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47 minutes ago, AY Mod said:

 

Normally we get a model in advance so that the review comes out about the same time as the shops receive stock but with the 90 the mags and shops will receive theirs at about the same time due to waiting for the decoders. The review samples should be DCC-fitted examples for the reasons you've stated.

 

We did get chance to have a chat and a play a couple of weeks ago down at Kernow's opening.

Mouthwatering; I’m dribbling down my shirt! Thank you, Andy, especially for asking all the questions I wanted answered. (Especially third party sound decoders and, at last, directional cab lights.)

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47 minutes ago, AY Mod said:

 

Normally we get a model in advance so that the review comes out about the same time as the shops receive stock but with the 90 the mags and shops will receive theirs at about the same time due to waiting for the decoders. The review samples should be DCC-fitted examples for the reasons you've stated.

 

We did get chance to have a chat and a play a couple of weeks ago down at Kernow's opening.

 

 

I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on those ... they look superb!!

 

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10 minutes ago, GordonC said:

 

I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on those ... they look superb!!

 

 

The spirit of Sid James ....   :P

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Posted (edited)

It looks really nice!!! I'll wait for something more suitable to my liking and buy one. EWS or Stobart maybe?

 

Overall it looks to be a really nice model. I do tend to agree with @YesTor with the points he raised earlier. There's no real "wow-factor" in the model apart from the DCC operated pantograph. A lot of the detail like the TDM cables etc. are over-sized. But it captures the look of the Class 90, I can always replace them and also remove the unrealistic second lower arm.

 

I also noticed in the video that the upper arm doesn't raise as much and looks a lot more horizontally placed. Normally pantographs work in such a way where the upper and lower arm raise and lower to the same degree. 

Will this stop me from getting one? NO! I will certainly buy one when it comes out in the EWS or Stobart livery.

 

Looking forward to it....

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1 hour ago, AY Mod said:

 

Normally we get a model in advance so that the review comes out about the same time as the shops receive stock but with the 90 the mags and shops will receive theirs at about the same time due to waiting for the decoders. The review samples should be DCC-fitted examples for the reasons you've stated.

 

We did get chance to have a chat and a play a couple of weeks ago down at Kernow's opening.

 

 

 

6 minutes of 2 men talking and 1 minute 11 seconds of the actual locomotive... fire the director!  You'll be showing us how to open the box next.

 

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3 minutes ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said:

You'll be showing us how to open the box next.

 

 

You mean you've not watched that video yet?  ;)

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Crikey what a model. The features are really outstanding and put the similarly priced Hornby 87 in quite stark contrast in some respects, particularly the lighting functionality. 

 

From this batch I'm in for an IC Swallow example, but with a WCML themed layout there is scope for many of these...

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I am impressed. The pantograph looks like an exception piece of model engineering.

It sounds like they have selected a very suitable decoder too. I had feared that they would use an otherwise low-end decoder with the necessary servo drive hardcoded.

Also nice to hear that they have provided a shortlist of recommended decoders with the required CV settings.

 

So the long wait has been so they could get the details just right.. I much prefer this to something produced to a deadline with known glaring faults included.

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Posted (edited)

Good video. Cleared a lot of the questions up. Does look quite impressive. I think for DCC users it certainly will have that playability and Wow factor, with the additional £39.95 decoder . Its something different and a first in UK outline after all.  The functionality for DC with the panel and light switches looks good too, but maybe not quite as remarkable . If you model the WCML then you are going to get one . The Dapol 68 was one that got me back into the current scene just because the real thing looked so good and the model very good . I've now got 2 of them !  The 90 I think without the DCC functionality will be less of an impulsive buy .

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1 hour ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said:

fire the director! 

 

I've had words with him and he's responded with "*** off and get your own video next time". ;)

 

I do have another video to edit where Chris and I open a cardboard box sitting on the back doorstep.

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6 minutes ago, AY Mod said:

 

I do have another video to edit where Chris and I open a cardboard box sitting on the back doorstep.

 

 

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Looks fantastic - can't wait till this arrives and thanks for the great video - answered pretty much every question I had! 

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Thanks to Andy, Bachmann & Kernow for the video, really good stuff and have now ordered the Freightliner 90...obviously I'm sold :)

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Here I am impatiently waiting for this model and you put that video up- can't take this torture anymore!

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Posted (edited)

Have to admit I was a bit of a disbeliever about the class 90 decoder, but having seen the Andy York video at Kernow the cost of the decoder I do not think exorbitant considering its functions, also at the time not realising it was a Zimo decoder. The 90 does appear to be  an excellent model and I have ordered one from my local model shop

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Posted (edited)

Hi guys! Just been given confirmation that the Class 90's are very much nearly here, and apparently in the country - we're not sure when they're going to be ready to be shipped but we're expecting it to be very soon!

 

I'll post some pics up as and when they arrive! :)

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Hi little Dan 

does this mean decoders have arrived too?

thanks 

mark

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2 hours ago, Markwj said:

Hi little Dan 

does this mean decoders have arrived too?

thanks 

mark

 

Hi Mark - no confirmation either way but given that they are not going to release the one without the other, I would guess it means they are either here or very close to arriving! :)HTH 

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Posted (edited)

Just out of curiosity why haven't Bachmann released a DCC Sound chip as well to go with their 90 alongside the DCC chip?

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11 minutes ago, classy52 said:

Just out of curiosity why haven't Bachmann released a DCC Sound chip as well to go with their 90 alongside the DCC chip?

 

I may be wrong but haven't Bachmann backed out of the sound market?

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16 minutes ago, RedgateModels said:

 

I may be wrong but haven't Bachmann backed out of the sound market?

They are still releasing sound fitted models and have now decided to do both analogue and sound fitted examples in the same Livery. Although you may be referring to whether Bachmann obtain the sound files themselves which is something I don't know.

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52 minutes ago, RedgateModels said:

 

I may be wrong but haven't Bachmann backed out of the sound market?

 

No I don't think they have as they are now releasing sound versions of their new releases in modern image which is why it is a bit strange they haven't provided one for the Class 90.

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1 hour ago, Markwj said:

They are still releasing sound fitted models and have now decided to do both analogue and sound fitted examples in the same Livery. Although you may be referring to whether Bachmann obtain the sound files themselves which is something I don't know.

A good idea to do both sound and non-sound releases.

we just need to convince them now to offered weathered and unweathered of the same releases.

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16 hours ago, classy52 said:

 

No I don't think they have as they are now releasing sound versions of their new releases in modern image which is why it is a bit strange they haven't provided one for the Class 90.

 

they might be wanting to see what the uptake is first on the non-sound models to gauge demand. I cant think of any of the Bachmann first release batch of models from new tooling that has been fitted with sound at the factory. That tends to come later

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1 hour ago, GordonC said:

 

they might be wanting to see what the uptake is first on the non-sound models to gauge demand. I cant think of any of the Bachmann first release batch of models from new tooling that has been fitted with sound at the factory. That tends to come later

 

The new Class 158 will be launched with sound fitted options from the start, in fact they have extended the sound fitted options to all the first release paint schemes of the model, not just the Regional Railways livery as first announced, which suggests they will be launching all new models with the option of sound from now on.  I suspect the lack of a sound fitted option for the 90 as of yet is due to having to focus their attention on getting a chip to power the pantograph and the fact they were in production when they announced the change in policy this year regarding sound fitment.

Hopefully Mr Bif will come up trumps with a sound chip as soon as they hit the shops, especially as Bachmann seem to be providing all the information needed to do so.

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