Baby Deltic who made white metal kit?

[rogirbu 2]

Found this on eBay recently, not wanting to pay Heljan prices. I am now puzzled about what make it is. The body is all white metal and appears to be from a kit. The chassis appears to be Lima, also metal. I can find almost nothing on Cl23 kits other than Silver Fox but I understand that was a resin bodyshell. The only, possible, identifying feature is that  the two rooftop vents are open - although that  might have been done by the builder

Any suggestions would be helpful. 

 

 

[Fat Controller 7,302]

MTK, perhaps, in which case the builder has done a very tidy job (and is probably still undergoing therapy).

[Peter Eaton 100]

00, there was one by A1 models.

[Neil Phillips 637]

The casting around the cab doors looks too good to be MTK, although Colin could have his moments!

Did Genesis get around to the Baby Deltic? Can't remember or find anything online, although it appears that company used to cast things in pewter........

[stewartingram 5,469]

I've still got mine, in the "for disposals" box.

I fitted it with a Hornby 21/29 chassis. Good runner, the extra weight helps. I got it from a local swapmeet, taking something to sell (that didn't work btw), but I got a good price for it. That paid for the class 21/29 loco. The chassis went under the 23 body; the body acquired another (dummy) 21/29 chassis which I got for nothing, and I still had change. I fettled the Hornby locos into D6110/12 which I saw on delivery near Cambridge, they are still in my fleet today.

 

Stewart

[Nimbus 346]

Dave Alexander made a whitemetal kit. He may have supplied motorisable bogie castings, as with his BTH Type 1. That wouldn't stop a builder preferring a Lima chassis of course...

 

The Nim.

[stovepipe 1,481]

Don't think its a Dave Alexander kit. I have one and there are some differences in the door and window castings.

[crackedmember 42]

Q kits also made kits for this locomotive.  Their original kits was in glass fibre/ Resin,  however they also made it in their later white metal range.

 

 

[Clive Mortimore 34,045]

Looking at it I would say it is the A1 models kit.

[bigherb 1,417]

This is an A1 models version, another one I will never finish now I have the Heljan ones.

[Shed Driver 44]

Dave Alexander Models also used to do a Class 23.  From my experience of his kits he used press studs for the bogie pivots.

Repeat of previous info.  Sorry didn't read the complete thread

Norman

Edited September 25, 2020 by Shed Driver

[RedgateModels 5,531]

The lima chassis tends to suggest A1 as that is what they recommended. here's mine, which is DCC fitted too ....

 

 

[stovepipe 1,481]

The position of the builders plate below the window is the key I think, so yes it does look like an A1 models kit.

[Ravenser 2,680]

18 hours ago, rogirbu said:

Found this on eBay recently, not wanting to pay Heljan prices. I am now puzzled about what make it is. The body is all white metal and appears to be from a kit. The chassis appears to be Lima, also metal. I can find almost nothing on Cl23 kits other than Silver Fox but I understand that was a resin bodyshell. The only, possible, identifying feature is that  the two rooftop vents are open - although that  might have been done by the builder

Any suggestions would be helpful. 

 

 

 

Chassis is probably ex Lima 20 - that was about their only metal chassis , and the EE bogies would be correct for a 23 

 

I had a whitemetal kit which I despaired of , believed to be Q Kits - it fitted where it touched and the bits didn't touch in a lot of places... I ended up going the Silver Fox route (second-hand kit) with a Hornby 5 pole ringfield in a cut down 29 chassis frame. Much better

 

A decent job has been made of yours 

[Clive Mortimore 34,045]

I never had a kit of a Baby Deltic, but had all ten, four plastic card home made, five cut and shut Tri-ang 37s and one Lima 40 cut and shut (best of the cut and shuts). I decided to replace the cut and shuts with some more plastic card ones. Progress is very limited owing to my modelling no longer being a ER north London loco shed but has moved to Sheffield. Not a place they were commonly seen.

 

 

One day they will be finished.....one day.

[Steamport Southport 11,203]

Eek!

 

I started a cut and shut as well. Copied from the Monty Wells article in Railway Modeller. I don't think I got as far as the bogies though. Just cutting up Hornby Class 37 bodies which were ten a penny at the time.

 

 

 

Jason

[Enterprisingwestern 13,859]

18 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

I never had a kit of a Baby Deltic,

 

I take issue with you on that statement, you had sheets of plastic card and bags of plastic strip!

 

Mike.

[Clive Mortimore 34,045]

28 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

I take issue with you on that statement, you had sheets of plastic card and bags of plastic strip!

 

Mike.

OK Mike

 

They were Slaters Flat Pack Kits.

[rogirbu 2]

 

Thanks for all your comments. It looks like the consenus is A1 kits.

Clive - I admire your dedication in modelling all 10.