mikesndbs Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 As often happens after seeing a random image then checking out YouTube I have fallen in love lol. So I was wondering where best to try and buy one of these? Assume they are all H0? Thanks for any tips 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 As often happens after seeing a random image then checking out YouTube I have fallen in love lol. So I was wondering where best to try and buy one of these? Assume they are all H0? Thanks for any tips You could try Arcadia Rail they are very helpful and I've found them very reliable. ( ironically as I'm typing this reply their ad is flashing at the bottom of the page !) p.s. I like your choice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted May 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) That's a Swiss SBB Ce6/8 and available from Trix or Roco in HO. There is a brown version too. I used to have one each of the Roco ones and they were superb models in detail and running plus cheaper than the Trix / Marklin ones. N gauge ones are around too. Arcadia, Winco, Gaugemaster amongst others and of course eBay. Edited May 25, 2015 by PaulRhB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) There I was thinking about GWR bogie well wagons! You are correct re H0 - there have been various attempts AFAIK. The only 00 version I am aware of is the old Kitmaster kit (no motor and collectible of course!). https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Kitmaster+crocodile&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=Yf5iVdDlM4TD7gaUpIDoAg Edited May 25, 2015 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Hello Mike, Why not try your local shop: http://morris-models.co.uk/model-railways/2229923 I would suggest the Roco model is somewhat 'finer' than the Trix model and may well run smoother. That said, the Trix model will last a lifetime and if you lightly grease it's gear train, is not too noisy. If you wanted any further refinements like sound, again I would suggest Roco as I find Trix sound somewhat artificial but it's all subjective really. HTH, John E. PS great choice, there are also Austrian and German versions available too!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 Thanks all, this is all way out of my understanding. Need to find a stock number of something for the one in the pic, green with that same side rod arrangement is what I'd want. Can't seem to find any to buy new, what sort of price would I expect to pay? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 Hello Mike, Why not try your local shop: http://morris-models.co.uk/model-railways/2229923 I would suggest the Roco model is somewhat 'finer' than the Trix model and may well run smoother. That said, the Trix model will last a lifetime and if you lightly grease it's gear train, is not too noisy. If you wanted any further refinements like sound, again I would suggest Roco as I find Trix sound somewhat artificial but it's all subjective really. HTH, John E. PS great choice, there are also Austrian and German versions available too!!! Hmm A message that you sent to the following recipient could not be delivered due to a permanent error. ** The remote server 216.40.42.4 responded with: ** info@morris-models.co.uk 554:5.7.1 <info@morris-models.co.uk>: Recipient address rejected: user info@morris-models.co.uk does not exist This message was created automatically by mail delivery software on the server avasout01. Will try calling, only up the road from me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANT Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) Hello Mike The model in your picture is a Roco 63849 HO SBB Ce6/8 Crocodile Electric Loco Green III. Though looking around I cannot find one, might not be available new anymore. I found something similar at Arcadia Rail, but are closed this week http://www.arcadiarailonline.co.uk/Roco-63744-OBB-Rh118903-ELECTRIC-LOCOMOTIVE-III- Thanks SEEYAANT Edited May 26, 2015 by ANT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonman Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 It'll end in tears... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Contikits appear to have one in brown for £145.00 Model number 43539. Listed here - http://www.contikits.com/Page10.htm Mal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 As you love Crocodiles here's another one. My favourite, the OBB 1020. Roco do a model of this one. I used to own one, superb detail and smooth runner. Mal 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 This item on eBay (from Hong Kong) might be of interest - reference number 281697635843. At least it will save you over £120 pounds, and it looks quite good - quality seems vastly better than the equivalent GBL offerings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Crocodiles come in many sizes From Z gauge thro' to 7.25" gauge!! Pics attached show one of the very large ones! 7.25" and a couple on one of my garden lines from the past in 45mm ( G scale) These are photos of photos!! Also woth a look at Rails Sheffield SH & Ebay listings they sometimes list a few ( Ihave used this source frequently for many items never a problem) 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 For info....... the BIG Croc in the above picture was at Tan - y Bwlch station on the Ffestiniog Rly, A temporary length of 7.25" track was laid in the car park occasionally for a few days so that locos could be run, The Gentelman that arranged this had a 7.25 railway in the grounds of his property in Llanfrothen which is betrween Porthmadog & Tremadoc, I forget his name, but he did write some Railway books including 'How to Drive a Steam Engine' weel worth a read! There were usually 3 locos in the carpark, The Croc, a Massive 2-8-2 8-2 SAR type Garrat named Mount Kilimanjarrow, and I think it was 1 2-6-o Amercan style NG steam loco. I know that the Croc was built by a company called Pfeiferbahn ( Preston area) who dealt in mainly 16mm Gardenraliway items, but occasionally built for other scales, The owner told me he had bought an LGB Crocodile to use as a guide to building the big one. All this was in the 80s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted May 26, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) Steve, Gent in question is Brian Hollingsworth Edit here we go, unfortunately he passed on in 2001. https://www.festipedia.org.uk/wiki/Brian_Hollingsworth Edited May 26, 2015 by PaulRhB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted May 26, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2015 As you love Crocodiles here's another one. My favourite, the OBB 1020. Roco do a model of this one. I used to own one, superb detail and smooth runner. OBB 1020 003.jpg Mal I don't think the orange livery suited them at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Brown or Green ones look a little more refined I think. All this Crocodile talk has now got me wanting one myself again for the Garden Line currently under ( quite slow construction!!) Oh Dear that would mean catenary wouldnt it??!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 Thanks for all the relies chaps, most kind. What a fascinating locomotive type this is! Still feel very our of my depth as have never looked at anything other than UK stuff. Have made a number of enquiries but no joy as yet. About how much should I be looking to pay for a very good second hand version of this? Can't seem to access the classified section here to check? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) Around £100, continental is more expensive than UK but the quality is superb (although looking at eBay this may be a bit low!) Suggest you look at Rails Sheffield Ebay site to get a guide on prices Got a Nice LNER 4-6-2-2 Hush Hush nearly £3K on!! Edited May 26, 2015 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 .....I would suggest the Roco model is somewhat 'finer' .... .....apart from the huge flanges on the wheels. Roco seem to be a bit undecided over whether to use RP25-88 (fine) or the coarse-grade flanges - some of their newer models have the former, and some the latter! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittannia Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Trix are bringing out HO. Swiss Brown Crocodile item 22953 comes with sound 12 functions, metal construction, 2 flywheels, due around September 2015. Trix are owned by Marklin and provide excellent models. Also due around September is a smaller type of crocodile called a Seetal Crocodile item 22246 this also has sound, If you cannot get hold of a Trix catalogue , look on Gaugemaster website, Both these models are quoted by Trix as one time series. Hope this helps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorGCB&W Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 OK I've come to this one nearly 2 years late, but had to report that that's me driving the Croc at Tan y Bwlch and I was involved in the construction of the beast. It was indeed the brainchild of Brian Hollingsworth who built the body. The bogies were the work of Don Fifer (Pfeifferbahn), the beautifully metal bashed and distinctive bonnets were by Warren Shephard (7mm modeller of note these days) and I was charged (!) with the electrics. As I recall each bogie had a 1hp (I think) 36v motor controlled by a commercial chopper style control box amidships with the lead acid batteries. All conrol was from a cable connected hand held box which controlled air brakes, air whistle, forward/reverse and power controller- all of which presented quite a challenge design wise as it had to fail safe in the event of the controller being disabled.. The piece de resistance were the RhB station bell sounds recorded to a ROM chip (in 1987 !) and donated by a Swiss gentleman I believe and this necessitated the Croc to have its own sound system! The intention was to have the battery charging done by way of the pantograph (which Brian lovingly crafted mainly from Meccano) from catenary contained within its shed which Brian had speciallly made and was installed on its own siding alongside the Cafe but this was never finalised. The railway itself ran for several seasons and all the equipment was Brians and later returned to his home to enable completion of his Croesor Junction and Pacific Railway. Other locos of Brians that ran there were :-The EAR Garratt "Mount Kilimanjaro" lately with its sister at Weston Park, "The Queen of Clorado" ( D&RG K27 2-8-2), The Darj- Darjeeling B class and briefly "White Fire", a Bullock Pacific ( Originally "Monarch", then "Audrey" and when Brian aquired it, "Bubbles"- he gave me one of the plates!) regauged from and now back to 10.25" at Eastleigh. Happy days pre H&S police and Safety Cases!! Nobody got run over, burnt or electrocuted. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted March 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2017 I was aware of crocodiles as a lad courtesy of the Kitmaster kit, and during a family touring holly in 1966, while driving between Lausanne and Martigny up the Rhone Valley prior to going over the Simplon, mother, who knew more about railways than she ever let on, shouted out 'look, a crocodile', and there it was, pacing us at about 40mph on a heavy freight. One of my favourite railway memories! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 Hi everyone. Finally I got one And at a really good price, seems to be unused She also appears at the end of this video, fully fitted out with handrails etc. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 And by request the Crocs under the wires 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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