Swindon 123 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Hi, this link appears not to work. It works for me Robert. The only other one I can suppy is this one, which may or may not work? <a data-flickr-embed="true" data-header="true" data-footer="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/150400961@N07/albums/72157693089061655"title="Kings Cross Station"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4621/40106015801_77cd5a462b_c.jpg" width="800" height="515" alt="Kings Cross Station"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 From the 1972 Sectional Appendix: Electric Lamps in Gas Works Tunnel................situated at intervals of 25 yards........... Electric lamps in Hotel Curve Tunnel................situated at intervals of approximately 10 yards....... The photo in this link, https://flic.kr/p/2327iEq seems to show a light on in Hotel Curve Tunnel. If you look at it in very high resolution, you can see the catch point at the end of the platform and the check rails to stop a derailed train contacting the tunnel wall. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Paul, The first link, Anddroid OS,produces this: Second one works though. ps looked on the six bells junction site and couldn't find the Trans-Pennine railtour to Hornsey that I 'spotted' yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Paul, The first link, Anddroid OS,produces this: Screenshot_2018-05-28-10-12-20.png Second one works though. ps looked on the six bells junction site and couldn't find the Trans-Pennine railtour to Hornsey that I 'spotted' yesterday Thanks for the info Andy. The fact I have a Flickr account, and possibly that Flickr is in the process of being taken over, may account for my first link not working for some peaple. Glad the second one works though, because the album has some cracking shots on it in very high resolution as well. ps looked on the six bells junction site and couldn't find the Trans-Pennine railtour to Hornsey that I 'spotted' yesterday Late traffic notice for a special to cater for Leeds fans travelling to see their side play Arsenal in the FA cup semi final replay. That's our story for the record. Paul J. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Hi, this link appears not to work. It works for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 28, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 28, 2018 (edited) To add to the information on the signalling at Kings Cross here are some pages from the 1971 route learning book. Unfortunately they do not show the Down signals from the platforms to Gas Works Tunnel. The track plan is the revised one from the late forties until 1977. Edited May 28, 2018 by Clive Mortimore 7 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 (edited) It works for me Robert. The only other one I can suppy is this one, which may or may not work? <a data-flickr-embed="true" data-header="true" data-footer="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/150400961@N07/albums/72157693089061655"title="Kings Cross Station"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4621/40106015801_77cd5a462b_c.jpg" width="800" height="515" alt="Kings Cross Station"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Paul J. EDIT: just after I posted to say it still didn't work, the original link suddenly worked fine when I tried it again. Edited May 28, 2018 by robertcwp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I have done a scan of the whole 1968 route learning book King's Cross-Hitchin: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7wNtUp2bp_eZnE5eE5DY0E1dnc 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I have done a scan of the whole 1968 route learning book King's Cross-Hitchin: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7wNtUp2bp_eZnE5eE5DY0E1dnc That makes for very interesting reading Robert. So different to when I was rattling up and down there between 1979 to 84. Thank you for sharing. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 I have a slightly later Hertford Loop one too: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7wNtUp2bp_ebDVjaXl6UkgxbjQ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 I have a slightly later Hertford Loop one too: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7wNtUp2bp_ebDVjaXl6UkgxbjQ Another fascinating read Robert. Thank you for sharing. I didn't relise just how much had disappeared before I started on the footplate there. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 08221 Posted August 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 25, 2018 There is a good article in the latest edition of “Rail” about the widened lines. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted June 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just resurrecting this thread as I found an interesting video only recently uploaded to Youtube A chap walking the York road to Met tunnel showing the Western tunnel entrance, as well as walking the section into KX Thameslink showing the Hotel curve tunnel entrance. Although he panned the camera around, I couldn't see any remains in the lining brickwork that would have shown where the Western tunnel crossed over the Widened lines. 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted June 28, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2019 Thanks for the link Chris. Interesting video. As he says he's not sure of the history. It would appear that he walked the full length of the York Road to widened lines tunnel. Part wY down he saw the entrance to the hotel curve that lead to the widened lines. Then on his way back from St Pancras he sW the western end of the hotel curve that was full of location cabinets, then just west of the old Kings X Thameslink station he videoed the ntrance to the tunnel that came up by the suburban platforms at Kings X. The diamond crossing of that tunnel and the Hotel curve wasn't on hus video and I don't think he walked any of the actual Hotel curve. However a very interesting video. Jamie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) This link here shows what the other line was branching away from the York Road tunnel, appeared to cross Hotel Curve on a flat crossing was oou by 1874 and was known as Maidens Lane Curve https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/kx-thameslink-old-tunnel.52880/page-2 And how about this map, it's a doozy link for the pic which self embedded, 'http://d240vprofozpi.cloudfront.net/co/GNR/kingsx_map1874.png Edited June 28, 2019 by woodenhead 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted June 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2019 The thing that he saw at 13:48 (ish) and thought it was another tube tunnel is actually the River Fleet. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted June 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2019 6 hours ago, jamie92208 said: The diamond crossing of that tunnel and the Hotel curve wasn't on hus video and I don't think he walked any of the actual Hotel curve. I don't think any of Hotel Curve is now accessible as it is blocked top and bottom, I think it was used to divert a sewer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted June 28, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2019 Thanks Chris. The map makes sense of it. I had mistakenley called the Maiden Lane curve , the Hotel curve. I have heard the Maiden Lane curve callec a very expensive cable duct. However from the pictures it looked as if the Hotel curve had been blocked off. Jamie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Resurrecting this topic, have just read in the December 1969 R.O.: "The regular service over the Metropolitan Widened Lines to the Southern Region was withdrawn on and from Monday 24th March, the last train being an Eastern Region parcels train from Holloway to London Bridge and back, late on Sunday evening 23rd March. (There was a service every day). The ER freight service and the LM service ceased some time previously." Edited March 10, 2020 by keefer 3 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) A little over twelve months later and all of this would be gone... 1976 Edited June 22, 2020 by montyburns56 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted August 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) This came up on my YouTube feed today. A walk through the tunnels from York Rd. station to Moorgate, by an authorised contractor. Haven't had time to watch it all yet but around 2:35, the N-W Maiden Lane Curve tunnel mouth can be seen. Edited August 9, 2020 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted August 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 9, 2020 34 minutes ago, keefer said: This came up on my YouTube feed today. A walk through the tunnels from York Rd. station to Moorgate, by an authorised contractor. Haven't had time to watch it all yet but around 2:35, the N-W Maiden Lane Curve tunnel mouth can be seen. Your feeds a bit slow, I posted it in June 2019 On 28/06/2019 at 12:03, chris p bacon said: Just resurrecting this thread as I found an interesting video only recently uploaded to Youtube A chap walking the York road to Met tunnel showing the Western tunnel entrance, as well as walking the section into KX Thameslink showing the Hotel curve tunnel entrance. Although he panned the camera around, I couldn't see any remains in the lining brickwork that would have shown where the Western tunnel crossed over the Widened lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted August 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 9, 2020 Ah sorry, couldn't remember seeing it before must've missed it at the time! Still, only a year late - good going for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 69541 Kings Cross 1957 by Geoff Dowling 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2021 69541 Kings Cross 1957 by Geoff Dowling Great shot. One of the late Peter Shoesmith's negatives in Geoff's custody. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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