RMweb Gold 57xx Posted November 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2016 Patiently waiting for the Maunsell version in SR brown... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 Patiently waiting for the Maunsell version in SR brown... In the meantime, my BR Maunsell examples shall be travelling to be refurbished into SR livery 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Patiently waiting for the Maunsell version in SR brown... I repainted my Tri-ang cattle wagons SR brown. You could repaint yours after dismantling it. To gain confidence you could try repainting some old Tri-ang wagons first which you can buy for about £3 each and get some transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Has anyone got a link to a SR van as seen in service please. There is a picture of one on page 70 of the Hornby 2016 handbook. This is Maunsell s53629 taken by Mike King. It looks like it is in Southern livery but there are no SR letters on the side. On the end numbers 53629 has got the prefix 's' so it looks like British Railways changed it just after nationalisation. Another version for Hornby to produce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Last night I attached my two Southern cattle wagons to George's train hauled by a Drummond 700 at the Wimborne Railway Society meeting yesterday evening. I have lost my two Southern pill box brake vans. I will probably find them after I have bought a replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted December 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2016 My view, historical notes and images of the cattle truck can be read on my blog here https://grahammuz.com/2016/12/02/sr-diagram-1529-and-1530-cattle-trucks-arrive-from-Hornby-as-part-of-their-2016-range/ 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris45lsw Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 My view and images of the cattle truck can be read on my blog here https://grahammuz.com/2016/12/02/sr-diagram-1529-and-1530-cattle-trucks-arrive-from-Hornby-as-part-of-their-2016-range/ Cattle_1.jpg The curb rail of the SR liveried Bulleid truck sems to be BR bauxite while that on the BR liveried Maunsell one appears to be in SR brown! Chris Knowles-Thomas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) The curb rail of the SR liveried Bulleid truck sems to be BR bauxite while that on the BR liveried Maunsell one appears to be in SR brown! Chris Knowles-Thomas On the BR version in the photo, the curb rail is in shadow but, oddly, it is darker than that on the SR wagon; I don't think either is as dark as the SR body colour though. The curb rail is represented on the models by the edge of the floor casting. I have SR and BR vans and the casting on both has a rather glossy finish so needs repainting anyway. This is easier with the wagon dismantled - see my Post #190 for how to do so. John Edited December 2, 2016 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted December 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2016 On the BR version in the photo, the curb rail is in shadow but, oddly, it is darker than that on the SR wagon; I don't think either is as dark as the SR body colour though. The curb rail is represented on the models by the edge of the floor casting. I have SR and BR vans and the casting on both has a rather glossy finish so needs repainting anyway. This is easier with the wagon dismantled - see my Post #190 for how to do so. John Indeed the use of the light brown colour floor, or perhaps they are trying represent varnished wood on the SR livery version? is a little odd, but I can confirm that the BR version is not darker it's a trick of the light see below. I too will be touching these up on the SR version, but the BR version will be repainted to back date to SR anyway. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 The BR version seems to have the wheelbase printed as wb 10 instead of wb 10'6", are they all like this or is it a problem with this individual model Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Ok, the SR is foreign to me, but IA at Waterloo have both in stock. To me, the bodies look the same - or is it just me? Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted December 2, 2016 Author Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) Ok, the SR is foreign to me, but IA at Waterloo have both in stock. To me, the bodies look the same - or is it just me? Stewart Completely different builds stewart. The sides are pretty much the same as each other bar a few differences, but their ends are what seperate them. The BR versions are SR Maunsell 1529 which have planked ends and the SR liveried models are SR/BR Bulleid 1530 which were built with plywood ends. Edited December 2, 2016 by Garethp8873 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted December 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2016 Stewart Although at first glance the side might look the same the Bulleid version has non planked plywood ends, totally different brake gear, wheels and aluminium roofs the full detail differences are explained on my blog post here https://grahammuz.com/2016/12/02/sr-diagram-1529-and-1530-cattle-trucks-arrive-from-Hornby-as-part-of-their-2016-range/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted December 2, 2016 Author Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) I too will be touching these up on the SR version, but the BR version will be repainted to back date to SR anyway. I look forward to seeing the results Edited December 2, 2016 by Garethp8873 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 My bank account is greatful the Maunsell ones haven't been released in SR livery (yet.) I can wait They do look great though! On a side note, how realistic is the old Hornby SR cattle wagon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted December 2, 2016 Author Share Posted December 2, 2016 My bank account is greatful the Maunsell ones haven't been released in SR livery (yet.) I can wait They do look great though! On a side note, how realistic is the old Hornby SR cattle wagon? According to the Hornby Guide website, it first appeared in 1958...!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) Blimey, I just wondered if it was a generic fictional design, or if it was supposed to represent a specific diagram. Edit: just realised looking at that site it was the SR sheep wagon I was on about Edited December 2, 2016 by GreenGiraffe22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) Blimey, I just wondered if it was a generic fictional design, or if it was supposed to represent a specific diagram. Edit: just realised looking at that site it was the SR sheep wagon I was on about The old Tri-ang cattle wagon was based on an LMS design but stretched to fit their existing chassis. Decades later Mainline, then Bachmann made it underlength to fit their existing chassis. Any bets on somebody doing it right one day? John Edited December 2, 2016 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted December 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2016 I repainted my Tri-ang cattle wagons SR brown. You could repaint yours after dismantling it. To gain confidence you could try repainting some old Tri-ang wagons first which you can buy for about £3 each and get some transfers. Thanks for the advice, I'm really not confident at painting... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted December 2, 2016 Author Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) The old Tri-ang cattle wagon was based on an LMS design but stretched to fit their existing chassis. Decades later Mainline, then Bachmann made it underlength to fit their existing chassis. Any bets on somebody doing it right one day? John Hopefully if an LMS version is looked at, personally I hope that they look at the D1840 or D1944 builds instead. I highly doubt Bachmann will ever get rid of their 'attempt' of the LMS Cattle wagon... Edited December 2, 2016 by Garethp8873 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor7598 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Hopefully if an LMS version is looked at, personally I hope that they look at the D1840 or D1944 builds instead. I highly doubt Bachmann will ever get rid of their 'attempt' of the LMS Cattle wagon... It was not Bachmann's attempt, but a model inherited from Mainline many years ago. Now that Bachmann have the excellent GW/ BR standard model in their range, perhaps it is now time for that one to go in the bin. Although I still have one to give a cattle train a little more variety. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 3, 2016 It was not Bachmann's attempt, but a model inherited from Mainline many years ago. Bachmann might not be to blame for making it but they are to blame for still making it. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 3, 2016 Do Bachmann see it as a cash-cow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 Do Bachmann see it as a cash-cow? After seeing this forthcoming release from Bachmann's Thomas the Tank HO range, nothing surprises me these days... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 4, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 4, 2016 It takes a Kadee no.18 that's a good match with my Bachmann vans. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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