RMweb Gold Andy7 Posted September 26, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2015 I think it looks fantastic. I'm also pretty sure that in the flesh it looks much better than low quality pics. The HST in my opinion suits a one simple colour livery. I will say it now but give it a couple of years and it will be the must have model. People will be crying out for repaints! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chy Mengrowyn Paul Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 That's if Hornby gets it correct..... ! First time the HST has made it to Cornwall and I missed it. Never mind. Unless you have seen the livery with branding, keep an open mind. I didn't like it at first and neither did the rest of us on depot. Now it's complete, it looks a darn sight better regardless of conditions. As for those of you upset about how much it costs, again I shall mention the stock needs/needed repainting as per maintenance exams anyhow. Expect any models to sell well ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Went to the Epping and Ongar Railway Diesel Gala last Sunday and saw a very shiny 08 836. Did look good in the new livery though. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I find the numbers on doors a strange idea tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted September 27, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2015 The photos above, from bgman (sorry I don't know your first name), illustrate how unimaginative the whole "look" appears on a typical British cloudy and dull afternoon. The green appears very cold and unwelcoming to me. BUT I've not seen it in the flesh, so might be completely wrong................... I have to admit that it does a bit on some pictures. Could just be one of those that's very difficult to photograph well in dull conditions though. I'll still take it over something bright and garish though even if it isn't, "smart" beats "imaginative" for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 27, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) Went to the Epping and Ongar Railway Diesel Gala last Sunday and saw a very shiny 08 836. Did look good in the new livery though. GWR logo on one side only. I guess if it spends it time at Old Oak, then only one side is visible to the passing trains...................... Cheers, Mick Edited September 27, 2015 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted September 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2015 I am not a design house and don't feel snobbish at all. It simply was a pretty poor symbol; looked at from any distance it became a mush, and it wasn't immediately apparent to me what a heraldic-style stag's head, for example, had to do with a railway freight company. I guess EWS came to feel the same, given what little prominence they gave to it in their liveries. Paul Hi Paul, To be fair, they did give it prominence on wagons built after it was designed... TEAs: (photo courtesy Tom Smith) and HOAs on Martyn Read's site: https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/H/HOA-bogie-aggregate-hoppers#!/i-GzvC7f2/A cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2015 I have to admit that it does a bit on some pictures. Could just be one of those that's very difficult to photograph well in dull conditions though. I'll still take it over something bright and garish though even if it isn't, "smart" beats "imaginative" for me. I've seen the livery on a dmu against backlighting (daylight sunshine) on top of an embankment and it looked quite good, and it stood out against lineside greenery which was also in its favour. So yes - thus far I quite like it and as I've already said it makes a nice change from the 'fairground' liveries such as Virgin's latest effort on the ECML which looks more suited to a 'bus than a train. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Hi Paul, To be fair, they did give it prominence on wagons built after it was designed... Thanks Ben. I didn't express myself clearly: they used it straight after the competition (someone else referred to the new 66s), but as time passed it seemed to shrivel away. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I find the numbers on doors a strange idea tho. Help me! I see numbers beneath the cab windows in the traditional place. Always nice to see a freshly painted shunter; they're usually in a deplorable state. Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Star - I knew I'd missed one....... but then again, they all look the same. cheers, Mick Which one of them is this one then? They all look the same to me, and I can't read the nameplate.... Stewart 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Help me! I see numbers beneath the cab windows in the traditional place. Always nice to see a freshly painted shunter; they're usually in a deplorable state. Brian. HST is on a door, 08 is ok, 57 is high up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 27, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2015 Which one of them is this one then? They all look the same to me, and I can't read the nameplate.... 01_110_4001_7760 Crewe 31-05-2003..jpg Stewart HST is on a door, 08 is ok, 57 is high up. But the number on this 57 is low down..... (Aren't all panniers 57's?) Cheers, Mick I have some very limited knowledge of panniers - 15xx have outside Walschaerts - there's a wheel size difference between 64xx and 74xx, 94xx have shorter tanks, like a 15xx, there's a 8750 that I think has a Collet cab - more rounded. 16xx are quite small. I think there are others, but they're still all green............ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 If the pannier tank got out of the way, we could have a better look at one of Stanier's pacifics....... Much better than all this green nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2015 Which one of them is this one then? They all look the same to me, and I can't read the nameplate.... 01_110_4001_7760 Crewe 31-05-2003..jpg Stewart Oh dear oh dear - not very nice to see incorrect livery details on a model, even one that big (or perhaps it's a real one, ah of course ... ... tehehe). Any it is indeed a 57XX but it is clearly 'preserved' and it definitely has an error in the livery (hint - distinct shortage of yellow). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 HST is on a door, 08 is ok, 57 is high up. And 165/166s now have them in the middle of the front on the yellow warning panel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Oh dear oh dear - not very nice to see incorrect livery details on a model, even one that big (or perhaps it's a real one, ah of course ... ... tehehe). Any it is indeed a 57XX but it is clearly 'preserved' and it definitely has an error in the livery (hint - distinct shortage of yellow). I did notice the yellow warning panels on the ends were missing. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Are the letters on the HST fashioned from metal of some sort? Looks a bit that way in the pics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1059 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Oh dear oh dear - not very nice to see incorrect livery details on a model, even one that big (or perhaps it's a real one, ah of course ... ... tehehe). Any it is indeed a 57XX but it is clearly 'preserved' and it definitely has an error in the livery (hint - distinct shortage of yellow). Blue RA disc applied instead of yellow ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Taz Posted September 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2015 Have the interiors of the HST standard class coaches been refurbished? I've had a look on t'interweb but can't find any photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2015 Blue RA disc applied instead of yellow ? Yes - of course it is very date dependent relating to how long a particular livery lasted so it could logically be either I suppose and it also depends on when teh posiytion was changed (the usual opinion on that is 'wartime') so I treat with a little bit of care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2015 Have the interiors of the HST standard class coaches been refurbished? I've had a look on t'interweb but can't find any photos. Definitely the case on the compo conversion Brian (because it is of course effectively a new interior in the Standard Class part of the vehicle). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted September 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2015 I've only just come across this thread and don't fancy trawling through 15 pages so apologies if I'm duplicating anyone else's idea, My own thought is that the original BR livery but in traditional GWR colours would have been better. Mainly-green power cars and chocolate/cream in place of blue/grey throughout would look fabulous. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I like the new liver and the GWR branding ,now when the MML franchise comes up perhaps the new owner will bring the LMS livery now that really will be a good idea after all they were the best! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chy Mengrowyn Paul Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) New seat covers in grey and green in standard in New livery HST set. Cast GWR on power car sides and 57 just to recap..... . Edited September 29, 2015 by Chy Mengrowyn Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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