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2 hours ago, rembrow said:

I have managed to square up the chassis on my 66125 EWS, as I had the same problem with two diagonally opposite bogie sides, meaning that 2/3 wheels were in the air at any one time. I covered this earlier in the thread, took me about 30 mins to cure with two fixes.

1. Careful filing of the metal bearing points on the chassis on the points above the bogies, where the wheels fully touched the ground. I took about 5 half strokes of a diamond model flat file, but test after each stroke. This reduces the high points on the chassis. 

2. Although after completing the filing at 1, the wheels were all on the level, one bogie side had a small gap to the chassis bearing point. I packed this with thinned down 10 thou plasticard, glued to the chassis bearing point.

The chassis and bogies are now absolutely straight and true on the track.

It is a lovely model and just purrs along. Well done Hattons, will certainly get a Freightliner when the main stock arrives.

I wonder if you could post a photo or two showing the parts you filed, so much easier to have an illustration to back up the description.

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51 minutes ago, 7013 said:

I wonder if you could post a photo or two showing the parts you filed, so much easier to have an illustration to back up the description.

I had to get a light source into position so I could get close up to the bogie side and the chassis above. The part in question is mid photo on the chassis, is lower than the rest of the chassis plate and appears to have a chain link moulded above its lowest point. The bogies sit against these lugs. Hope this helps. 

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Thank you rembrow, looks a straightforward fix without altering the look of the loco. Of course I am hoping I will not have to alter mine when they arrive.

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10 hours ago, 7013 said:

It is good that people be honest about being annoying etc. But, every opinion has its place and if we did not have a wide range of views it would be a boring world we live in. The Hattons 66 is one of the most highly anticipated models in a long time so there is bound to be a range of reactions. Far from being annoying etc. Peoples opinions help us to learn a bit more about the 66. I am no expert so when so when it is pointed out that something about the livery, windows, etc is not quite right I take notice and look. If we did not have the  input from those who drive them or follow them assiduously we would be In a less enriched group. So well done those who have apologised there really was no need, you added to the knowledge of the 66.

 

 

I just really hope that I didn't upset or offend anyone because that is never my intention when I post on here. This site is really good, friendly and supportive and allows so much information to be shared. I agree that with such a popular model of which their are hundreds of real life prototypes of, their was always bound to be a wide range of views and opinions regarding a new tool by a different manufacturer from the previous manufacturers. This is not specific to Hattons but this would have likely happened with any manufacturer. I know what you mean, I'm no expert either and I don't work on the railways at all but I do tend to notice things especially on the 66s mainly because I have seen so many of them and up close at Leeds Midland Road from the yard at the rear of the depot. I also spend a lot of time on Flickr either scrolling through photos of the real life prototypes or searching for specific locos and then I notice differences between individual locos. It's just something that I like doing as part of the hobby because so much can be learned just through looking at photos and examining the locos. The Class 66 is probably one of the most difficult models to portray accurately in model form just because of the amount of variations their is. The fact that Hattons have incorporated all of these variations into the tooling to correctly portray individual locos as per the prototypes is something that they should be highly praised for. Something that is also very impressive is that Hattons have changed the tooling for Biffa 66783 from when it was originally announced in 2018. At this point it had the three cab windows where as now after a visit to Longport this year it has the GBRf updated two cab windows and also wears grey around the windows where the modifications were done. For Hattons to update the model to incorporate both of these differences is brilliant. Comparing to Bachmann, I know that their have been occasions where the same modifications were done with GBRf 66s that they have announced and they didn't update the tooling before producing the model and thus the models already had slight inaccuracies to the prototypes from arrival. Obviously it wasn't an error but more of an inaccuracy that the tooling and final production models were not revised to accommodate these minor changes. This just shows that Hattons have been paying a lot of attention to the 66s in reality during 2018 & 2019 throughout the process of producing these models. Attention to detail on models and models been as up to date as possible is liked by customers so it's a nice touch by Hattons. 

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6 minutes ago, big jim said:

Your upsetting and offending me by bloody going on about it!

 

edit: sorry no wink emoji! 

 

 

Haha, you're very funny Jim. I do love it when people have a sense of humour. Another of the many benefits of this site. It has a great group of people on it and their is always a fair share of laughing, joking and tongue in cheek comments haha. 

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3 hours ago, DRS Crewe On A Mission said:

 

Haha, you're very funny Jim. I do love it when people have a sense of humour. Another of the many benefits of this site. It has a great group of people on it and their is always a fair share of laughing, joking and tongue in cheek comments haha. 

And stick pins in dolls when no one is looking:crazy_mini:

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Has anyone tested how slowly the new 66 can go - just had a short go of mine and it's truly amazing.

 

I think adb (??) I think posted a video of a Continental locomotive he has, which was impressive even if you could see the slight jerks between poles - I would say this 66 is the equal of that.

 

Al.

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23 hours ago, rembrow said:

I had to get a light source into position so I could get close up to the bogie side and the chassis above. The part in question is mid photo on the chassis, is lower than the rest of the chassis plate and appears to have a chain link moulded above its lowest point. The bogies sit against these lugs. Hope this helps. 

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Thanks for this, I think I’m going to tape some shim in first to see if it makes any difference.

 

I see you filed a taper on yours from front to back was this to enable the wheels to sit flat.

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Controversially , I’m not expecting to have to take a file to a brand new loco just to get a bogie to run flat.

 

If this is a trend , I’ll have to stick with Bachmann .

 

time will tell as more are delivered 

 

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13 minutes ago, rob D2 said:

Controversially , I’m not expecting to have to take a file to a brand new loco just to get a bogie to run flat.

 

If this is a trend , I’ll have to stick with Bachmann .

 

time will tell as more are delivered 

 

Be careful, you are not allowed to dis the 66,  the Hattons Fan Club will be around to duff you up.

Keep it to yourself, I dont want them coming after me.;)

 

This message will self destruct in 10 seconds.

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On ‎24‎/‎12‎/‎2019 at 15:03, WisTramwayMan said:

...The other thing that will only become clear, with time, is the reliability and technical back-up associated with this new version. Personally, I have always found the problem-free nature of most Bachmann products to be worth quite a bit, and certainly there are other locos coming from different manufacturers, some of whose past record is somewhat patchy, to challenge existing Bachmann ones; the same applies, I shall wait and see what is reported a few months down the road.

The upside is that these centre motor mechanisms have had plenty of development from makers of product for the North American HO market, which is intolerant of poor performance and reliability. What I have seen so far suggests that such models produced for OO have mechanisms unchanged in essentials from well proven designs. (It would be interesting to know which of current HO mechanisms this OO model derives from.)

 

 

1 hour ago, atom3624 said:

Has anyone tested how slowly the new 66 can go - just had a short go of mine and it's truly amazing.

 

I think adb (??) I think posted a video of a Continental locomotive he has, which was impressive even if you could see the slight jerks between poles - I would say this 66 is the equal of that...

To my mind once a model can realistically transition from stationary to dead slow, and likewise cease moving smoothly 'that's enough', and centre motor mechanisms combined with a feedback control system excel at this. (If anything, I am more concerned that model mechanisms deliver at least scale maximum speed with whatever the appropriate load behind may be. We have seen an example of a centre motor model from a now thankfully extinct brand reported as failing in this respect, and I had rather this idea didn't catch on!)

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Afternoon all,

 

I see that one or two people are having an issue with one of their Class 66 bogies not sitting 100% true on the track.

This is not something that I've experienced on any of our pre-production, production or QC samples.

I've been made aware of four people that have been in touch with our Helpdesk team regarding this and would advise anyone else experiencing a similar issue to do the same and we can then advise the best process to return your model for replacement. Our full returns page can be seen at: www.hattons.co.uk/returns

 

I hope this helps.

 

Cheers,

 

Dave

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Fantastic service once again!!

Should be on the Sherry by now Dave!!

 

Mine is only missing one thing, the driver ... that's it. The rest is just, well, perfect.

 

In relation to 34C above, I think there have been enough videos of the Hattons' 66 to see it can perform 100% as a 'scale prototype'.

66's maximum speed, depending on sub-type, is either 65 or 75mph.

 

This has been demonstrated on several occasions and what I've seen is in excess of this, with huge loads - greater than 20 Pullman carriages on one demo.

 

Al.

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13 minutes ago, marshy said:

anyoneknow how to turn rear lights off ive tried the underneath switches but they do nothing ?

 

Are you running DC, or DCC?

 

9 minutes ago, Pre Grouping fan said:

Is that not one of the internal switches? Should all be listed in the booklet or on the 66 page on the website. 

 

They are switchable with DCC 4 or 6 function decoders and switched with the underside switches in DC mode. (Switches are "on" for DCC switching)

The internal switches are for day/night headlight running

 

http://images.hattons.co.uk/mediaimages/General instructions - pdf.pdf

 

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16 hours ago, newbryford said:

 

Are you running DC, or DCC?

 

 

They are switchable with DCC 4 or 6 function decoders and switched with the underside switches in DC mode. (Switches are "on" for DCC switching)

The internal switches are for day/night headlight running

 

http://images.hattons.co.uk/mediaimages/General instructions - pdf.pdf

 

Hi Mick thanks for replying I am running on dc and have tried the switches underneath these don't seem to turn them off. Looking at the instructions there should be 3 switches but mine only has 2 and they are minute I will remove the body later and see what I can come up with 

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Has anyone bought any of the original green and/or powerhaul liveried Freightliner 66s? If so would anyone mind sharing some photos. 

 

I'm really undecided on what to buy in January. I like Freightliner 418, 502, 528, 587 & 957. But I also like GBRf Royal Scotsman 743 & 746. But their is no way that I can afford seven so I do need to narrow down my wishlist a bit more. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

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1 hour ago, DRS Crewe On A Mission said:

Has anyone bought any of the original green and/or powerhaul liveried Freightliner 66s? If so would anyone mind sharing some photos. 

 

I'm really undecided on what to buy in January. I like Freightliner 418, 502, 528, 587 & 957. But I also like GBRf Royal Scotsman 743 & 746. But their is no way that I can afford seven so I do need to narrow down my wishlist a bit more. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

I would recommend 957, but as you see from the logo in my sig', as a current SLS Director this is a rather biased plug!

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2 hours ago, DRS Crewe On A Mission said:

Has anyone bought any of the original green and/or powerhaul liveried Freightliner 66s? If so would anyone mind sharing some photos. 

 

I'm really undecided on what to buy in January. I like Freightliner 418, 502, 528, 587 & 957. But I also like GBRf Royal Scotsman 743 & 746. But their is no way that I can afford seven so I do need to narrow down my wishlist a bit more. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

Not sure how a couple of pics will help you decide which ones to pick. 

The original green ones are pretty much all the same, very little variation in the fleet save for the headlights but all these are covered in the listings on Hattons own website.

same with powerhaul really, only some slight variations in placement of the logos.

heres 528 for what its worth....

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