RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 21, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2010 Sounds like Warley may be worth a revisit next year then? However, my visit yesterday to the 36E MRE cost me £3.00, no travel costs (I walked), no unpleasant smells or rucksack encounters AFAIK and I only had to spend an hour admiring stuff, ESPECIALLY the Bassetlaw & North Notts RC 7mm layout "Idleford". XLNT. I was almost converted to 7mm but can't contemplate the additional stress or costs;) Just thinking now about whether I catch numerous buses (free) to the Wakefield show next week! Cheers, 36E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted November 21, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2010 but Abbotstone (which IL Dottore was on???) Certainly eldavo (Cramdin and Waton) is part of the operating crew for the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 and after my disclaimer please don't mention anymore rucksacks, i will scream. (which isn't a pretty thing) Well there did seem to be a profusion of what Mrs 298 would call "Manbags" which are obviously fine for anyone who isn't on a camping trip and are better for carrying magazines in. So the message seems to be getting through. I was a little confused by the layout (of the hall), those Capitalists at the NEC are obviously just giving the Warley club the exact square footage they're paying for rather than the whole hall, and it was quite easy to get lost and miss parts of the show. Why not have a long aisle from the entrance to face the centrepiece loco (with a headlight on it to make it more visually dynamic, although we'll draw the line at smoke effects). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Thumper Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Certainly eldavo (Cramdin and Waton) is part of the operating crew for the weekend. That's the guy i meant lol thanks Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Thumper Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I was a little confused by the layout (of the hall), those Capitalists at the NEC are obviously just giving the Warley club the exact square footage they're paying for rather than the whole hall, and it was quite easy to get lost and miss parts of the show. Why not have a long aisle from the entrance to face the centrepiece loco (with a headlight on it to make it more visually dynamic, although we'll draw the line at smoke effects). Yeah i totally agree, i got lost several times looking for a particular layout or a trader which i wanted to go back to etc, so in a lot of ways lots of my time was used trying to find things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vac_basher Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Haven't got a photo that I can post, but the prototypes of the LMS twins on the Bachmann stand looked good Photos of the LMS twins here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php/topic/25789-1000010001/ Look great don't they! B) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakydoke Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I have thought long and hard before tackling this quote. I was initially going to edit it out but thought better of it. Apologies if those remarks were out of order. I think I made them in response to a previous comment about the absense of BO. Having said that, my experience was of two isolated events, so as you say in a crowd of thousands I must count myself lucky not to have come across more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I wasnt able to go because of work commitments, so layout was in the hands of Chris and other club members did anyone get any shots? I made sure we put proper lighting on it. Herculaneum dock looks great with the overhead railway on it Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod5 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Apologies if those remarks were out of order. I think I made them in response to a previous comment about the absense of BO. Having said that, my experience was of two isolated events, so as you say in a crowd of thousands I must count myself lucky not to have come across more. No apology needed just trying to keep the thread on topic rather than have it divert onto 'other' matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakydoke Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I was a little confused by the layout (of the hall) Yeah i totally agree, i got lost several times looking for a particular layout or a trader which i wanted to go back to etc, so in a lot of ways lots of my time was used trying to find things. I guess it helps to do a bit of pre-planning if possible. I've found it useful to study the floor plan and work out a route or strategy for covering as much as possible. This year I printed off an A4 copy of the hall plan from the Warley exhibition website and marked in colour the stands I most wished to visit. Fortunately the hall layout was approximately in rows from left to right, so it was just a matter of walking back and forth, circling each island of stands and layouts as I went. Any I wished to return to, I just marked with a pen and went back once my route march was completed. It still took 8 hours to complete it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 The remark wasn't about the subject matter, Pete, but rather about the approach to the hobby, dated methods, techniques and materials. I think the chap was spot on and think that it applies in other areas as well, particularly in the approach to building, presenting and operating exhibition layouts. Well maybe you should show them all how it should be done, then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 21, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2010 I guess it helps to do a bit of pre-planning if possible. I've found it useful to study the floor plan and work out a route or strategy for covering as much as possible. This year I printed off an A4 copy of the hall plan from the Warley exhibition website and marked in colour the stands I most wished to visit. Fortunately the hall layout was approximately in rows from left to right, so it was just a matter of walking back and forth, circling each island of stands and layouts as I went. Any I wished to return to, I just marked with a pen and went back once my route march was completed. It still took 8 hours to complete it all. That's a really good idea; thanks for the tip. Last time I went a few years ago, on arrival I went directly to the refreshment area with my 'guide book' and worked out a priority plan of attack. I think you have to accept that some things are not going to be seen unless you have the time towards the end of the visit. I have also tried just keeping to a shopping list, however....those books, those lovely books!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 36E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Thumper Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 the books get more and more expensive.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium BluenGreyAnorak Posted November 21, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2010 Here are a selection of shots for those that couldn't get there: First, an overall shot of Ackthorpe, which was nice to see having just read about it in one of the mags: An overall shot of Barmouth Bridge, very impressive for the size of the thing: An overall view of Herculaneum Dock. Amongst lots of impressive details, the inset track was just superb: A cropped section of Midhurst, for the beautifully complex trackwork: An FIA 10001 in the display case on the Model Rail stand. Not sure why, particularly, but with the Bachmann pre-pro versions in their case, this seems to be one of the locos of the moment: A slightly opportunist shot of Lion, which happened to be sitting on the Model Rail photo embankment. Obviously pre-pro by some of the printed on details, but very nice to look at nonetheless: And finally, a cropped section of a blue/grey layout that I really liked the look of but can't remember the name! Unfortunately, a lack of lighting made taking decent pics very tricky, and this one has been played with to try to improve it: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I guess it helps to do a bit of pre-planning if possible. I've found it useful to study the floor plan and work out a route or strategy for covering as much as possible. This year I printed off an A4 copy of the hall plan from the Warley exhibition website and marked in colour the stands I most wished to visit. Fortunately the hall layout was approximately in rows from left to right, so it was just a matter of walking back and forth, circling each island of stands and layouts as I went. Any I wished to return to, I just marked with a pen and went back once my route march was completed. It still took 8 hours to complete it all. I'd done that with the trade stands I wished to visit marked on, but unfortunately there was no mention of the layout stand no's on their website. They obviously want you to buy a guide book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 well I went today after an abscence of 6 years.... I enjoyed it as a whole, but was there a lack of diesel era layouts ?I counted about four - of these my favourite was 'pengywn crossing' by bentley MRG, ticking all the boxes for diesel/rural (china clay). I didn't see any bargains nor anything ground breaking really. The major advantage of warley seems to be that you can get all those little bits in one place, but it cost me £19 in ticket and parking to get that far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Thumper Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 its better value for money if you go in one car as a group of four/five. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakydoke Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Well maybe you should show them all how it should be done, then... I was expecting a comment like that. I don't pretend that my own modelling skills come anyway near exhibition standard, but I expect those layouts exhibited at the major events to be aiming towards the highest order in build, presentation and operation. Particularly if the layout is presented by a club. Sometimes I think polital correctness goes too far with regard to criticising exhibition layouts. It's one thing to praise the efforts of others, even if they fall way short of perfect, but in circumstances such as exhibiting at a premier event, then there are really no excuses. Anyway, we've had this discussion before and I don't think this thread is the place to continue it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 The lighting is certainly one of the reasons I don't go to the NEC(for any reason). For model railway shows I can't see the layouts properly and echo Oakeydokes comments about the stands needing their own lighting. In any case, after 2-3 hours I get a headache and can't take any more; this is obviously not long enough to see everything. Still, I'm glad those who went enjoyed it. Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted November 21, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2010 Took my camera but did not use it, sometimes it is difficult to get decent shots because of (a) lighting, however there is no excuse for poorly lit shots with modern digital cameras which can be set for the various sources of light. (B) composition because of being able to get in a position to get the best shot and © focus because with the best will in the world it is difficult to get a really sharp shot without a tripod and a decent sized flash neither of which are welcome or practical at exhibitons like Warley. I too noticed the distinct lack of D/E layouts, was this a conscious decision by the organisers? I do not model D/E but I do like to see those big modern locos, cant wait to see CL70 on a layout, they look awesome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Thumper Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 i took my camera and forgot the memory card!!!!! by the end of the day (for me 5 p.m.) i was glad that i got some fresh air... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 HELP needed. There was a trader, up against the side wall, who had diecast lorry cabs, chassis and bodies (both modern and vintage) for you to mix and match together. Was going to take a price list (for the WWW address) but at 50P I thought I'd commit it to memory and have promptly forgotten it. Have checked the Warley website list of traders and nothing is sounding familiar. I believe it was www.diecast- ???? Had a Google and thus far drawing a blank. Can anyone help! Show wise - a very enjoyable trip – actually took the time to look more closely at those layouts that aren’t particularly my area of interest and thoroughly enjoyed them all . I don't know if the aisles were wider or numbers were down but there was definitely more room than Sunday last year. Also seemed more natural light than last year (was it a really grey day last year?) had they replaced/cleaned the glass in the skylights?? :. However - still not enough chairs for the refreshment area - saw a few 'scrum-downs'. Thanks to all who organised and participated in the show - much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentskj Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 again help needed can any one help me saw on Saturday a stand seling plaques with different surfaces and said i would return today but unfoscene circumstances prevented me does any body know the name of the company, stand no, a website and contact details Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 HELP needed. There was a trader, up against the side wall, who had diecast lorry cabs, chassis and bodies (both modern and vintage) for you to mix and match together. Was going to take a price list (for the WWW address) but at 50P I thought I'd commit it to memory and have promptly forgotten it. Have checked the Warley website list of traders and nothing is sounding familiar. I believe it was www.diecast- ???? Had a Google and thus far drawing a blank. Can anyone help! Show wise - a very enjoyable trip – actually took the time to look more closely at those layouts that aren’t particularly my area of interest and thoroughly enjoyed them all . I don't know if the isles were wider or numbers were down but there was definitely more room than Sunday last year. Also seemed more natural light than last year (was it a really grey day last year?) had they replaced/cleaned the glass in the skylights?? :. However - still not enough chairs for the refreshment area - saw a few 'scrum-downs'. Thanks to all who organised and participated in the show - much appreciated. Sounds like it could be RTI (Road Transport Images). They sell a cracking CDROM catalogue with photo's of dioramas. They do a range of diecast chassis with resin cabs, etc, so you can build model lorries with your choice of cab, chassis and body. My link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Bathurst Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Another good show. Good train journey upto the show from Swansea and good journey home. Really enjoyed the show, fantastic layouts and excellent demonstrators enjoyed talking to few of them inspired me anyway. And judging from the excitment from the kids i seen going around with they stands they were enjoying. Always come back from this show inspired Fantastic weekend looking forward to 2011 show Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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