Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[Davexoc]

C6168 - interesting that the TSO closest to the camera carried a SC prefix.

Strange as it should have been M6017, but was soon to become S72626 (11/83) as part of a Gatwick Express set before going to NIR, according to Longworth.

 

Dave

[DaveF]

Mostly the remains of old railways in County Durham today - or should it just be "Railway Relics"?

 

The first five photos are Dad's, taken on a weekend visit to the area with the RCHS, guided by Ken Hoole, as part of the Stockton and Darlington 150 events in 1975.

 

 

Stockton South goods coal staithes and yard June 75 J4409

 

 

Stockton R Tees site of SDR coal staithes on bend June 75 J4411

 

 

S&DR Tunnel branch Junction Class 37 down seen from Black Boy branch June 75 J4460

 

 

Simpasture Junction S&DR and right Clarence Railway June 75 J4463

 

 

Simpasture Junction Clarence Railway 1831 overbridge June 75 J4465

 

 

Etherley 08575 tip shunter 23rd May 87 C8489

 

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the old railways in County Durham photo’s which just show how rich our railway heritage is. In the first photo’ at Stockton South goods coal staithes and yard, from June, 1975, J4409, of the two hopper wagons visible, the first one looks to be of LNER origin with that distinctive brake lever and the different end details.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[russ p]

Great pictures David

Where was tunnel branch junction? Take it there was no tunnel

[Rob F]

Another visit to Bottesford and Bottesford West Junction for this afternoon's photos.

 

 

Bottesford West Junction Class 114 Nottingham to Skegness March 77 J5651.jpg

Bottesford West Junction Class 114 Nottingham to Skegness March 77 J5651

 

 

David

I am sure I am being dense here, but I can’t get my head around J5651. The train is heading for Skeggy so Grantham is behind the photographer. I thought Bottesford West was the junction for the GN line to Newark but this faced Nottingham, not Grantham, so what is the line in the picture?

 

Rob

[DaveF]

I am sure I am being dense here, but I can’t get my head around J5651. The train is heading for Skeggy so Grantham is behind the photographer. I thought Bottesford West was the junction for the GN line to Newark but this faced Nottingham, not Grantham, so what is the line in the picture?

 

Rob

 

 

There was a goods loop on the up side of the line. It could hold 70 wagons plus loco and brake van .   Photo showing more of it below. From ER Sectional Appendix Oct 72.

 

 

 

Edited to correct a detail.

David

Edited January 23, 2019 by DaveF

[DaveF]

Great pictures David

Where was tunnel branch junction? Take it there was no tunnel

 

 

I wasn't there that day (a good excuse? - probably not) but the junction was to the north of Shildon Tunnel on the line to Bishop Auckland.

 

The railways in the area were quite complicated.

 

There was the junction on to the Black Boy branch (which went to Black Boy colliery) and also over the top of the later Shildon tunnel to Shildon.  This branch was closed in the 1920s (Cobbs Atlas date).

 

There was also the junction with the  line to St Helens/West Auckland and then on to Barnard Castle.

 

There was also a short line to Adelaide colliery.

 

If I can find the right book I'll add a bit more.

 

I'm sure there are people here who know more than me.

 

David

[Rob F]

There was a goods loop on the up side of the line. It could hold 70 wagons plus loco and brake van .   Photo showing more of it below. From ER Sectional Appendix Oct 72.

 

 

Bottesford West Junction Class 114 Nottingham to Grantham April 78 J5996.jpg

 

Edited to correct a detail.

David

Thank you!

[russ p]

I looked up the black boy branch and basically it was replaced by shildon tunnel.

The railways in that part of Durham started contracting in early times as coal in that part of the coalfield was easier to mine and was the first part of the county to mine coal and hence the pits were worked out first

I think by the mid sixty's deep mining in that part of Durham had finished

[DaveF]

Great pictures David

Where was tunnel branch junction? Take it there was no tunnel

 

 

I looked up the black boy branch and basically it was replaced by shildon tunnel.

The railways in that part of Durham started contracting in early times as coal in that part of the coalfield was easier to mine and was the first part of the county to mine coal and hence the pits were worked out first

I think by the mid sixty's deep mining in that part of Durham had finished

 

I've done some more reading, it seems that the Tunnel branch was the name given to the line from Tunnel Junction  at the north end of Shildon Tunnel to Barnard Castle.

 

There was certainly a lot less mining in that part County Durham from around the 1950s onwards, I'm not sure of the exact closure dates of the pits, many closed much earlier.

 

The general trend was that as time passed the coal industry gradually moved to the east, exploiting deeper seams nearer the coast (and under the sea).

 

David

Edited January 23, 2019 by DaveF

[russ p]

The last two pits west of the A1 or ECML were Bearpark and Sacriston which closed in 84 and 85 respectively but neither had been rail served since the sixties ,not sure if their internal railways systems lasted until closure

[DaveF]

A few more photos between Newcastle and Carlisle today, some trains, some bits and pieces.

 

 

Stocksfield station building July 83 C6285

 

 

Hexham 9th June 84 C6500

 

 

Hexham 143019 Newcastle to Hexham 24th Feb 87 C8213

 

 

Warden Class 101 Newcastle to Carlisle 9th June 84 C6502

 

 

Brampton trackbed of branch to town 5th June 86 C7618

 

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Newcastle to Carlisle photo’s which all so full of interest. The first one of Stocksfield station building, in July, 1983, shows how well designed the buildings were. It would make a delightful model.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

Today we head northwards along the ECML from Newcastle for a few miles.

 

The Heaton photos were taken on an arranged visit.

 

 

Heaton Depot TPO van 20th Jan 90 C13918

 

 

Heaton Depot south end of sheds 20th Jan 90 C13921

 

 

Heaton Depot condemned coaches and old carriage shed 20th Jan 90 C13928

 

 

Heaton Depot old carriage shed 20th Jan 90 C13931

 

 

Benton up HST 43117 10th Aug 85 C7114

 

 

Killingworth 43153 up ex pass 23rd Dec 87 C9306

 

 

David

Edited January 25, 2019 by DaveF

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the ECML photo’s from Newcastle northwards. They are all so full of interest and nostalgia. I particularly like C13928, at Heaton Depot with three lines of condemned coaches in the old carriage shed on the 20th January, 1990. I can see some DMU cars amongst them, including what looks like the rear of a class 108 DMSL. I’m going by the exhaust pipes, the toilet filler pipes, and the tumblehome. Alongside, on the right, is a suburban high density TSL or TCL. There appears to be no toilet so I’ll suggest a TSL, class 116.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

1970s on the East Coast Main Line again today, starting south of Grantham and finishing south of Retford.

 

The child in the third photo will be over 45 now!

 

 

Corby Glen Class 55 up May 72 J2931

 

 

Burton le Coggles Class 47 1581 up Aug 71 J2728

 

 

Grantham probably 55010 down and Class 120 June 75 J4384

 

 

Barkston 254002 down May 78 J6059

 

 

Gamston Class 47 up Oct 75 J4991

 

 

David

Edited January 27, 2019 by DaveF

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the ECML photo’s from the south of Grantham. They are so full of interest, and bring back plenty of memories. The last one of Gamston with a class 47 on an up express, in October, 1975, J4991, shows up the rippling on the body side of the 47 which I’ve never seen on any model before. Is it not modelable?

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Davexoc]

Hi, Dave. I like the ECML photo’s from the south of Grantham. They are so full of interest, and bring back plenty of memories. The last one of Gamston with a class 47 on an up express, in October, 1975, J4991, shows up the rippling on the body side of the 47 which I’ve never seen on any model before. Is it not modelable?

As it isn't massive undulations on the real thing, to model it convincingly would be difficult. A bit like trying to get scale ripples in real water I would think.

I could just see you getting derisery comments on your painting skills if you tried to replicate it.

 

Dave

[leopardml2341]

J6059; HST set 254002 - first ER one I saw, heading north thro' Rotherham Masboro' on the old road. Presumably a test / delivery run.

[35A]

David,

 

J4384 is definitely not 55 011 - it has an aluminium, two-line, sans serif nameplate. It's a Haymarket loco and, having blown up and sharpened the image as much as I can, I think that it's 55 010. Of the four with twin line plates (all of which were in traffic in June 1975) I don't think that the plate is large enough for 21 and it can't be 19, as there is another photograph of that loco in June 75 (on www.napier-chronicles.co.uk), similarly taken from no. 1 end, showing that it had a damaged "domino" on the driver's side. Perhaps a typo?

 

Whatever, it's a lovely shot.

[DaveF]

David,

 

J4384 is definitely not 55 011 - it has an aluminium, two-line, sans serif nameplate. It's a Haymarket loco and, having blown up and sharpened the image as much as I can, I think that it's 55 010. Of the four with twin line plates (all of which were in traffic in June 1975) I don't think that the plate is large enough for 21 and it can't be 19, as there is another photograph of that loco in June 75 (on www.napier-chronicles.co.uk), similarly taken from no. 1 end, showing that it had a damaged "domino" on the driver's side. Perhaps a typo?

 

Whatever, it's a lovely shot.

 

Thanks very much for working out the likely number.

 

For once it's not a typo!

 

Both Dad and I didn't always write down the number of the locos we photographed during the 1970s, so numbers were often put in our catalogues from memory, others by looking at slides with a magnifying glass or by projecting them as big as possible.  Hence errors could appear.

 

From the late 70s/early 80s we both usually wrote down details as we took photos, so the numbers are a (bit) more accurate then.

 

David

[DaveF]

My PC has decide to update itself to Windows 10 version 1809 overnight.  As usual some thin gs have changed which are not mentioned in the windows information web pages.  Why do some upgrades alter setting?  It takes me weeks to get things back to normal - but it was just the same when I managed our network at work.

 

I don't think we've had any photos taken at Bressingham for a long time, so here are a few from 1972 and 1973.

 

They were taken on early Fujichrome film.  In the years before they were scanned the greens changed a lot so the colour rendering is not very accurate.

 

 

Bressingham Huslet ex Penrhyn Gwynedd Aug 72 C1128

 

 

Bressingham Stanier 2-6-4T 2500 Aug 72 J3082

 

 

Bressingham Schwartzkopf 60cm gauge Eigiau Aug 72 J3091

 

 

Bressingham 10 25 inch Royal Scot Aug 72 J3093

 

 

Bressingham Krupps Munnertreu Sept 73 J3369

 

 

Bressingham LMSR 6100 Royal Scot Sept 73 C1394

 

 

David

Edited January 27, 2019 by DaveF

[jwealleans]

As usual some things have changed which are not mentioned in the windows information web pages.  Why do some upgrades alter setting?

The cynic would say that it's because we're all unofficial Microsoft testers.

[DaveF]

This afternoon we look at a apart of the Great Central Railway, starting at the King George V bridge over the River Trent at Keadby and heading east to Grimsby, with a brief stop at Barnetby.

 

I went under the bridge many times in small boats in the 1960s but have only travelled over it about half a dozen times in a train.

 

 

Keadby King George V bridge May 76 J5229

 

 

Keadby Class 114 Grimsby to Doncaster May 76 J5230

 

 

Barnetby 142092 to Cleethorpes 30th May 91 C15855

 

 

Barnetby 158761 Cleethorpes to Manchester 26th July 2000 C25015

 

 

Grimsby 26th July 2000 C25008

 

 

David

[melmerby]

My PC has decide to update itself to Windows 10 version 1809 overnight.  As usual some thin gs have changed which are not mentioned in the windows information web pages.  Why do some upgrades alter setting?  It takes me weeks to get things back to normal - but it was just the same when I managed our network at work.

David

It's odd how these updates affect some and not others.

I have two PCs on 1809 and haven't noticed any difference. I rarely do see anything untoward after an update.

Two others in the house are still on 1803, one because it has Intel HD4000 graphics and so far are not being given the update

 

The worst problem I have had after an update was that all the icons shifted to the LH side and nothing in the settings would cure it. MS didn't mention it, but after another update it was back to normal.

 

Cheers

 

Keith

Edited January 27, 2019 by melmerby