The Western Master Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Here's a pic of the 3D King print shown at Warley: DSCN0206.JPG G. V. nice. Money well spent I feel if the quality is this good at prototype stage... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted November 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2018 What's with hideous front coupling, I can't believe anyone would run a King tender first on a layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowwolflair Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 This has already been covered several pages back and it wont be a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 28, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2018 What's with hideous front coupling, I can't believe anyone would run a King tender first on a layout. What about people that model preserved lines with no turntable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowwolflair Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) What about people that model preserved lines with no turntable? And running with a pilot loco Or two kings or three kings Edited November 28, 2018 by Snowwolflair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted November 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2018 What about people that model preserved lines with no turntable? And running with a pilot loco Or two kings or three kings Fair enough, put me on the naughty step. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted November 29, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 29, 2018 And running with a pilot loco I thought when double heading the GWR put the pilot between the train loco and the train. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Reading_General_double-headed_geograph-2905648-by-Ben-Brooksbank.jpg Steven B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowwolflair Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 A quick Google search also found this quote "Do not be misled by 'model railway experts' saying the GWR always put assistant engines on passenger trains inside the train engine - that is a very misleading representation of a far more complex picture which depended on the size of engine of driving wheels, the engine's wheel arrangement, and whatever sorts of assistant were authorised at particular places. Gradients were particularly relevant in that generally - and I suspect with only very rare exceptions or only over very short distances - it was not permitted to assist passenger trains from the rear over falling gradients. Equally there were restrictions on the manner of assisting freights if there were any particular sections of rising gradient which involved a falling gradient." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Apparently double headed kings were quite possible heading from Newton Abbot to Plymouth. At some point during the 1950s it was normal to take the king off the down Cornish Riviera at Newton Abbot and replace it with a pair of locos that could be used all the way to Penzance. The spare king would then work down to Plymouth by double heading the next westbound express to Plymouth. If the train engine from Paddington was a king on that next express then there would be double headed kings. So we all need to buy two kings! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I thought when double heading the GWR put the pilot between the train loco and the train. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Reading_General_double-headed_geograph-2905648-by-Ben-Brooksbank.jpg Steven B. This has already been covered further up the thread. In BR days it seems the pilot loco mostly went on the front, as numerous photos attest to. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 29, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2018 Fair enough, put me on the naughty step. No need togo to the naughty step Rob - the working of two 'King' Class engines coupled together was not permitted prior to October 1948 and it was never permitted to run more than two 'Kings' coupled together. So in ANTB times it would only be a single 'King' so you're spot on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 29, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2018 A quick Google search also found this quote "Do not be misled by 'model railway experts' saying the GWR always put assistant engines on passenger trains inside the train engine - that is a very misleading representation of a far more complex picture which depended on the size of engine of driving wheels, the engine's wheel arrangement, and whatever sorts of assistant were authorised at particular places. Gradients were particularly relevant in that generally - and I suspect with only very rare exceptions or only over very short distances - it was not permitted to assist passenger trains from the rear over falling gradients. Equally there were restrictions on the manner of assisting freights if there were any particular sections of rising gradient which involved a falling gradient." Ooh, I just love being quoted. (even if Google didn't ask me) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Kynaston Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Hi All, While having a few quick wanders around the farthest reaches of the Internet, I looked at the DJ Models website, and see Dave has posted either yesterday or today, some pictures of the 3D printed King. https://djmodels.co.uk/n-gauge-king-in-print Richard 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Looks very nice. Recognisable as GWR condition before the various upgrades BR gave the class in their final decade. It confirms that the CAD seems to have captured the proportions of the prototype very well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 2, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2019 Looks very nice. Recognisable as GWR condition before the various upgrades BR gave the class in their final decade. It confirms that the CAD seems to have captured the proportions of the prototype very well. Good proportions but later pattern steam pipe to the outside cylinders and what on the tender looks remarkably like the electronics box for TPWS etc . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted January 2, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2019 I think this was printed 25% larger to allow the details to be easier checked, if I remember correctly? Overall it shows great promise, although I do spy recesses for the cabside number plates Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I think this was printed 25% larger to allow the details to be easier checked, if I remember correctly? 10% larger according to the DJM King newsletter #2 (Oct). G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Good proportions but later pattern steam pipe to the outside cylinders and what on the tender looks remarkably like the electronics box for TPWS etc . Which bit is the TPWS box? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2019 Which bit is the TPWS box? The rectangular box on the back of the tender next to the dome. It's on the present mainline cleared engine which was used for the original scanning at Didcot but it is a 'new age' addition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellseasoned Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Well they say no news is good news. However, I cannot be alone in craving for just a few snippets of info'....can I? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Aus Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I'm assuming by the lack of news means the required target still has not been met yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpgibbons Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 More than that, I would assume that there has not been much movement on the order numbers. Trouble is, there is no funding deadline and no incentive to risk a deposit until we get close to critical numbers. DJM's lack of fulfilment on other projects is a further dampener. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 He cannot come up with news every few weeks. These projects take at least a few months between steps. On the other hand, the marketing effort seems a little low. Unless you know DJM or the RMweb, you are not likely to hear about the project. Maybe his next show, a few weeks away will bring some news and/or make some additional people aware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I suspect stuff is happening behind the scenes. Remember we have just had Christmas and new year whilst Chinese new year is in 2 weeks, both of which are probably slowing things down. I am sure Dave will share more info with us when he has stuff worth sharing. Remember that we have been spoiled by Dave's level of interaction in the past compared to the likes of Bachmann. Whilst a blow-by-blow account of progress would be nice, I am happy to accept that work is progressing and we will find out more when there is something substantial to update us about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpgibbons Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Perhaps I'm mistaken but I understood that this project would not go to tooling until it had enough orders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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