Prototype for everything corner.

[john new]

9 minutes ago, montyburns56 said:

Crewe to Holyhead 1996 by Dave Gomersall

 

 

What is the footbridge going over? A footbridge next to, but which then doesn't cross the track, is an interesting prototype for everything in itself.

[nigb55009]

The foot bridge goes over the lines into Point of Ayr Colliery. I can`t remember if it was staff accessor a public footpath. If you look closely under the footbridge you can just make out the overgrown track.

[montyburns56]

When your freight train looks like the contents of a Hornby train set

 

Worcester Shrub Hill 1989 by Dave Gomersall

 

 

[eastwestdivide]

16 minutes ago, montyburns56 said:

When your freight train looks like the contents of a Hornby train set

What’s the third wagon? Some kind of short flat with a 20’ tank container?

Edited September 17, 2021 by eastwestdivide
Tank

[Wickham Green too]

Or is that the fourth wagon ? ........ I never know whether those twin thingummies count as one or two !!

[Davexoc]

2 hours ago, eastwestdivide said:

What’s the third wagon? Some kind of short flat with a 20’ tank container?

 

Looks like it could be the Procor prototype PFA PR93200, as it looks to have a higher and thus flat deck with less pronounced headstocks.

 

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/kellyspfa

[melmerby]

On 16/09/2021 at 19:24, nigb55009 said:

The foot bridge goes over the lines into Point of Ayr Colliery. I can`t remember if it was staff accessor a public footpath. If you look closely under the footbridge you can just make out the overgrown track.

And some crossing gates and warning signs on the public footpath

Looks like the footbridge is to go over the track whilst the gates are closed to footpath traffic.

 

 

(Image lost)

Edited June 21, 2022 by melmerby

[nigb55009]

12 minutes ago, melmerby said:

And some crossing gates and warning signs on the public footpath

Looks like the footbridge is to go over the track whilst the gates are closed to footpath traffic.

 

The map is pre 1923, it shows a tramway down to a colliery screen. The photo is obviously much later, but the method of loading, even the location of the loading equipment are different. When HAA wagons came into use a rapid loader was installed. Trains of empty wagons were propelled from the main line. The loco, or locos, would run round before  propelling the wagons under the loader. There were also weighbridges which the wagons would pass over. At the time of the tramway the colliery`s own loco would probably have taken wagons to and from the screens. The later line would have curved round to the colliery, below were the tramway is on the map. The rapid loader was in a straight  towards the pit head IIRC.

[melmerby]

17 hours ago, nigb55009 said:

The map is pre 1923, it shows a tramway down to a colliery screen. The photo is obviously much later, but the method of loading, even the location of the loading equipment are different. When HAA wagons came into use a rapid loader was installed. Trains of empty wagons were propelled from the main line. The loco, or locos, would run round before  propelling the wagons under the loader. There were also weighbridges which the wagons would pass over. At the time of the tramway the colliery`s own loco would probably have taken wagons to and from the screens. The later line would have curved round to the colliery, below were the tramway is on the map. The rapid loader was in a straight  towards the pit head IIRC.

 

 

Using overlay maps you can see the original incline is south of the new line and the footpath has been diverted, the bridge being further E of it's later position

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.34338&lon=-3.31659&layers=168&b=1

 

Here is the 2015 Google earth view

[montyburns56]

Test Coach Iris at Corby 1988 by Dean M66A

 

 

[SHMD]

18 minutes ago, montyburns56 said:

Test Coach Iris at Corby 1988 by Dean M66A

 

 

 

If Heljan made Iris, then I'm sure that is possible to re-create!

 

 

Kev.

[Titan]

37 minutes ago, montyburns56 said:

Test Coach Iris at Corby 1988 by Dean M66A

 

 

 

Think a failed 47+train might be a little over it's maximum permitted tail load.

[brushman47544]

44 minutes ago, montyburns56 said:

Test Coach Iris at Corby 1988 by Dean M66A

 

 

The Mk1s look like condemned/withdrawn stock as most of the windows are missing in at least the first three and there is also a door on the latch, so it could be some sort of test train running wrong line, although as Titan said a very heavy tail load.

[hexagon789]

17 hours ago, brushman47544 said:

The Mk1s look like condemned/withdrawn stock as most of the windows are missing in at least the first three and there is also a door on the latch, so it could be some sort of test train running wrong line, although as Titan said a very heavy tail load.

The caption states it was a test to do with Channel Tunnel communications. The train consisted of Iris, a 47, 37 Mk1s and two 20s on the back.

 

Also Iris was being detached, so she's not actually hauling the 1600+ tonne train.

Edited September 19, 2021 by hexagon789

[montyburns56]

Winwick Junction, D1855 & D434 Test, July 1968. Photo E.N.BELLASS.

 

 

[Mol_PMB]

49 minutes ago, montyburns56 said:

Winwick Junction, D1855 & D434 Test, July 1968. Photo E.N.BELLASS.

 

 

LMS carriage in Blue/Grey, second in the rake.

[Metr0Land]

8 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said:

LMS carriage in Blue/Grey, second in the rake.

 

...and a porthole at that.

[DIRTY DIESEL]

On 18/09/2021 at 16:09, melmerby said:

 

 

Using overlay maps you can see the original incline is south of the new line and the footpath has been diverted, the bridge being further E of it's later position

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.34338&lon=-3.31659&layers=168&b=1

 

Here is the 2015 Google earth view

I worked Talacre SB from 1991 to 1997, we used to ring the loading point to get permission to let the trains in. The footbridge was a public one I seem to remember and the crossing under it was an access road from one side of the pit to the other, gates would be closed prior to the wagons propelling back into the pit.  
From November 1991 the class 60s took over from the pairs of 20s, and from this date trains were increased to the standard 35 wagons length train (if my memory is correct), as the headshunt on the the other side of the loading point was too short we had to split the train and load each half separately before putting them back together and running round, the whole process took 3 hours from start to finish. 
Around this time we had two trains a night Sunday to Friday which took the loaded wagons to Fiddlers Ferry Power Station. 

 

[nightstar.train]

On 15/09/2021 at 18:13, montyburns56 said:

37197 37038 47839 Leominster 2003 by Dave Gomersall

 

 

What livery is that first 37 in? I’ve never seen that before. It’s quite nice. 

[Mol_PMB]

12 minutes ago, nightstar.train said:

What livery is that first 37 in? I’ve never seen that before. It’s quite nice. 

Ian Riley’s livery. 

Reminds me of green 47s and later 25s, but not quite the same colours. 

[DavidB-AU]

2 that came up at random on Flickr.

 

Salisbury, 14 April 1984

 

York, 5 July 2014.

[hmrspaul]

Bachmann used the photos I took of the Northern Belle BG, the day before, as the basis for a model. Admittedly I've never seen said model. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brnpccs/e109f98b and the rest. 

Useful detail of reason for existence given on the flicr site. 

 

20303 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass20/e5657671

20305 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass20/e6a064e6

Paul

[montyburns56]

31s on a Mk3 train

 

Charlton 1986 by Brian Dean

 

 

[Mol_PMB]

The ped must have been hard pushed to supply enough ETH for that train!

[The Pilotman]

4 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said:

The ped must have been hard pushed to supply enough ETH for that train!

These Paignton trains (a pair of 31s and a WCML rake) were a regular feature on Summer Saturdays in the late 1980s. At one time I believe three such trains could be seen in one day. Often, one of the Euston-Birmingham/Wolverhampton rakes of mainly Mk2 stock was used but frequently spare Pullman rakes (like the one in Brian’s picture above) were used too.