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Nope......you've got me there. first time I have heard of it, and if it wasn't for that photo........ :no:

 

The lining appears to make a panel too - any idea where and when it was taken?

Same here. Had you merely asked if it had ever run with green cylinders I'd have said 'No.'

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As outshopped in 1960 the cylinders were definitely black:— http://www.swindonviewpoint.com/sites/default/files/6-37a-1%20GWR%20Locomotive%20Evening%20Star%201960.jpg

 

Still black at Derby in August '61:— https://www.flickr.com/photos/rgadsdon/6875032121/

 

It was in bits at Crewe in Feb 1963... https://www.flickr.com/photos/24041160@N02/16032796451/

 

...and in bits again at Swindon in March '64:— https://www.flickr.com/photos/razeldazel/9023578185/

 

Some other shots, all from 1964:—

 

OXF - http://steamtube.ning.com/photo/92220-evening-star-oxford-mpd-64

CED 7/64 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/taffytank/8483553014/sizes/h/

Seaton Jct 9/64 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/64518788@N05/13985905423/

 

Another (undated) picture of it:—  http://www.railwayana.net/guides/Loco_Train/loco%20nameplates/loco_nameplates_steam.htm(Scroll down to the bottom of the page & it's the last image.)

 

So.. it looks like the crime was committed by persons unknown in 'A' Shop with a 2" brush around March/April 1964.

 

Pete S.

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Er how would they swap identities between a black 9F and a green one? Swindon could simply swap name and number plates on Castles etc but repainting a complete loco?  Mind you the "Highly skilled Workmen" at Crewe may have damaged the original beyond economic repair making a quick repaint of a couple of locos a better option if "92220" had to run fast on specials...

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It's a little known fact that she was first built as a 2-8-2.....

Now that really is a can of worms…

 

I do like those green cylinders, unusual but quite nice.

I wonder if something like a std class 2 tank had been the last would it have had the same treatment?

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It's a little known fact that she was first built as a 2-8-2.....

Can I have a reference please. Most references say that the BR Standard Heavy Freight loco was originally intended to be a 2-8-2 version of the Britannia and a nicely detailed weight diagram was produced. When Riddles saw the diagram he decided that the loco would be a 2-10-0 with a non standard boiler. There were more of those non standard boilers made than any other design of BR boiler! See http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=16547147809&searchurl=tn=british%20railway%20standard%20steam%20locomotives&sortby=3 .

 

In 1968 Carnforth shed took the rear coupling rods off at least one 2-10-0 and had it running as a 2-8-2.

 

Back to the OP, I wonder if the green cylinder covers date from the preservation era. The NRM do some funny un-historical things with their running locos and the photo depicts an unusually clean Evening Star, even to the headlights.

 

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Back to the OP, I wonder if the green cylinder covers date from the preservation era. The NRM do some funny un-historical things with their running locos and the photo depicts an unusually clean Evening Star, even to the headlights.

 

Regards

That image comes from a video that was shot prior to the end of steam, so it is definitely not from preserved days.

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This is a link to the video.

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-wQ3a9zU7rw

 

The image shows up at around 40 seconds in.

Thank you for the link. I'm really not sure about the provenance of that picture. It comes after shots at Bath but that doesn't by itself show that the photo was taken during BR service. Evening Star is just too clean for it to be believable. Even the headlamps are spotless.

 

There are lots of stills and video of it on the last Pines Express and it wasn't that clean!

 

Sorry, but I think there is a doubt.

 

Regards

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There is a precedent for this 72007 Clan Mackintosh had green cylinders and orange lining in 1962, maybe as a result of a visit to the same works as 92220.

A number of photos and comments exist, eg. BR Standard Pacifics in Colour (Ian Allan).

 

 

Dave Franks

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Thank you for the link. I'm really not sure about the provenance of that picture. It comes after shots at Bath but that doesn't by itself show that the photo was taken during BR service. Evening Star is just too clean for it to be believable. Even the headlamps are spotless.

There are lots of stills and video of it on the last Pines Express and it wasn't that clean!

Sorry, but I think there is a doubt.

Regards

It does look very clean however BR did still employ cleaners so it's not unbelievable that it's pre-withdrawal just because it's clean. It also looks dirtier than the photos from the 1980s posted above.

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Obviously the green cylindered Evening Star is the one that went into the Strategic Steam Reserve and is currently quietly snoozing under a Welsh mountain whilst the black cylindered imposter takes her place in the national collection.

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Thank you for the link. I'm really not sure about the provenance of that picture. It comes after shots at Bath but that doesn't by itself show that the photo was taken during BR service. Evening Star is just too clean for it to be believable. Even the headlamps are spotless.

 

There are lots of stills and video of it on the last Pines Express and it wasn't that clean!

 

Sorry, but I think there is a doubt.

 

Regards

Surely the selection of photos from 1964 in post 6 are proof enough? Quite clearly green in the photos at Cardiff and Seaton.

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