RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted March 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2021 49 minutes ago, TomScrut said: I thought the conversion took place while the 67s were in charge. I have however acknowledged the one off set in my previous post. A quick rat through Flickr looking for slam door non Banbury set (can't see any) lead to the following which I may as well post given for @cbrooks122000 I was searching anyway. Search/post is not exhaustive (exhausting maybe). Here's another pic with the Banbury slam door set This is something that could be recreated in part with some digging on ebay, Hornby did the Pretendolino coaches but they aren't cheap on the second-hand market I think this is doable with a bit of artistic license on the wagons (I don't think these are available?). SL45s and Megafrets (both used by DRS) are made by Dapol. MRA wagons, made by Dapol and available second hand (about £200 for 5) JNAs and a mixture of assorted ex EWS wagons (I have a rake similar to this with Dapol JNAs and Hornby Coalfishes). Probably a few Hornby Coalfishes still in shops, the JNAs will probably be secondhand market now. IOAs, also from Dapol (new run just announced so available for pre order) FNA wagons, from Bachmann, 37 from Bachmann or Accurascale. A charter made of a mix of all sorts Credits for pics in the Flickr links. Chiltern leased the class 68s from December 2014, the first plug door mark 3s set was introduced on 28th May 2018. Roy Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: Chiltern leased the class 68s from December 2014, the first plug door mark 3s set was introduced on 28th May 2018. Roy Roy Are you sure? The pic I post above (quote below) is from 2014. Unless I am missing something! 3 hours ago, TomScrut said: This is what they are like: And this article from 2012 saying about their introduction https://www.railwaygazette.com/passenger/chiltern-railways-puts-refurbished-mk-iii-coaches-into-service/36974.article Edited March 21, 2021 by TomScrut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted March 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, TomScrut said: Are you sure? The pic I post above (quote below) is from 2014. Unless I am missing something! And this article from 2012 saying about their introduction https://www.railwaygazette.com/passenger/chiltern-railways-puts-refurbished-mk-iii-coaches-into-service/36974.article Perhaps I am going mad! I'll shut up Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: Perhaps I am going mad! I'll shut up Roy I thought I was! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 21 hours ago, TomScrut said: This is what they are like: I believe the door conversion was done before the 68s were in use, but willing to be proven otherwise. The above left in for completeness but was written blissfully unaware of the below. Unless you're on about this? I wasn't aware of its existence, but it is called the Banbury/commuter set. Runs (ran?) from Banbury to London during weekdays. This thread may be of use. I’m glad you left the top picture in. It is a lovely livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfreight1998 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 On 21/03/2021 at 18:26, TomScrut said: I think this is doable with a bit of artistic license on the wagons (I don't think these are available?). SL45s and Megafrets (both used by DRS) are made by Dapol. The wagons in that image are megafrets. IKA megafrets and the IDAs are the only intermodal wagons DRS currently use I think. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIRCLASS80 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Dapol's 68 look sharp waiting for MK5 TPE. 7 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) Supposedly a new run announced today (KMRC on Facebook) 4D-022-019 Class 68 Fearless 68016 DRS Compass 4D-022-019D Class 68 Fearless 68016 DRS Compass DCC Fitted 4D-022-020 Class 68 Vigilant 68018 DRS Compass 4D-022-020D Class 68 Vigilant 68018 DRS Compass DCC Fitted 4D-022-021 Class 68 Splendid 68027 TransPennine Express 4D-022-021D Class 68 Splendid 68027 TransPennine Express DCC Fitted 4D-022-022 Class 68 Felix 68031 TransPennine Express 4D-022-022D Class 68 Felix 68031 TransPennine Express DCC Fitted Good that they are doing some more. I'd have thought they'd have maybe done 33 since it's the only Mk5 compatible DRS liveried one left to do, and 6 or 7 in their post ScotRail colours. Edited April 23, 2021 by TomScrut 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted April 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 23, 2021 51 minutes ago, TomScrut said: Supposedly a new run announced today (KMRC on Facebook) 4D-022-019 Class 68 Fearless 68016 DRS Compass 4D-022-019D Class 68 Fearless 68016 DRS Compass DCC Fitted 4D-022-020 Class 68 Vigilant 68018 DRS Compass 4D-022-020D Class 68 Vigilant 68018 DRS Compass DCC Fitted 4D-022-021 Class 68 Splendid 68027 TransPennine Express 4D-022-021D Class 68 Splendid 68027 TransPennine Express DCC Fitted 4D-022-022 Class 68 Felix 68031 TransPennine Express 4D-022-022D Class 68 Felix 68031 TransPennine Express DCC Fitted Good that they are doing some more. I'd have thought they'd have maybe done 33 since it's the only Mk5 compatible DRS liveried one left to do, and 6 or 7 in their post ScotRail colours. I think the subtlety of 68033 will be lost on 99% of those that purchase these and that Dapol are probably more swayed by names... Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: I think the subtlety of 68033 will be lost on 99% of those that purchase these and that Dapol are probably more swayed by names... Roy The subtlety of 034 was not lost on quite a lot of us in this thread IIRC. It was definitely one of the reasons I bought it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted April 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 23, 2021 When Dapol said they would be doing the whole fleet they weren't joking. Fortunately my two renumbers, Lord President and Black Douglas are safe for a bit longer... With 5 TPE I think i’m done... If I pushed my self, Felix, but i’d kick one from the nest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted April 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 23, 2021 4 hours ago, TomScrut said: The subtlety of 034 was not lost on quite a lot of us in this thread IIRC. It was definitely one of the reasons I bought it. Yes, but that is part of the point, RMWeb is not representative of 99% of the buying public. Here you have a dedicated bunch* who try to recreate the world as close as possible, beyond RMWeb that is often not the case. * I am not even convinced that many on RMWeb would care whether their DRS 68 was the one that could couple to Mk5s. Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Whilst waiting for it's Mk.5 coaches, my TPE 68 is hauling the rake of Hornby Coronation coaches - strangely there's no problem!! Al. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 35 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: Yes, but that is part of the point, RMWeb is not representative of 99% of the buying public. Here you have a dedicated bunch* who try to recreate the world as close as possible, beyond RMWeb that is often not the case. * I am not even convinced that many on RMWeb would care whether their DRS 68 was the one that could couple to Mk5s. Roy Maybe not, but why rule yourself out of a particular option? Do people really care that much about named locos vs not named? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 This was a bit of a surprise to me, I know the last batch of TPE sold quickly but wonder whether there is a demand for more, especially the DRS Compass blue pair, but we will see.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold AndrueC Posted April 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Roy Langridge said: Yes, but that is part of the point, RMWeb is not representative of 99% of the buying public. Here you have a dedicated bunch* who try to recreate the world as close as possible, beyond RMWeb that is often not the case. * I am not even convinced that many on RMWeb would care whether their DRS 68 was the one that could couple to Mk5s. Roy Um. Yeah. I'm one of that other 99%. I just want 'trains on tracks' and in the case of diesels I just like them to look pretty. Sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 34 minutes ago, AndrueC said: Um. Yeah. I'm one of that other 99%. I just want 'trains on tracks' and in the case of diesels I just like them to look pretty. Sorry And does it having a nameplate on dictate if it is pretty or not? That's simply the point I am making. Why pick one of the generic DRS ones rather than a DRS one that does the generic DRS stuff and pull coaches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted April 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 23, 2021 6 hours ago, martin_l_jones said: This was a bit of a surprise to me, I know the last batch of TPE sold quickly but wonder whether there is a demand for more, especially the DRS Compass blue pair, but we will see.... Looking at summer -autumn.. weve got 24/1, 25, 31, 33, 43, 45/1, 46, 55, 56, 60, 68, 86/4, 87, 91, 92, 150/2, 156. I’m sure some one will out a few 37/47.... I have to wonder if theres too much coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 6 hours ago, adb968008 said: Looking at summer -autumn.. weve got 24/1, 25, 31, 33, 43, 45/1, 46, 55, 56, 60, 68, 86/4, 87, 91, 92, 150/2, 156. I’m sure some one will out a few 37/47.... I have to wonder if theres too much coming. Somethings got to give, probably everyone's wallets !! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkchinaclay Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, adb968008 said: Looking at summer -autumn.. weve got 24/1, 25, 31, 33, 43, 45/1, 46, 55, 56, 60, 68, 86/4, 87, 91, 92, 150/2, 156. I’m sure some one will out a few 37/47.... I have to wonder if theres too much coming. I don’t need examples of half of these classes as I am not a collector, and my layout is very modern (post 2014) and i am very selective in what I choose and “need” to purchase. I don’t have a 68 yet and missed out on a sound fitted one from the first batch because I had other priorities, so I for one will be getting one of the new batch (68016 if it makes any difference). Having a few Accurascale 37s on order i am only looking to purchase (one) class 60 from those so far announced if Hornby don’t mess it up as I don’t have one of those yet either. I imagine there will still be plenty of buyers here for the BR blue period class 24/25, 45 and 55 models that are coming though this year. Edited April 24, 2021 by norfolkchinaclay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 7 hours ago, adb968008 said: Looking at summer -autumn.. weve got 24/1, 25, 31, 33, 43, 45/1, 46, 55, 56, 60, 68, 86/4, 87, 91, 92, 150/2, 156. I’m sure some one will out a few 37/47.... I have to wonder if theres too much coming. And 390s and 800s relevant to the modern scene where the 68 buyers will likely be. Whether said somebody also does some new 90s and 158s (here's hoping) is also maybe a factor. I do however get the impression Dapol are happy enough to do a run of something and wait until it disappears and then do another run. Some of the last 68s hung around for a while didn't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted April 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2021 1 hour ago, norfolkchinaclay said: I don’t need examples of half of these classes as I am not a collector, and my layout is set post 2014 and i am very selective in what I choose and “need” to purchase. I dipped out on a sound fitted class 68 from the first batch because I had other priorities, so I for one will be getting one of these (68016 if it makes any difference). Having a few Accurascale 37s on order i am only looking to purchase (one) class 60 from those so far announced if Hornby don’t mess it up as I don’t have one of those yet either. I imagine there will still be plenty of buyers here for the BR blue period class 24/25 and 55 models that are coming though. That is why that list is not as bad as it first looks. For many half is irrelevant as it is the wrong era. For me, no interest in the 60, 68, 92, 150/2 and 156 as they are too late. I also don’t have the wires to want any of the electrics. Suddenly a list of 17 is cut to 9. Of those, several have been known about for several years, so are budgeted for. Only really Hornby’s announcements have to be funded at shorter notice. Roy 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, norfolkchinaclay said: I don’t need examples of half of these classes as I am not a collector, and my layout is set post 2014 and i am very selective in what I choose and “need” to purchase. Same here. The upcoming 24, 25, 31, 45, 46, 56 and 87 releases don't clash with the 68 from a timeline perspective. I know the loco classes do but not the particular ones coming up. Edited April 24, 2021 by TomScrut 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkchinaclay Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TomScrut said: I do however get the impression Dapol are happy enough to do a run of something and wait until it disappears and then do another run. Some of the last 68s hung around for a while didn't they? That seems to be their tactic as borne out by the recent announcement of more IOAs and MJAs. Suits me as I do not have any of the former yet and only have two MJAs to date as my layout didn’t warrant any more. Now with the Accurascale short HYAs on the way it’s forced me to consider what my next layout is going to be as definitely going to need more sidings! Edited April 24, 2021 by norfolkchinaclay 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted April 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2021 Rather than more 68’s i’d like to see some 59’s myself. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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