eastglosmog Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Didn't work for me, either, Jamie. Best I can come up with is the Graces guide entry https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/P._and_W._MacLellan where it seems they built bridges, piers and other iron and steel things and had a wide export trade - railway wagons and coaches were only a part of their business. My Nigerian work has all been in the west of the country - never ventured to the east or north. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2019 3 hours ago, jamie92208 said: Unfortunately that link doesn't seem to work for me. The interesting thing for me is that my father worked in Nigeria from 1938 to 47 and did a lot of train travel from landing in Lagos to where he worked in Eastern Nigeria. Jamie 1 hour ago, eastglosmog said: Didn't work for me, either, Jamie. Best I can come up with is the Graces guide entry https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/P._and_W._MacLellan where it seems they built bridges, piers and other iron and steel things and had a wide export trade - railway wagons and coaches were only a part of their business. My Nigerian work has all been in the west of the country - never ventured to the east or north. Sorry that the link doesn't work. I found the item by Googling 'Maclellan railway wagons'. 3 hours ago, Darryl Tooley said: The vehicle nearest the camera appears to be to the same design as that shown on p68 of 'Birmingham Railway Carriage & Wagon Company: A Century of Achievement' ( Hyper, Wheeler & Wheeler, 1995), a bogie goods brake van built for the Nigerian Railway Corporation in 1960. A quick trawl of the internet reveals a works photo of a similar wagon supplied by Gloucester. D I have a copy of that publication too and thats why I thought it might be British made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Colin Posted September 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2019 In case anyone was wondering, the Shenfield Shark is still there - saw it yesterday (but wasn’t able to get a pic) on my way from Chelmsford to Stratford (up the Hammers!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted September 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Colin said: .... (up the Hammers!) They don't like it up 'em, Mr. Mainwaring, Sir !! Regards, John Isherwood. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted September 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2019 The Ipswich GUV was and possibly still is used as a store 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Just spotted this on Google Maps. Seems to be quite a few abandoned coal wagons in the remains of the sidings to Swansea east dock. They look like HEAs, but hard to tell. Hopefully the link works https://www.google.com/maps/search/swansea+east+dock/@51.6223268,-3.8938378,267m/data=!3m1!1e3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, SouthernBlue80s said: Just spotted this on Google Maps. Seems to be quite a few abandoned coal wagons in the remains of the sidings to Swansea east dock. They look like HEAs, but hard to tell. Hopefully the link works https://www.google.com/maps/search/swansea+east+dock/@51.6223268,-3.8938378,267m/data=!3m1!1e3 I am not much of an expert on wagons, but you get a much clearer view if you choose 3D view and zoom in. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Titan said: I am not much of an expert on wagons, but you get a much clearer view if you choose 3D view and zoom in. The location will be Burrows Sidings; there were several HAA (or similar) abandoned on the siding that served the defunct Ford plant for a decade or so. However, the vehicles in the photo seem to be a solitary MEA, with several of the containers used for coal traffic from Wales to Scotland by Russells. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Here's a pic 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 hours ago, 25901 said: Here's a pic The MEAs to the right will be empties, returming from Onllwyn to Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen. The train has to run to Burrows Yard to run round, as there's no direct route from the N&B to the District LIne. The containers from the aerial view can be seen scattered about; knowing that part of Swansea, I'm surprised the scrap fairy hasn't made a visit. Sad to see the railway presence reduced to a handful of sidings; the group you've photographed originally had about 16 roads, along with two through tracks, and was only one of several such in the vicinity. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 21 hours ago, Fat Controller said: The MEAs to the right will be empties, returming from Onllwyn to Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen. The train has to run to Burrows Yard to run round, as there's no direct route from the N&B to the District LIne. The containers from the aerial view can be seen scattered about; knowing that part of Swansea, I'm surprised the scrap fairy hasn't made a visit. Sad to see the railway presence reduced to a handful of sidings; the group you've photographed originally had about 16 roads, along with two through tracks, and was only one of several such in the vicinity. I went to Burrows sidings a few times in the early 80s, how times change. All the containers in the aerial view look to be on abandoned track, So I guess the whole area is now out of use. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, SouthernBlue80s said: I went to Burrows sidings a few times in the early 80s, how times change. All the containers in the aerial view look to be on abandoned track, So I guess the whole area is now out of use. There are just three loops left, along with the remnants of the Ford siding. The Ford siding was obviously laid with recovered material as, roughly where the solitary MEA is visible, there are not one, but two, 'breather joints' of the sort one used to see on CWR. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nat37670 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 On 22/09/2019 at 22:28, Fat Controller said: The MEAs to the right will be empties, returming from Onllwyn to Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen. The train has to run to Burrows Yard to run round, as there's no direct route from the N&B to the District LIne. The containers from the aerial view can be seen scattered about; knowing that part of Swansea, I'm surprised the scrap fairy hasn't made a visit. Sad to see the railway presence reduced to a handful of sidings; the group you've photographed originally had about 16 roads, along with two through tracks, and was only one of several such in the vicinity. The MEA rake is indeed the Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen to Onllwyn anthracite rake. The rake and associated spares are dumped at Swansea Burrows Yard today, technically abandoned as the last loaded train from G-c-G was May 2019. The Yard is still used to run around the Onllwyn to Immingham coal (HTA wagons) and any aggregate train ex Neath Abbey Wharf have to come here to run around before returning back to Briton Ferry and the mainline. If you are looking for abandoned wagons in S Wales the old Marshalling (Hump) Yard at Margam Moors/Kenfig is usually full of disused stock. N 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Railway legend is a rake of wagons in a siding at Ipswich for 20+ years, the owners having vanished without trace. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 12 hours ago, Pandora said: Railway legend is a rake of wagons in a siding at Ipswich for 20+ years, the owners having vanished without trace. Were they called British Railways by any chance ? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 21, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2019 There was a Fruit 'D' and another wagon in a yard not far from Finsbury Park station that were gradually disappearing into the shrubbery about 20 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 On 01/09/2019 at 12:11, Colin said: In case anyone was wondering, the Shenfield Shark is still there - saw it yesterday (but wasn’t able to get a pic) on my way from Chelmsford to Stratford (up the Hammers!) I passed through last week, the Shark is still present. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 18/01/2014 at 15:48, Dan Griffin said: there is a wooden bodied VVV van in Peterborough west yard, along with three ferry vans, one in each livery carried, dutch, bauxite and railfreight. a bream wagon and a oca wagon full of pea shingle. a southern region brake van at manea that's clocking up 30 years in the siding and the last time I wengt through diss on the train there some wagons stored in a disconnected yard there. Pretty certain I photographed one of the ferry vans in Westwood yard back in the 1990s. I'll have to check..... (CJL) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted October 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2019 I can't be certain, but I think that the ferry vans at Peterborough have been reduced in number, 5 going to preservation... Read about it here: https://www.weekendrails.co.uk/blog/of-bogies-flats-and-vans.html Andy G 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2019 Are they going to be preserved as is or the frames used for something else? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 The frames are probably long enough to take a body from a grounded six-wheel coach ( probably a typical example from Hattons Generic Railways ) ........ not enough wheels, wrong type of brakes .... who cares !!?! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I would rather have the ferry vans..... Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted October 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2019 I believe they are remaining as ferry vans, to act as store vehicles... Andy g 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted October 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, uax6 said: I believe they are remaining as ferry vans, to act as store vehicles... Andy g I would be nice if they could be externally restored store vehicles, rather than the decrepit wrecks so often seen on 'heritage' lines. Regards, John Isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrains Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) Shenfield Shark is still there. Why have some preservation group not got hold of it. Or, Is it too far gone? It is not in its original condition. Edited October 26, 2019 by andytrains . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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