HeavyDuty Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 HAAs? Oh, dear - I can foresee the potential for financial ruin at Casa HeavyDuty. Hopefully Dapol will keep these in regular production for people that want to amass a quantity of them - it'll be hard to choke down more than a few at a time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 It's great that Dapol are producing some modern wagons to go with their forthcoming 08 shunter, but the HAA seems a slightly odd choice as not many O gauge modellers with have the room/wallet size for a realistic length train of them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 It's great that Dapol are producing some modern wagons to go with their forthcoming 08 shunter, but the HAA seems a slightly odd choice as not many O gauge modellers with have the room/wallet size for a realistic length train of them! ... unless, of course, the "next range of announcements" - whenever that may be - contains something useful to pull them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiles Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 HEA? Yep, that's typical!! Guess what pair of Bachmann Brassworks wagons I'm painting at the moment after many months of hunting them down? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linners Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Thank you Andy, this is good news for the O-gauge modellers amongst us, especially when read in tandem with Kernow's 7mm proposals! as I am unable to get to Warley this year I was wondering whether there any news regarding Dapol's N-gauge rolling stock, especially the Grampus wagons? Linners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Western Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 It's great that Dapol are producing some modern wagons to go with their forthcoming 08 shunter, but the HAA seems a slightly odd choice as not many O gauge modellers with have the room/wallet size for a realistic length train of them! Barry WRD had dozens of MGR wagons stabled for repair, or a single wagon being pushed about by a 08 into and out of the repair shop. Great Western. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Western Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 ... unless, of course, the "next range of announcements" - whenever that may be - contains something useful to pull them. I dont think Dapol will step into the big deisel or steam locomotive market to be honest. They are looking at the smaller end of the scale, the 08 and Terrier at circa £160 per loco is an acceptable price. When your looking at £300 for a 37,47,56 etc you start to get out of middle aged pocket money. Just my thoughts, Dapol must be given huge praise for such a commitment to O guage though! Great Western, 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 £300+ for a loco is indeed a lot of money, but for an rtr model it's not bad when you think that most of the current kits for "big locos" - steam or diesel - cost more than that already. As an example, a JLTRT Class 50 - £440 for the kit, plus wheels, motor, solder, tools, paint, transfers and your time on top of that. http://www.justliketherealthing.co.uk/class-50-refurb-o-gauge-diesel-loco-kit-p-22.html?cPath=46 and of course other kits and manufacturers are available When you think that people said nobody would spend £300 at a time on OO gauge but then the Blue Pullman comes along, see how well that's sold... it may not be "pocket money" but like most things, if you save up for long enough you can get one. The only problem of course is that by the time you've saved up, they're all sold out because everything seems to be limited runs these days. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Western Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I only just managed to secure five of the 8 plank BR wagons, as they were more or less sold out on pre orders. Put into the context of the Blue Pullman for example or the JLTRT kits, then fair enough £300-400 for a Class 56 RTR is a bargain! But then with big locos you need a decent size layout to fit it on, Im looking at approx 18ft long by 3ft wide for a basis wagon repair shop for the 08 and some wagons to shunt about on. Throw in a 56 or another big loco and that space looks pretty small. If Dapol did a big loco then great, the more than better as along as it sells of course. After 20 yrs of waiting O scale is finally in finanical reach for the masses. Great Western. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Class 21 pre-pro wasn't universally well received Can't wait for these to arrive: This feeding frenzy was typical of Saturday: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 But then with big locos you need a decent size layout to fit it on, Im looking at approx 18ft long by 3ft wide for a basis wagon repair shop for the 08 and some wagons to shunt about on. Throw in a 56 or another big loco and that space looks pretty small. Such is the nature, advantage and downfall of O gauge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted November 25, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 25, 2012 HEAs......no chance of a retooled version for the nuclear flask runner? Probably not, looks like its out with the bread knife and sellotape then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomstaf Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Hi Dave, Some welcome choices there! Will they be available next year or is this more or a longer term project? Cheers Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 All you need is to make a nice 7mm 56 to pull te coal hoppers You are getting a 60....! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Oooo, good job Ive no space in the garden for a circuit, between HJ with their early AB stock and this lot, Ft William to Mallaig in O is almost do-able... Actually wonder what the best option for a 37/0 is! Must stop! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomstaf Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Actually wonder what the best option for a 37/0 is! Must stop! No, go forth and grab one - think JLTRT when it comes to all types of 37s! Cheers Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Why? These are VEA not vacuum braked vanwides. So only the later freight brown is suitable http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/vea The photograph (that I assume Andy chose) is NOT a VEA, it is an unrebuilt VB one in conservation, without lettering. Yes I noticed that as well, although it does illustrate that with a bit of thought, it would be easy enough for Dapol to do a vac brake vanwide. The other odd comment is the olive green with yellow ends version - I think they have chosen a Transrail branded example (also illustrated on your site) which I've always believed was grey with yellow ends. The olive green with yellow ends examples I've always believed were the MOD internal users, which were mostly (but certainly not exclusively) vanwides without the modified suspension. jon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugsley Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 The other odd comment is the olive green with yellow ends version - I think they have chosen a Transrail branded example (also illustrated on your site) which I've always believed was grey with yellow ends. The olive green with yellow ends examples I've always believed were the MOD internal users, which were mostly (but certainly not exclusively) vanwides without the modified suspension. I'd agree with that, the later RfD livery with the yellow ends was definitely grey, Executive Dark Grey in fact. Although if Dapol have been looking at a faded one, then I can understand where the confusion may have arisen, as that colour takes on a distinct green-ish tinge when very faded. Again, I agree completely, the green with yellow ends were MOD internal users, although did the MOD buy some of the VEA's after BR stopped using them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I'd agree with that, the later RfD livery with the yellow ends was definitely grey, Executive Dark Grey in fact. Although if Dapol have been looking at a faded one, then I can understand where the confusion may have arisen, as that colour takes on a distinct green-ish tinge when very faded. Again, I agree completely, the green with yellow ends were MOD internal users, although did the MOD buy some of the VEA's after BR stopped using them? This is 230142 in Executive grey http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/vea/e10515e07 Paul Bartlett 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnought05 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Just browsing Dapol's site and I noticed that there's a couple of new entries, including very small CAD/CAMs for both the HAA and HEA hoppers. Both also come with a provisional third quarter 2015 release. HAA http://Dapol.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=179_298_299_591 HEA http://Dapol.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=179_298_299_592 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR_Blue_1986 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Amy more news on these? It's been quiet for too long now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I'll chase this one as well, any news anyone or just another fantasy project. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I'll chase this one as well, any news anyone or just another fantasy project. I was just thinking that the other day - where have these got too??? - I have been looking forward to the HEA for too long now - fingers crossed - we don't have to wait much longer......??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Brady Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Has this just dropped off the face of the earth, back to the PRMRP ones then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenwall Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Dapol Website gives HEA as in tooling with an ETA 2nd quarter 2016, as are the 10'wb vans. Presumably in concert with the 08. If we are lucky they may make Telford ! HAA is given as 3rd quarter (Christmas 2016?) The first engineering samples of the 08 have been shown, so maybe light at the end of the tunnel but obviously care of cups and lips is still needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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