RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 13, 2017 Can anyone confirm exactly what R6827 & R6827A are going to be? Some adverts seem to be suggesting D1529, Hornby claim D1530! Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 Can anyone confirm exactly what R6827 & R6827A are going to be? Some adverts seem to be suggesting D1529, Hornby claim D1530! Keith The diagram is D1529 for the upcoming SR liveried models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted December 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2017 Photos here: https://railsofsheffield.com/news/articles/2718-new-Hornby-arrivals D1529 in SR livery D1530 in BR livery The opposite of what we got last time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
217 RIVER FLESK Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 So by the fact that the running number of the BR liveried 'Bulleid' cattle wagons start with a 'B', does it means that they were built after '48? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTrucks Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 So by the fact that the running number of the BR liveried 'Bulleid' cattle wagons start with a 'B', does it means that they were built after '48? The Hornby Bulleid cattle wagons in BR bauxite represent one of 150 Diagram 1530 vehicles ordered on 1 August 1947 under order No.A(Ashford)3446. They were allocated SR numbers (52001-150) but, as they were delivered between October and December 1949, they were outshopped with the BR numbers B891250-399. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 Currently got two SR Maunsell examples on their way to me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted December 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2017 The Hornby Bulleid cattle wagons in BR bauxite represent one of 150 Diagram 1530 vehicles ordered on 1 August 1947 under order No.A(Ashford)3446. They were allocated SR numbers (52001-150) but, as they were delivered between October and December 1949, they were outshopped with the BR numbers B891250-399. BR allocated them Diagram 1/351. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 Latest arrivals... 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pteremy Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 R6826A is numbered 'B891214' which appears to belong in a batch of ex LMS diag cattle wagons built around the same time. Presumably this is a mistake - or is there any reason to think (or photographic evidence) that either the written record of original numbering was wrong, or that there was some subsequent renumbering? (A trivial thing in the grand scheme of things of course.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted January 2, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2018 R6826A is numbered 'B891214' which appears to belong in a batch of ex LMS diag cattle wagons built around the same time. Presumably this is a mistake - or is there any reason to think (or photographic evidence) that either the written record of original numbering was wrong, or that there was some subsequent renumbering? (A trivial thing in the grand scheme of things of course.) A mistake, I'd guess - the number block for 1/351 (SR type) was in the middle of the 1/350 (LMS type) group. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTrucks Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 R6826A is numbered 'B891214' which appears to belong in a batch of ex LMS diag cattle wagons built around the same time. Presumably this is a mistake - or is there any reason to think (or photographic evidence) that either the written record of original numbering was wrong, or that there was some subsequent renumbering? (A trivial thing in the grand scheme of things of course.) Photos of B891313 in service and B891364, after conversion to a tunnel inspection wagon appear in British Railway Wagons Vol. 5 (Cheona 1997). Both are ex-SR designs. Where did you find your info? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted January 2, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2018 Photos of B891313 in service and B891364, after conversion to a tunnel inspection wagon appear in British Railway Wagons Vol. 5 (Cheona 1997). Both are ex-SR designs. Where did you find your info? Same place as I did, probably - Rowland's BR wagon 'bible'. BR Diagram 1/351 (SR type) were numbered B891250 - B891399 which, as you point out, includes the two examples that you have found photos for - but NOT B891214 ,which is the number that Hornby have used. As I have previously posted, "... the number block for 1/351 (SR type) was in the middle of the 1/350 (LMS type) group". Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Found someone selling them with free postage on ebay so treated myself to one of the SR Maunsell ones, I'll buy the other in due course, I've accepted the rising costs of model railways and frequently defended Hornby, however even I find £20 for a relatively small wagon to be a little... Uncomfortable. Reviews at least seem to suggest they're worth the price tag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTrucks Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 R6826A is numbered 'B891214' which appears to belong in a batch of ex LMS diag cattle wagons built around the same time. Presumably this is a mistake - or is there any reason to think (or photographic evidence) that either the written record of original numbering was wrong, or that there was some subsequent renumbering? (A trivial thing in the grand scheme of things of course.) Apologies - I misread your post. When I first looked at the Hornby cattle wagons I believed they were numbered (unusually) consecutively, i.e. 891313 and 891314; hence the tone of my reply. This is regrettably a Hornby error. I am glad the one I opted to buy was B891313! Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pteremy Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I am happy to have bought both - but wanted to check before I renumber (or try to forget the inaccuracy). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I am happy to have bought both - but wanted to check before I renumber (or try to forget the inaccuracy). I'd guess someone misread B891274 ........ should be easy enough to change - but then the cattle can't read anyway - so what's it matter ? What DOES matter - now that a significant proportion of the livery variants have been issued - is to give Hornby another SUBTLE REMINDER that the Maunsell meat van had the same chassis as his cattle wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 Just purchased a cheap going SR Cattle wagon on ebay... now it's going to used in a wagon project along with a Chivers SR Meat Van kit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Just purchased a cheap going SR Cattle wagon on ebay... now it's going to used in a wagon project along with a Chivers SR Meat Van kit Maybe this'll prompt Hornby into remembering that the meat van uses the same chassis as the Maunsell cattle wagon !!?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Hornby SR Cattle Wagon Chassis has now been merged with the SR Meat Van body 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 The SR Meat Van has been completed. Before primer has been applied and after it has for you all. Really pleased with how this has turned out and I have to give a massive thanks to my friend for taking this on for me 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenL Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) The Hornby SR-liveried Bulleid cattle vans are marked with the small 'N's denoting that they were not common user (NCU) - I'd be interested to know how the SR managed to classify them as NCU when, as I understand it, cattle wagons were pooled by time of the introduction of this type in 1947. Was there some kind of exception for 'new build' vehicles? It would be good to know if I can run my two Bulleid SR cattle vans in my GWR Cornish broccoli specials, or if they will have to remain only on workings to and from SR locations... Edited February 5, 2019 by BenL 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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