RMweb Premium Kris Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2019 And the new transport secretary is Grant Shapps. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xveitch Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Grant Shapps has been appointed, according to the BBC. Anyone know who he is or if he's faintly useful/capable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) Wikipedia is your friend (and no). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Shapps Edited July 24, 2019 by ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, xveitch said: Grant Shapps has been appointed, according to the BBC. Anyone know who he is or if he's faintly useful/capable? Michael Green I believe.... Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) Shapps has a reputation (justified or not) for doing business under several pseudonyms. The Daily Mash even took the mickey out of him for this..... https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/grant-shapps-to-join-wu-tang-clan-2015051298215 Edited July 24, 2019 by pete_mcfarlane 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Whilst I doubt he could possibly be worse than Grayling, it's entirely possible that he'll be no better. Time will tell. Or perhaps he'll call an end to the pointless dispute on SWR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2019 Hmm.. his wiki reads a bit undesirable. Though of course he does meet the qualification criteria of having absolutely no prior knowledge of the ministerial position he is given. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium QWILPEN Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2019 Shapps voting record on HS2 https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11917/grant_shapps/welwyn_hatfield/divisions?policy=6753 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, QWILPEN said: Shapps voting record on HS2 https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11917/grant_shapps/welwyn_hatfield/divisions?policy=6753 Which might be good in as much as he will possibly argue to continue, but really the decision to continue / change / cancel is the privilege of the PM. As for the majority, 320 votes are required after taking account those who don't sit, and those who can't (speaker, etc). Conservatives currently have 322 (with DUP), but that is expected to decrease to 321 with the Aug 1st by-election. They also have an MP in legal trouble who could theoretically be forced out sometime in the future. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-22/u-k-s-new-premier-risks-majority-declining-to-one-in-parliament 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Apparently Armando Iannucci has given up writing political satire as nothing he could produce today could possibly match or exceed developments with the real thing. 6 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Right Away Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Ian Hargrave said: Chris Grayling has left cabinet.Said goodbye to staff this morning. Could some sad minded individual bestow Mr Grayling's monika on some unfortunate locomotive? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Or perhaps he'll call an end to the pointless dispute on SWR.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone should! Also where are all the ladies; its beginning to look like a good old boys club already! Brian. Edited July 24, 2019 by brianusa omission Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2019 I’m not sure that any locomotive would deserve that treatment. Nor would any DMU or EMU. As an alternative, how about naming the most beaten up decrepit piece of freight stock that’s languishing forgotten and unloved on some part of the network somewhere? 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted July 25, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2019 Grant Shapps…..a smooth customer.Ex Tory party chairman and number 2 at the F.O.some years ago. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted July 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2019 8 hours ago, adb968008 said: Hmm.. his wiki reads a bit undesirable. Though of course he does meet the qualification criteria of having absolutely no prior knowledge of the ministerial position he is given. Judging by the numbers high-tailing it to the back benches of their own volition (presumably to be as far away from the fan as possible when the brown stuff hits it), plus the ones Boris has sacked himself, the new PM won't exactly be inundated with candidates experienced in any field. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted July 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, Ian Hargrave said: Grant Shapps…..a smooth customer.Ex Tory party chairman and number 2 at the F.O.some years ago. Bit harsh 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted July 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2019 9 hours ago, pete_mcfarlane said: Shapps has a reputation (justified or not) for doing business under several pseudonyms. The Daily Mash even took the mickey out of him for this..... https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/grant-shapps-to-join-wu-tang-clan-2015051298215 Sounds like a splendid compatriot for Boris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted July 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2019 The change that worries me is at the treasury. Hammond may have had zero charisma but he was highly competent and capable and in a quietly unspectacular way managed to keep financial wheels on the track in very difficult times. If I had anything good to say about his replacement I would say it. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tim Hall Posted July 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2019 I look back fondly to the days of boring Prime Ministers who just got on with things. 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 8 hours ago, Right Away said: Could some sad minded individual bestow Mr Grayling's monika on some unfortunate locomotive? A pacer? 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 8 hours ago, brianusa said: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Or perhaps he'll call an end to the pointless dispute on SWR.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone should! Also where are all the ladies; its beginning to look like a good old boys club already! Brian. 7 out of the 21 cabinet members and 8 out of the 31 cabinet attendees are women. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) Several years ago Grayling was the first senior Tory to openly admit that the way privatisation was done was fatally flawed and so when he was appointed there was hope he would do some good. The only explanation I can offer about what happened subsequently is that the civil service rapidly totally subsumed and house trained him. He certainly sounded like a well trained Whitehall parrot long before the end. Edited July 25, 2019 by DY444 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted July 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) I met, in professional capacity, with Grant Shapps when he was Opposition spokesman to DCLG. Yes, he is a "smooth" politician, but he is very capable. Could be a very good choice at Transport. Won't be afraid to shake things up. Shapps was succeeded on energy matters by Greg Clark. Sorry to see him leave Govt. A really good guy. But, above all, what we are seeing here is a more fractured political system where people are either "in" or "out", based on personal patronage rather than competence. That can not be a good thing. Edited July 25, 2019 by Joseph_Pestell 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJGraphics Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 9 hours ago, Right Away said: Could some sad minded individual bestow Mr Grayling's monika on some unfortunate locomotive? Hopefully they won't disfigure any rolling stock by doing that . . . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, DY444 said: Grayling was the first senior Tory to openly admit that the way privatisation was done was fatally flawed In fairness, if ever there was a man who was an expert at fatally flawed privatisations... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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