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Garethp8873

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Rapido and Model Rail should be proud of themselves. Whilst I am still waiting for the other three LNER examples (which is giving my bank balance time to breathe), this has given me time to just be wowed by what I have so far. Absolutely stunning models whichever livery you have :)

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Something that I was surprised by and hadn’t seen talked about much was the fact that the skirted version does include rods, slidebars and crosshead etc. even if it’s not the full set of valve gear! Astonishing.

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1 hour ago, MarkSG said:

 

The instruction booklet says that the prototype of my model, number 68222, was allocated to Yarmouth and Ipswich rather than Wisbech. That's a slight blow for realism, since my layout is based on the W&U. But, to be honest, since it's based on a fictitious reimagining of the W&U (because I need an excuse to have a yard shared with mainline locos without modelling Wisbech itself, for which I don't have space), that's not really a problem. I'm sure I can find space for a reallocation on my modeller's licence.

 

 

Definitely used on the W&U. Top photo here is apparently at Inglethorpe Hall.

 

https://www.lner.info/locos/J/j70.php

 

It's allocations are here.

 

http://brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&type=S&id=601070008&loco=128

 

 

 

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Yes, that's the bungalows across from Inglethorpe Hall. The bungalows are still there and there's a wide gravel pavement outside them. It's likely they all worked on the W&U at some point but some were photographed on it much more than others. I have a complete listing of all the J70s featured in photographs of the W&U in the five reference books that I've got. Ref Corbs' post above, there's a square access flap midway along the side skirting - I guess for oiling or sandbox access without lifting the whole side skirt. This flap seems to be missing in quite a few photos. I'm going to see if I can open it up on the model so that there's at least a glimpse of moving valve gear. Also 68225 was photographed on the W&U in the early 1950s (in several different pictures) with cowcatchers but no side skirts and it clearly ran in that form for some time. So, there's a good excuse for anyone who wants to run a shirtless model on the tramway. Despite the rules, it clearly did happen. And there's no need for anyone to apologise for weathering one. The factory finish is a bit pristine. As I can't weather the office samples, I've bought one so that I can dirty it up. You'll notice in that picture of 68222 at Inglethorpe, that she has white (or was it the pink wood primer of the period?) window frames that are somewhat thicker than the originals and were presumably home made replacements. This was one of the detail variations that we couldn't tool for. She seems to have received them piecemeal - there's a photo with one 'new' and one 'old' window but I haven't been able to ascertain whether both ends had replacement windows eventually. 

(CJL)

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10 hours ago, Steamport Southport said:

 

Definitely used on the W&U. Top photo here is apparently at Inglethorpe Hall.

 

https://www.lner.info/locos/J/j70.php

 

Ah, good spot. I've read that page numerous times without realising that it's a photo of "my" J70 :)

 

It actually looks remarkably clean in that photo - the window frames look nice and white, the number and crest are clear and, although it's hard to tell from a monochrome photo, the wooden body is a fairly pale colour which suggests it's a lot cleaner than the smoke-blackened one on Colour-Rail.

 

But I wonder, too, if that's a posed photo, especially given that there's no rolling stock and the way the crew are deliberately making themselves visible. There's no date on it, but it could well have been just after the BR livery was applied, which would have necessitated a clean-up anyway.

 

I'll definitely have to do the windows on mine to match the ones in that photo!

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10 hours ago, dibber25 said:

 You'll notice in that picture of 68222 at Inglethorpe, that she has white (or was it the pink wood primer of the period?) window frames that are somewhat thicker than the originals and were presumably home made replacements.

 

..... or, quite possibly, plain bare wood.

 

That's how I've always interpreted photos of 68222 in that condition, anyway.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

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Further to my previous post...

 

The photo on this page is, apparently, also of 68222 a few years previously.

 

https://www.lner.info/co/GER/wisbech/wisbech.php

 

But that really does look filthy, and in poor condition - it's missing a window, and the wood is a lot darker but the frame is lighter (indicating a build-up of dust and dirt). There's also no BR crest - in fact, there's no obvious livery at all. So the difference, almost certainly, is that the later photo follows a spruce-up as part of the new livery application.

 

That actually gives me a reasonable excuse to run it in near-pristine condition, since my version has the crest and I'm planning to set the layout in an era when that would have been correct to assume it has only recently been applied (or near-correct; I'm not going to worry too much about a year or so either way). Some light weathering will certainly be appropriate, but it won't need to look as dishevelled as it is in some photos.  

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Let me tell you a story. (Most of you will already know it, no doubt). The tramway was dieselised in 1952 with two (later Class 04) 0-6-0 diesel shunters. When they both failed in 1953, No. 68222 was returned to the tramway. She worked through to Upwell but on arrival was low on water. The crew were alarmed to find that the Upwell water tank had already been removed. Rev. Wilbert Awdry loaned them the hosepipe from the vicarage (would you believe my spellchecker just changed vicarage to viagra!). There's a picture (pic 118 - no folios in this book) near the back of the Middleton Press 'Branch line to Upwell') Thus, 68222 was the last recorded J70 to work the tramway. (CJL)

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2 hours ago, Sir TophamHatt said:

I made a quick unboxing video:

 

 

It's not neat, it's not professional, but it's not that bad.
Probably the first and last I'll ever do.

Great to see whats inside. Is that white block a pre-built in Sound Speaker? Or something else?

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4 hours ago, south_tyne said:

Well done to Model Rail and Rapido - the finished tram looks exquisite. I think we're going to see a rash of W&U based layouts in the near future... and that can only be a good thing! :good_mini:

 

Haha, funny you should say that I'm currently in the works of building one myself, rather than going down the Peco Bullhead track path, thanks to Model Rail Magazine No.257 from Micro-layout No.1 I'm having a go at hand built track. And I look forward to the results and hopefully sharing them on here if that's alright. :)

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4 hours ago, Norton Wood said:

 

Haha, funny you should say that I'm currently in the works of building one myself, rather than going down the Peco Bullhead track path, thanks to Model Rail Magazine No.257 from Micro-layout No.1 I'm having a go at hand built track. And I look forward to the results and hopefully sharing them on here if that's alright. :)

 

Be sure to share! I for one would love to see how you get on in building a home for your new tram engine :good_mini: the more W&U layouts we see the better from my point of view.

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5 hours ago, ExplosiveCookie said:

It was going to happen eventually! What I believe to be the first Toby with the Rapido model - still a work in progress and will get a generous weathering - really looking forward to that part!

Hope this doesn't ruffle too many feathers, haha.

DSC_1644.jpg

 

I’m surprised you beat Corbs to it, though that is a very fetching shade of blue.

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8 hours ago, ExplosiveCookie said:

It was going to happen eventually! What I believe to be the first Toby with the Rapido model - still a work in progress and will get a generous weathering - really looking forward to that part!

Hope this doesn't ruffle too many feathers, haha.

 

 

I'd almost decided against doing it on my one but you've just made me reconsider that!

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I know of two colour published photographs of J70, 68223 looking in reasonable condition at Wisbech by Roy Vincent (Steam in East Anglia by Dick Riley) and 68225 at Stratford for scrap (On Great Eastern Lines by Peter Swinger). The later photo isn't that well reproduced compared with the copy slide I have.

 

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Lovely exterior, and an exemplar in tidy mechanism and DCC provision arrangements inside. Class job. I have read elsewhere that the accompanying booklet is much appreciated too.

 

23 hours ago, Bishop of Welchester said:

So glad I live in a Rectory, but maybe your spellchecker would change that to rectum.

My wife sitting in the Diocesan office on their new Win 10 cloud oriented platform recently installed found in the query she was answering for a researcher that the spillchucker had obliged with "we do not have a precise date for his appointment as cannon, the alternative correct title in that year would have been rectum".

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