RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted April 10, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10, 2016 Unusual situation for me as I was able to visit the crash site. The train involved was 170204 on 1K77, 12:03, Norwich - Cambridge (13:22) The only serious injury was to the tractor driver, all on the train were minor or OK - including the driver. The train to the right, the tractor to the left. The tractor - the police courdon meant this was the nearest I could get. The train - I was with the Sky News team at this point The passengers were taken off onto a train which had come from Thetford, this then reversed working wrong line back to Thetford - roughly 100+ people on the train apparently so lucky to be no serious injuries. Part of the 170 View back to the collision point from Drove Road crossing (where the 170 stopped) No comment. Some of the vehicles involved - the fire brigade were bailing out as we arrived. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Is that a new type of crossing i spy? 'Push button wait for green light' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted April 10, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10, 2016 It is a trail site for a new UWC, but the system has a fair few 'issues', therefore its been bagged out of use. The train stood up well, a bit of t-cut and that'll be a good 'un again.... Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Jonboy Posted April 10, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) Was it (the UWC) in public service when issues were discovered? Just wondering if a local(s) had started using it and then had it taken away again? Edited April 10, 2016 by Jonboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted April 10, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) The UWC was open for use, just the new technology part of it was out of use, so as always, cross with care. If in doubt call the controlling signaller first, and always if long, low and slow.... Andy G Edit: Actually having looked at the photos again, you need to call whenever you are crossing with a vehicle or animals. Even on foot I'd call up.... Be interesting to see if the tractor driver actually called the box.... Edited April 10, 2016 by uax6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted April 10, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10, 2016 It is a trail site for a new UWC, but the system has a fair few 'issues', therefore its been bagged out of use. The train stood up well, a bit of t-cut and that'll be a good 'un again.... Andy G Bagging the button might have been a good move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted April 10, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10, 2016 I thought that looking at your piccy, but I'm guessing the bags aren't big enough.... No doubt the railway will get a slating about the new tech installed but not working.... Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Bagging the button might have been a good move. True - though even that panel tells you to phone if you don't get a green... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panel 7 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 It is a trail site for a new UWC, but the system has a fair few 'issues', therefore its been bagged out of use. The train stood up well, a bit of t-cut and that'll be a good 'un again.... Andy G It is an EUWC not a UWC, we have a couple on our patch in a simular state. They have to be worked as bog standard Occupation/Accommodation crossings, ie the user has to phone to get permission to cross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted April 11, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11, 2016 The Brecklands line is shut again due to an incident at Keswick level crossing - person/train unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted April 11, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11, 2016 Apparently the train driver has hurt his hand and isn't serious which is good. Let's hope the tractor driver pulls through. The unit driver stayed in the cab,think I'd have shoved the brake into emergency hit the red button on the GSMR and legged it into the train! Farm implements have nasty cab piercing bits on them, the unit has taken a battering, just what Anglia needed especially being a three car Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Just curious. Beneath that bag, and I could be wrong, it looks like the indicator has three aspects showing to the road user, STOP, GREEN & CLEAR. STOP is pretty self explanatory, what's the difference in meaning between GREEN & CLEAR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted April 11, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11, 2016 Not really sure as never seen one uncovered, but with the old and new together does look a bit confusing. Still he should have rang the box whatever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Apparently the train driver has hurt his hand and isn't serious which is good. Let's hope the tractor driver pulls through. The unit driver stayed in the cab,think I'd have shoved the brake into emergency hit the red button on the GSMR and legged it into the train! Farm implements have nasty cab piercing bits on them, the unit has taken a battering, just what Anglia needed especially being a three car The reports I have heard is that the train driver shoved the brake onto emergency and baled out of the cab immediately, I certainly wouldn't have stayed in the cab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted April 11, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) been meaning to get round to mentioning this one from friday: http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/travel/latest-travel-news/update-man-killed-by-train-near-peterborough-90-minute-delays-to-all-services-1-7318932 doesn't say whether it was negligence or deliberate, but caused widespread issues well into the afternoon. The 10.00 KX-aberdeen (train involved i think) was showing as cancelled, don't know if the same train or a replacement eventually went forward 90 mins late, but this should have been into edinburgh at 14.28. because this was running so late, i think everyone heading north got on the 15.00 edinburgh-dundee (my train) as this was the only other option. This train was only a 2-car 158 and was therefore full to bursting leaving edinburgh - gangways/corridor/vestibules all full of folk with luggage etc. plenty of people moaning about why they didn't just put extra coaches on, i suppose it would have been possible in BR days, but presumably no spare stock available anyway with peak time coming up. Edited April 11, 2016 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted April 11, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 11, 2016 that 170 definitely took a head-on battering, but does seem to have held together quite well given the circumstances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted April 11, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11, 2016 Out off all the ones that have been battered over here this is definitely the worst, certainly none of the others have had internal damage to the saloon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted April 12, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 12, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-36029201 A driver who jumped red lights and became stuck on a level crossing has been banned from driving and handed a five-month suspended jail sentence. That's better 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmisterporter Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 The reports I have heard is that the train driver shoved the brake onto emergency and baled out of the cab immediately, I certainly wouldn't have stayed in the cab. According to Richard Branson the driver stays in the cab to steer the train to a safe stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 According to Richard Branson the driver stays in the cab to steer the train to a safe stop. Yes, another one I heard a long time ago concerned a train which had derailed, but the driver managed to keep it upright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted April 13, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 13, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-36029201 That's better I can't help but wonder why she stopped and tried to reverse, surely both entrance barriers go down together, then both exit barriers (we can only see one side of the crossing in the video) and the exit barrier was still up when she stopped and reversed, if she'd carried on forwards she would have escaped in exactly the way the crossings are designed to allow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I think you are assuming an unwarranted amount of common sense there, JDW! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted April 13, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 13, 2016 My apologies, I shall try to avoid any such slip ups in future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) Is that a new type of crossing i spy? 'Push button wait for green light' It is an EUWC not a UWC, we have a couple on our patch in a simular state. They have to be worked as bog standard Occupation/Accommodation crossings, ie the user has to phone to get permission to cross. Hi, It's an EBIgate 200 Enhanced User Worked Crossing (EUWC) installation, just had a look on internet and found this data sheet: ebigate_200_datasheet.pdf There's two lights a red and green, the user pushes the button, and if it is safe to cross, the green 'clear' light illuminates, but if there is a train approach, the red light illuminates and an audible warning sounds, with a second audible warning if a second train is approaching. It sounds like the light is only illuminated when the button is pushed. Simon Edited April 15, 2016 by St. Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted April 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2016 Why not just simple red and green without the button? Additional complications! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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