, previously a Rails of Sheffield exclusive. Would this not be an option for Model Rail. With due regard to the L&NER modellers smongst us, perhaps Rapido could release the BR versions with Model Rail retaining a run in GER blue ? However, I think either pre-grouping livery would sell well, especially if supported by the W&U coach now going through the design/production stages. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 12 hours ago, dibber25 said: If we do a re-run - and to the best of my knowledge there are no plans to do so - it would probably include a GER livery this time. However, in the survey we did originally, the GER livery choice was evenly split between the blue and the red/grey schemes, meaning that neither got sufficient support to be worthwhile. (CJL) If you could only do one GER livery, then the one which was, historically, the more common would seem to be the best choice. Even people who would prefer the other version, if given the choice, would probably buy that. My gut feeing is that a GER version is more viable now than it was when the model was first announced, partly because pre-grouping in general seems to be a growing market and partly because the Rapido W&U coach will make a complete W&U GER train more feasible. But, of course, it all really depends on the economics of production runs. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted June 1, 2022 Author Share Posted June 1, 2022 17 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Morning Chris, Rapido are now releasing the Dynometer car, previously a Rails of Sheffield exclusive. Would this not be an option for Model Rail. With due regard to the L&NER modellers smongst us, perhaps Rapido could release the BR versions with Model Rail retaining a run in GER blue ? However, I think either pre-grouping livery would sell well, especially if supported by the W&U coach now going through the design/production stages. Rob. It would depend entirely on what the original contract arrangements were, as to who can do what with the tools and when. Very early on in the project I did suggest a boxed set of loco and tramcar in GER livery. However, the costs of tooling the coach made it prohibitive at that time. (CJL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted June 3, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2022 On 02/06/2022 at 00:03, dibber25 said: It would depend entirely on what the original contract arrangements were, as to who can do what with the tools and when. Very early on in the project I did suggest a boxed set of loco and tramcar in GER livery. However, the costs of tooling the coach made it prohibitive at that time. (CJL) Perhaps, though probably not high on the agenda, given the time that these things probably take is the time right for such conversations to be had ? Surely the commercial opportunities for sales of the W&U coach would be better with suitable motive power being available at the same time. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Johan DC Posted June 3, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 3, 2022 Just bought the Rapido J70, and what a beauty! I hesitated to buy one because of Brexit-related extra costs to have it send over, but glad my father could bring it over. It's one of the best, if not the best 0-6-0T out there. Looking forward to some W&U coaches! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted June 3, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Johan DC said: Just bought the Rapido J70, and what a beauty! I hesitated to buy one because of Brexit-related extra costs to have it send over, but glad my father could bring it over. It's one of the best, if not the best 0-6-0T out there. Looking forward to some W&U coaches! They are rather nice, aren't they. I had two but moved them on. However, I regretted it and now have two other examples. My first two were indifferent runners to be honest but the two I have now are much better. I just need to weather them now....but at least they have a nice home to play in. Rob Edited June 3, 2022 by NHY 581 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 4 hours ago, NHY 581 said: They are rather nice, aren't they. I had two but moved them on. However, I regretted it and now have two other examples. My first two were indifferent runners to be honest but the two I have now are much better. I just need to weather them now....but at least they have a nice home to play in. Rob I like the grey liveried version. *ducks* Jason 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted July 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2022 On 12/06/2021 at 18:47, EHertsGER said: So here they both are in as finished a state as I have them right now. I am sure subtle details will emerge in the cruel light of the camera, but I did promise, so here they are. In summary, on the left is the Raipdo J70 and on the right is a Y6 from the D&S kit. Y6s are hard to find right now as the D&S kit and the Connoisseur kit (which the decals also fit) are out of production. However, there is, I believe, one available on Shapeways, but I have not tried the decals’ fit to that one. I have enough already! The Rapido J70 above the blue is ‘out of the box’; I wasn’t going to make this harder than necessary and so for ‘varnished teak’ it will have to do. The Y60 uses Precision dark teak. I have no number plates for the J70 as I am modelling it. Reference to Peter Paye’s book on the W&U will give numbers and their build dates - several of the J70s never saw blue livery, going straight to crimson and grey. Others duplicated old Y6 numbers. For those who don’t fancy painting the skirts, 138 was seen in at least one photograph with black skirts so all you need are the decals if you don’t mind black buffer shanks. The skirts have been colour-matched to the decals using Revell 51 gloss ultramarine straight out of the tin - no mixing etc - and airbrushed the flat gloss over the lot. Lettering is from the existing Fox range. I have a very small number of sets left - see above for their search name on that auction site. £12 post included (yes, from NY!) best, Marcus Hi Marcus, any chance you might be able to re-upload these pics that were lost in the forum crash, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonCharivari Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Some interesting news for the GER devotees on this thread. I've got the @EHertsGERtransfer set to convert my current J70 to the GER blue, but that grey version is calling to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I hate to approach controllers again. I just received my copy of a J70 in wartime NE black & brown, full skirts. The only controller I have handy is an aging MRC Tech II 2500. I can't find a straight answer anywhere if it's considered feedback or not. I've avoided it so far, as it makes the motors hum in my Trix V188. Does anyone here have any experience with coreless motors and MRC 'Tech' controllers? All I've found elsewhere is condemnation of the '1300' series controllers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 J70 from Alan Wheelers Collection 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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