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5 minutes ago, newbryford said:

 

F0 controls the headlights/marker lights directionally with F0. (Headlight/marker light combo is selected by internal switches

F1 will control the reds at one end, F2 the other.

 

This means that you can quite happily turn the reds off when hauling a train - with F0 on and F1/F2 off.

Turn F0 off and F1 or F2 on and the loco can be the rear of a double head light engine move, or the rear of a top and tail.

Turn F0 off and turn F1 AND F2 on - parked up with reds at both ends.

 

All explained previously in the instructions for the 66

 

 

https://images.hattons.co.uk/mediaimages/General instructions - pdf.pdf

 

 

 

Sorry, wires crossed there as I thought you were on about the 90 in the post you quoted and thought "I aren't sure mine acts that way"!

 

Having read that manual I think first thing I would do is reprogram the decoder to make the lighting directional front and rear, with a function to switch each end off and then a parking function. That's how I have my Dapol 68s and Bachmann 221. Works very similar to how the Bachmann 90 works by default.

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7 minutes ago, TomScrut said:

 

Sorry, wires crossed there as I thought you were on about the 90 in the post you quoted and thought "I aren't sure mine acts that way"!

 

Nope - this is the 66 thread and I'm discussing the 66.

 

Unlike some other model loco threads that have gone wildly off into the blue yonder...........................

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15 minutes ago, newbryford said:

 

Nope - this is the 66 thread and I'm discussing the 66.

 

Unlike some other model loco threads that have gone wildly off into the blue yonder...........................

 

I did edit my post to add some relevance in the meantime!

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I notice on the website all sound versions are showing as sold out.

 

That Jan 31st statement sounds very open ended. 
Based on that, recent health events in China, CNY ramp up times, how messy, easy to fix the problem is, and assuming they've already been made and were awaiting shipping already, that if thousands if 66’s need to be fixed, plus finally shipping times.

 

It would be nice to hear a date, but if it was only a short delays, then presumably that Jan 31st statement would have said so.

 

I would not be surprised if the 66’s did not show for a good number of months, maybe even late summer.

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, adb968008 said:

I notice on the website all sound versions are showing as sold out.


Not alljust some liveries. 

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Double post - site soooo sloooow

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16 hours ago, TomScrut said:

 

Cool will have a look at that and see what's new vs the V4 which all my locos have at the moment.

 

I suppose once we get factory sound ones coming through all will be clear, even if it means sweeping through the CV logic tables to see how it is programmed.

 

Or a simple statement from Hattons on how the cab lights are setup :)

 

As noted previously, my 6-function decoder runs all of the external lights fine, per the manual... just not the cab lights, again as per the manual's statement that they won't work with 6-function decoders.

 

If a 10-function decoder will work it would not be overly difficult for them to let us know (with comment on logic level vs full output functions required).

 

All in all though, a lovely model. Even if I have had to glue on an axle cap, and struggle with the steps when taking the body off to fit the decoder!!! :blink:

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On 07/02/2020 at 17:09, Steveh145 said:

Hi Dave, function 0 only turns on the top marker light, and according to the instructions all the switches are as they should be, this is the second loco I have had that has had this issue (same model), just double checked and 0 only turns top marker light on, functions 1/2 tail lights and 3/4 other marker lights? Not sure whether there is an issue with this batch of loco

regarding the lighting? When I sent this back last time I did state it in my covering letter, would you be able to confirm before I return this for an exchange if there is an issue or I have been unlucky?

 

regards 

 

Steve

Hi Steve, I have checked a couple of our locos and it looks like the marker light has been put on the same function as the headlight, this is different from the specification and what we had on other samples so we will be taking it up with our vendor to see if there is a fix to make it run as it should. This affects codes ending: 010, 017, 019, 024, 026, 029 and 030.

If the marker light is not working with the headlights then there will be a fault with your model, in  which case get in touch and we can replace it for you.

Regarding the cab lights. They run on Aux 7 & Aux 10 front and rear on our Loksound 5 project. For other decoders, they are fed from pins 2 & 1 and are a logic function, this should help you get them working on other decoders. 

Cheers, 

Dave

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2 hours ago, Hattons Dave said:

 This affects codes ending: 010, 017, 019, 024, 026, 029 and 030.

 

Hello Hattons Dave, are you going to wait to release ALL 66 models at the same time or some earlier than others if only some are affected by problems?

 

Edward

 

 

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Hi Edward,

 

We won't wait to release models. We are not going to hold any models back and will release them as we are able to.

We'll be sure to provide an update regarding delivery on all models as soon as possible.

 

Cheers,

 

Dave

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Dave is the issue with the programming on the factory fit decoder or the wiring/circuit board?

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Hi Dave,

 

With the DCC Sound Fitted Class 66's does sold out on pre-order mean that I've missed the boat on that factory sound fitted loco/livery or will they be available again once all the pre-orders have been fulfilled?

 

Cheers

Steve

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1 minute ago, classy52 said:

Hi Dave,

 

With the DCC Sound Fitted Class 66's does sold out on pre-order mean that I've missed the boat on that factory sound fitted loco/livery or will they be available again once all the pre-orders have been fulfilled?

 

Cheers

Steve

 

I think I read somewhere that they could reshuffle stock but I might be wrong.

 

TBH I think they'd be mad not to sell the sound chip pre programmed on its own.

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1 minute ago, TomScrut said:

 

I think I read somewhere that they could reshuffle stock but I might be wrong.

 

TBH I think they'd be mad not to sell the sound chip pre programmed on its own.

 

Personally I think they would be mad to close the order book on the sold out factory sound fitted liveries but let's wait & see what Dave comes back with on this.

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22 minutes ago, classy52 said:

 

Personally I think they would be mad to close the order book on the sold out factory sound fitted liveries but let's wait & see what Dave comes back with on this.

 

Well actually I have just cancelled my ONE sound 66 as I decided I'd rather have two non sound for what extra it costs so if that's the one you're after crack on it may be available on the site now. So got a Cemex Express on order too now. And going to put 10 function decoders in them to get the lighting functions.

 

I was umming and aaahing about which other one to order. Celeb wise it was Cemex or BR, but I also want a GBRF Europorte at some point but I think I'm more likely to be able to pick one of them up when I fancy rather than pre order.

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22 minutes ago, TomScrut said:

 

Well actually I have just cancelled my ONE sound 66 as I decided I'd rather have two non sound for what extra it costs so if that's the one you're after crack on it may be available on the site now. So got a Cemex Express on order too now. And going to put 10 function decoders in them to get the lighting functions.

 

I was umming and aaahing about which other one to order. Celeb wise it was Cemex or BR, but I also want a GBRF Europorte at some point but I think I'm more likely to be able to pick one of them up when I fancy rather than pre order.

 

I'm looking for an appropriate GBRf Class 66 to haul my Accurascale Castle Cement PCA wagons and the DRS 66301 'Kingmoor TMD' for mainly Intermodal & ballast workings.

GBRf 'The Flying Dustman' seems to be available with sound even though it says sold out but the pre-order button is still active, ideally I would like GBRf 66789 with sound but too be honest I'm in no rush thus can wait until later in the year to purchase but just wanted to know if these will still be available with factory fitted sound beyond the pre-orders.

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55 minutes ago, classy52 said:

 

I'm looking for an appropriate GBRf Class 66 to haul my Accurascale Castle Cement PCA wagons.......

 

........ideally I would like GBRf 66789 


I’ll just leave this here for you 

 

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59 minutes ago, classy52 said:

 

I'm looking for an appropriate GBRf Class 66 to haul my Accurascale Castle Cement PCA wagons and the DRS 66301 'Kingmoor TMD' for mainly Intermodal & ballast workings.

GBRf 'The Flying Dustman' seems to be available with sound even though it says sold out but the pre-order button is still active, ideally I would like GBRf 66789 with sound but too be honest I'm in no rush thus can wait until later in the year to purchase but just wanted to know if these will still be available with factory fitted sound beyond the pre-orders.

 

I want a FL one to pull HIAs and Intermodals either on its own or in the case of Intermodals with my 90. So I ordered the pink one given its livery links to Intermodal and I like the livery.

 

I was torn for the GBRF one between a celeb and a normal one. Between the 2 I have on order and the 2 I have they are all celebs. The Bachmann ones are Evening Star and Harry Beck, and then ONE for reasons explained earlier and Cemex I went for because I am hoping somebody brings out some Cemex wagons sooner or later. I think 789 looks great but I think the idea of a Cemex rake if somebody makes the wagons tipped me over that side.

 

Such as this: 

The Cemex Express - 66780

 

 

Which makes an awesome looking rake IMO

 

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Just now, big jim said:


I’ll just leave this here for you 

 

A885071C-F644-4901-8686-F1F1F37180BD.jpg

 

Ooh you're a big tease :jester:...yep that's the one with the Castle Cement PCA's 

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1 minute ago, classy52 said:

 

Ooh you're a big tease :jester:...yep that's the one with the Castle Cement PCA's 

 

Loads of them pull Castle PCAs, although I know a lot of these in pics below aren't available from Hattons I would probably go as far as saying almost any GBRF 66 could be argued as being prototypical for modern day? Is there any reason why any one (or more) loco might not be used in the future for this even if there isn't a photo of it in the past? I use either of my aforementioned GBRF 66s with my PCAs and will use my new one with them too.

 

Interesting mention from the pics is 743 as it is probably the most versatile of the lot in terms of what to run it with?

 

Also there some older pics of DB/EWS with them on Flickr.

 

66718 - 6M35. 66770 (6V35) Class 66709 at Ruston Countryside 66743 (6S45) GBRf Class 66 66789-'British Rail 1948-1997' - Lostock Hall Junction.

 

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14 hours ago, TomScrut said:

Dave is the issue with the programming on the factory fit decoder or the wiring/circuit board?

 

Hi Tom 

 

It appears to be with the wiring in the loco itself.

I'm investigating this further and hope to be able to provide an update early next week.

 

14 hours ago, classy52 said:

Hi Dave,

 

With the DCC Sound Fitted Class 66's does sold out on pre-order mean that I've missed the boat on that factory sound fitted loco/livery or will they be available again once all the pre-orders have been fulfilled?

 

Cheers

Steve

 

Hi Steve

 

We have now sold out of several of the factory fitted versions but depending on which version you wanted we may have another still available in the same livery.

We do also have a small amount of Sure Sound decoders with Rail Rumble speakers available to purchase separately for people who would like to enhance a Digital Ready or Digital Fitted version of a particular locomotive.

If you would like to add one of these decoders to a non-sound version then you can get in touch with our Helpdesk on 0151 733 3655.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Cheers,

 

Dave

 

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43 minutes ago, Hattons Dave said:

Hi Steve

 

We have now sold out of several of the factory fitted versions but depending on which version you wanted we may have another still available in the same livery.

We do also have a small amount of Sure Sound decoders with Rail Rumble speakers available to purchase separately for people who would like to enhance a Digital Ready or Digital Fitted version of a particular locomotive.

If you would like to add one of these decoders to a non-sound version then you can get in touch with our Helpdesk on 0151 733 3655.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Cheers,

 

Dave

 

 

Thanks for getting back...just on retro fitting the Sure Sound decoder with Rail Rumble speakers just wanted to confirm if Hattons also provide a fitting service for these to a DCC Ready version at the point of sale?

 

Cheers

Steve

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1 hour ago, Hattons Dave said:

 

Hi Tom 

 

It appears to be with the wiring in the loco itself.

I'm investigating this further and hope to be able to provide an update early next week.

 

 

Hi Steve

 

We have now sold out of several of the factory fitted versions but depending on which version you wanted we may have another still available in the same livery.

We do also have a small amount of Sure Sound decoders with Rail Rumble speakers available to purchase separately for people who would like to enhance a Digital Ready or Digital Fitted version of a particular locomotive.

If you would like to add one of these decoders to a non-sound version then you can get in touch with our Helpdesk on 0151 733 3655.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Cheers,

 

Dave

 

 

Upgrading some of my orders to have sound fitted will probably be the direction I am going as I have had to watch the funds... how easy is it to do this on the Hattons website?

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31 minutes ago, classy52 said:

 

Thanks for getting back...just on retro fitting the Sure Sound decoder with Rail Rumble speakers just wanted to confirm if Hattons also provide a fitting service for these to a DCC Ready version at the point of sale?

 

Cheers

Steve

Hi Steve

 

We certainly can perform the fitting service as well if required.

Just mention this to the team and they'll be able to add it on to the order for you.

 

10 minutes ago, The Black Hat said:

 

Upgrading some of my orders to have sound fitted will probably be the direction I am going as I have had to watch the funds... how easy is it to do this on the Hattons website?

Hello David

 

The 66 decoders aren't available on the website. This would need to be done by the Helpdesk team as a manual process.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Cheers,

 

Dave

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That's surprising that all the main sound fitted ones have gone, can't have been that many ordered :/

I have been repeatedly told by my local model shop that he will be stocking all the Hattons 66s including sound versions, and so have refrained from pre-ordering direct. Is this correct that the 66s will be available from other shops?

I'm also concerned that one of the examples I want (66621) has an issue with the marker lights, is this the case on the sound version too?

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