Winter123 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 The BBA's are absolutely superb. Just for clarification, Rails have actually received the BBA versions which were sold out on pre-order. The BLA's have not arrived yet but are expected shortly (info as of yesterday). The website is showing them as in stock. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 First class chaps. I am seriously impressed. At Duha no longer make steel bloom loads I am going into production. We will see how they come out but if any good I'll ping up on here what was sued and colours etc etc. The screw links are really lovely but as we run screw/3 link on the layouts we will need to go Smiths way for reliability. They are too fine/stiff for any reverse curves. That said I have plenty for locos now and wondered if you were thinking of doing a 'Sutton' and offering the screw links and air brake pipes as spares? Also has anyone removed the outer stanchions (the ones fitted to wagon yet? If so, how? and how easy is it?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, gridwatcher said: First class chaps. I am seriously impressed. At Duha no longer make steel bloom loads I am going into production. We will see how they come out but if any good I'll ping up on here what was sued and colours etc etc. The screw links are really lovely but as we run screw/3 link on the layouts we will need to go Smiths way for reliability. They are too fine/stiff for any reverse curves. That said I have plenty for locos now and wondered if you were thinking of doing a 'Sutton' and offering the screw links and air brake pipes as spares? Also has anyone removed the outer stanchions (the ones fitted to wagon yet? If so, how? and how easy is it?? There is a lack in decent wagon loads and variants for steel wagons 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 We had approached Goodwood Scenics to provide loads for these wagons under our branding but the price quoted proved prohibitive for us to pursue as a Cavalex commissioned product. However I cannot fault their quality and they do provide a variety of loads if you are in the market for something high end to pop on the back of our wagons. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 due to a cancellation, I have 1 railfreight and 6 brown BBAs back in stock be quick! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 hours ago, RBE said: We had approached Goodwood Scenics to provide loads for these wagons under our branding but the price quoted proved prohibitive for us to pursue as a Cavalex commissioned product. However I cannot fault their quality and they do provide a variety of loads if you are in the market for something high end to pop on the back of our wagons. I have some of there plastic sheeted covered steel coils... look the part but have aluminium in and having a train of 10 wagons make a heavy train Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 5 hours ago, RBE said: We had approached Goodwood Scenics to provide loads for these wagons under our branding but the price quoted proved prohibitive for us to pursue as a Cavalex commissioned product. However I cannot fault their quality and they do provide a variety of loads if you are in the market for something high end to pop on the back of our wagons. They don't make 'Blooms' (don't search their website as there are plenty of flowers there to be found under blooms!!) As coils and blooms are what we need I'll look into the bloom (Large slab loads) and report back when built painted and costed! They do some lovely stuff. Shame Duha have dropped their's as they used to do blooms. This (not my image) is what I am looking at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) I tend to make my own loads , slab is made from 4mm PVC board as used in advertising signs , sprayed various shades of grey , 4mm gives you a slab depth of 1ft so prob just about right thickness , cut to various lengths as some slab can be very long ! , coils can be made from card cut into strips of various widths and wrapped around a tube or shaft @ 10mm , stick the card with pritstick paper glue as you roll them up , painted with either grey or polished steel paint , strapping made from thin sticky labels cut into 0.5 mm strips and stuck on , a dab of red paint for the banding clip , use a white pen to add some markings . Bloom can be made with Plastruct square rod prob 4mm again gives a 1 ft square bar or off cuts of PVC window sill of the right thickness can be cut into strips again painted as above Ingots made of DAS clay shaped to the approx shape , left to dry then can be sanded to final shape , paint as above . I must confess of all the model coils available be it 3d printed , cast metal , resin , plastic kit in two halves , in my mind the only way to a realistic coil is to make them as described , bear in mind pic shown coil made about 25 years ago Edited September 8, 2020 by bazjones1711 1 1 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Ingot made many years ago , maybe slightly too big , but can be sanded down to a more acceptable size Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, bazjones1711 said: Ingot made many years ago , maybe slightly too big , but can be sanded down to a more acceptable size That ingot would look better on a Warwell B ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Mark Saunders said: That ingot would look better on a Warwell B ! Does it look too big or about the right size ? if i had the time i would make a silicon mold and try casting them... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 39 minutes ago, bazjones1711 said: Does it look too big or about the right size ? if i had the time i would make a silicon mold and try casting them... Looks about right for a special order! English Steel River Don Foundry had specially built 250 ton and 300 ton multi bogie ingot carriers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 15 hours ago, Trains4U said: due to a cancellation, I have 1 railfreight and 6 brown BBAs back in stock be quick! Aaaaaannnnd... they’re gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted September 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2020 Green boxes are here... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aureol40012 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Think I may have ordered coils which are slightly out of gauge! What do people think (they will be sat on cradles which haven’t arrived yet)? Think I should have gone for the next size down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, aureol40012 said: Think I may have ordered coils which are slightly out of gauge! What do people think (they will be sat on cradles which haven’t arrived yet)? Think I should have gone for the next size down. are they still a bit high if you loaded them eye-to-the-sky instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aureol40012 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, GordonC said: are they still a bit high if you loaded them eye-to-the-sky instead? Even worse! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Looking at the size of those coils, I'd say you shouldn't have more than two, or most three, on a wagon. They look to be at least 25t each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted September 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fat Controller said: Looking at the size of those coils, I'd say you shouldn't have more than two, or most three, on a wagon. They look to be at least 25t each. Indeed, went very heavy coils normally loaded one at each end over the bogie, with the running along the wagon, not across? Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aureol40012 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Cheers chaps, so using the spacing you suggest you think that it would look prototypical? I’ve looked at photos on the usual site but to my eyes they seem just a tad too large, but willing to be corrected by those who know better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted September 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2020 Just now, aureol40012 said: Cheers chaps, so using the spacing you suggest you think that it would look prototypical? I’ve looked at photos on the usual site but to my eyes they seem just a tad too large, but willing to be corrected by those who know better. I don't think they would look too bad. the cradles didn't lift them far of the deck as that just raises the centre of gravity. Maybe a tad too big, but I would live with it. Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Hi Alex The BBA's look just brilliant, but it's transfers I'm looking for atm. Any update on transfer production being re-started after the virus lockdown issues ? Regards Ken 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 I just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone that has taken the time to post on our thread and for the kind comments. We are really pleased with how well received the BBAs have been. Thanks to all those that have supported this project. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 hours ago, tractor_37260 said: Hi Alex The BBA's look just brilliant, but it's transfers I'm looking for atm. Any update on transfer production being re-started after the virus lockdown issues ? Regards Ken Hi Ken, Thank you for your kind comments. I have sent you a pm regarding transfers. Best Regards Alex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37501 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 My full rake of BBAs received now. Loving them. Now looking to making up suitable loads. I have Cambrian BBAs with steel blooms made of plastic and painted / weathered so might do the same with these, or possibly steel coils laid eye to sky... I always knew that if I built enough Cambrian BBAs, a RTR one would appear. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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