Wickham Green Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 It almost certainly wouldn't have components in common with anything besides other LBSCR wagons. Few (if any) wagons built by that company even conformed to RCH standards and the SR shifted most of those they retained to the Isle of Wight or the Engineer's Department to prevent them straying. I presume that what little fish traffic the SR did handle went in utility vans. John Can't comment on the vereacity of the I.W.S.R.'s wagon livery and I certainly didn't mean to imply that the 'Brighton' van had any family resemblence whatsoever with the the cattle wagon. Though there were, of course, significant fishing ports on the Southern none could compare with the likes of Grimsby, Fleetwood, Brixham or Peterhead so a deadicated fish fleet was probably not justified : as you say, utility vans would have carried much of what traffic was available ( they all had Decolite floors so could be washed out afterwards ) but smaller consignments - whether from local ports or from Billingsgate - would have been in the guards van : perhaps NOT the one the guard was travelling in in high summer ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Did see today that Hornby has modified the images of the Maunsell and Bulleid Cattle wagons to their iconic side on view profile. However when I was looking at the SR Bullied version using the zoom function, I noticed that the wagon number plate seems to have six numbers rather than five... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Did see today that Hornby has modified the images of the Maunsell and Bulleid Cattle wagons to their iconic side on view profile. However when I was looking at the SR Bullied version using the zoom function, I noticed that the wagon number plate seems to have six numbers rather than five... They haven't put an 'S' prefix on it have they ? .......... a handful of early B.R.-built wagons had plates with ( non-'B' ) prefixes and that might have applied to the cattle wagons in B.R. livery - but would be wrong for S.R. livery, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor7598 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I read somewhere that the SR cattle wagon is due for release this month. Does anyone know if this is still the case ?. Very much looking forward to this one. ( two ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTrucks Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I read somewhere that the SR cattle wagon is due for release this month. Does anyone know if this is still the case ?. Very much looking forward to this one. ( two ). 10th. November according to the Hornby site: http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/br-ex-sr-cattle-wagon-maunsell-1.html Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor7598 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Just noticed a small cock-up on the BR liveried Maunsell cattle wagon. The builders plate has SR at the top, so presumably it is a representation of the plate originally fitted from new. If this is the case only the wagon number would have been on the casting. But it seems to have the S prefix cast in as well. Not nit picking, it looks like a gorgeous wagon. Also many thanks, Martin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted October 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) Just noticed a small cock-up on the BR liveried Maunsell cattle wagon. The builders plate has SR at the top, so presumably it is a representation of the plate originally fitted from new. If this is the case only the wagon number would have been on the casting. But it seems to have the S prefix cast in as well. Not nit picking, it looks like a gorgeous wagon. Also many thanks, Martin. If it was SR-built it would have retained its original plate, the only difference being that the R would not normally be picked out in white. It would not have had S at the start of the number. Edited October 13, 2016 by TheSignalEngineer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big James Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Noticed that these are now in the coming soon Section of the website. Big james Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Also noticed it's now gone up to £21.99, Had a few of these on order, but now seeing the new price, I will be cancelling my order. Edited October 20, 2016 by darren01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted October 20, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2016 Also noticed it's now gone up to £21.99, Had a few of these on order, but now seeing the new price, I will be cancelling my order. What price were they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted October 20, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Also noticed it's now gone up to £21.99, Had a few of these on order, but now seeing the new price, I will be cancelling my order. The true cost of an accurately modelled cattle wagon? OK, they've gone up three quid; wouldn't it be more logical to just buy one fewer? Or weren't you really that fussed about having what appears (from the pictures) to be a superb Southern Railway/Region model in the first place? The kit alternative is a heavy whitemetal job and no cheaper and I, for one, won't be attempting to scratch-build a batch of these to save weight or money. Prices have risen, fact, and, until and unless Sterling does a fairly rapid imitation of Lazarus, we ain't seen nothing yet. The prices of much more than model trains are already on the move and hard decisions will have to be taken. I'm 64 and everything I buy costs multiples of what I remember paying in my younger days. I bought my first motorbike for less than the price of one of these models and the tank wasn't big enough to hold a pounds-worth of petrol. A modern equivalent would set me back about £400 and filling it up would cost more than my first week's wages. Best not to think too hard about it. If I really want something (these wagons qualify); I'll have it, but almost everything outside my real modelling interests now gets ignored to ensure that stays possible. Impulse buying requires much stronger impulses these days! John Edited October 20, 2016 by Dunsignalling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted October 20, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2016 On the flip side I have just pre-ordered both the BR livery versions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor7598 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Here Here ! From the images of the two versions shown so far, it looks as though Hornby's SR cattle wagon is about to set a new benchmark for RTR wagons. If the new price is a problem and a modeller already has a rake of Bachmann / Oxford etc. cattle wagons, why not have just one of the new Hornby wagons to make up a train with a variety of types. This would be prototypical. especially in BR days. Hope you already have a guards van for the end, Bachmann's are now over £30 !. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Here Here ! From the images of the two versions shown so far, it looks as though Hornby's SR cattle wagon is about to set a new benchmark for RTR wagons. If the new price is a problem and a modeller already has a rake of Bachmann / Oxford etc. cattle wagons, why not have just one of the new Hornby wagons to make up a train with a variety of types. This would be prototypical. especially in BR days. Hope you already have a guards van for the end, Bachmann's are now over £30 !. That is exactly what I will be doing (though I'll be buying 3 of them). Will make a nice cattle train. The good news is I brought my SR pilboxs when they first came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor7598 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 That is exactly what I will be doing (though I'll be buying 3 of them). Will make a nice cattle train. The good news is I brought my SR pilboxs when they first came out. I'm having one of each type, in BR(S) livery. Like you I purchased a pillbox when new, the one with the stove chimney right by the ducket !!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted October 20, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2016 I'm having one of each type, in BR(S) livery. Like you I purchased a pillbox when new, the one with the stove chimney right by the ducket !!. I still haven't got round to correcting mine yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 Release date for both versions has been moved to the 30/11/2016 now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big James Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 The day after I get paid or just before Christmas either way it's a win win situation Big james 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Talk of cattle trains reminds me that something like 50% of cattle trains would be loaded with cattle ............. would some kind manufacturer please produce a range of 4mm scale ( not 3.5mm scale ) bovines in a material SIGNIFICANTLY lighter than whitemetal - thanks ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Talk of cattle trains reminds me that something like 50% of cattle trains would be loaded with cattle ............. would some kind manufacturer please produce a range of 4mm scale ( not 3.5mm scale ) bovines in a material SIGNIFICANTLY lighter than whitemetal - thanks ! Why not suggest to ModelU. Our generation used Airfix cows. They would, of course, also carry other larger livestock - horses (not good ones!), sheep etc. Paul Edited November 8, 2016 by hmrspaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Why not suggest to ModelU. Our generation used Airfix cows. They would, of course, also carry other larger livestock - horses (not good ones!), sheep etc. Paul If I remember rightly, Airfix cows didn't come as a herd of cattle but as a mixed farmyard so a full cattle train would need many sets ( one per couple of wagons perhaps ) and would leave a flock of sheep and several coops-full of hens ( + sties of pigs ? ) spare ............ and they were moulded in in a horrible 'soapy' plastic ( polythene ? ) which wouldn't take paint nicely - OK if you want a herd of White Parks perhaps !!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 A bit much for small scale but we could also use micro sound cube equipped cattle wagons for "the cattle are lowing" effect around the Christmas tree. I wholeheartedly agree that the 4 mm world needs additional model cattle to fill the wagons and stock pens that these wonderful new cattle wagons will engender. The new Oxford NE wagons could use them too.... Come on Hornby, where's the beef....and mutton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 9, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2016 And the C word is said. Come on people lets keep it clean until December. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 A bit much for small scale but we could also use micro sound cube equipped cattle wagons for "the cattle are lowing" effect around the Christmas tree. I wholeheartedly agree that the 4 mm world needs additional model cattle to fill the wagons and stock pens that these wonderful new cattle wagons will engender. The new Oxford NE wagons could use them too.... Come on Hornby, where's the beef....and mutton. Don't forget the Oxford cattle would have to be identical on both sides .......... and I guess the udder would be missing !!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Don't forget the Oxford cattle would have to be identical on both sides .......... and I guess the udder would be missing !!?! Bulls then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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