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How about “Bond Street” with a second sign under it, saying “Sponsored by Selfridges”... it’s done other places already.

Sutton station is sponsored by “Sub Sea Seven”, who ever they are.

 

If it is Subsea 7 then they're one of the top tier offshore contracting companies, around 10000 staff and a large fleet of very impressive (and very expensive) vessels.

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So the last few posts demonstrates sponsoring a station does work.

 

I’d no idea who they were, just saw the sign when I’ve passed through, now i’m educated and there’s posts talking about it.

 

Imagine if every station was adopted/sponsored, even little used stations like Reddish South could be adopted by the local bus company, or Denton by a chip shop, even if the money goes to weeding the platform once a year, but the bigger stations won’t have a problem, maybe get B&Q to sponsor Carlisle and give it a makeover like that TV advert ;)

 

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What the hell does that ship do! it looks like a child has rammed all their favourite toys together - there is a helipad half on top of the bridge and half supported by some scaffolding, a massive crane with a body that looks like a power station cooling tower and something resembling a sort if 'how strong are you' fairground contraption stuck on a platform with some form of giant chute in it.

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It's a heavy lift crane and pipe lay vessel. The bit between the big crane at the back and the superstructure at the front is an offshore unit being carried out to its location. The crane is a 5000t one. The bit sticking out of the back is part of the pipe lay system. The ship is DP 3, designed for ultra deep water and harsh environments. I wouldn't like to have to pay for it, she was delivered in 2012 and was just short of half a billion dollars.

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She was mothballed in cold stack for a while as a result of the offshore oil slump. An expensive ship to lay up with nothing to do. These ships are deployed globally, the owners try and manage regional campaigns to minimise trans-oceanic movements but if you did want her on station for a few days on the other side of the world and were willing to pay the cost then a deal can be done. No one market is big enough to sustain a ship like that and only a handful of companies in the world have the expertise and project capability to use them.

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what on earth is that for?

 

From the post immediately before the one you quoted:

 

It's a heavy lift crane and pipe lay vessel. The bit between the big crane at the back and the superstructure at the front is an offshore unit being carried out to its location. The crane is a 5000t one. The bit sticking out of the back is part of the pipe lay system. The ship is DP 3, designed for ultra deep water and harsh environments. I wouldn't like to have to pay for it, she was delivered in 2012 and was just short of half a billion dollars.

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Here is a detailed and comprehensive update on progress (Crossrail).......

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Seems to be a text book case of how to effectively plan and project manage a major, large scale, engineering project.

 

The contrast with another nearby major, large scale, engineering project couldn't be more stark.

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Seems to be a text book case of how to effectively plan and project manage a major, large scale, engineering project.

 

The contrast with another nearby major, large scale, engineering project couldn't be more stark.

 

Seems to be a text book case of how to effectively plan and project manage a major, large scale, engineering project, whilst having the luxury of not having to keep an existing train service running on a daily basis.

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Here is a detailed and comprehensive update on progress (Crossrail).......

 

Dated today, 30th January 2018.

 

 

http://content.tfl.gov.uk/board-20180130-item10-elizabeth-line.pdf

 

 

 

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Interesting that is shows 2 trains per hour to Reading - we live in hope that there won't be any more and that we will actually get the promised journey time improvements from GWR for various out suburban stations. (Interestingly the recently introduced GWR suburban timetable with Class 387 trains is giving us off peak journey times to London which are slower than the 1963 timetable although they are faster than the 1929 timetable!)

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Disappointingly, it also confirms what I had suspected for a while, namely that with TfL now routing 6 tph to Heathrow, West Drayton loses the two trains an hour that would have terminated there, putting us back to the existing 4tph service instead of 6. Given that the Heathrow Connect service is currently only 2tph, and Heathrow Express 4tph, it rather suggests that the main axis of the western end of Crossrail has become Heathrow to the City. It also raises the question as to whether the Express service is simply being subsumed into Crossrail, or is the Heathrow branch capable of supporting 10tph?

 

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Which is the bigger traffic centre, West Drayton or Heathrow Airport ? Hmmmm.....

It might be an interesting question, as West Drayton gets a lot of traffic (and local parking problems) simply by being the boundary station for Zone 6 and TfL's cheaper fares. General observation is that in the moring peak, up trains leave West Drayton full and standing, whlst i nthe evening peak, down trains that are full and standing on departure from Ealing Broadway lose a very large part of their passengers at Hayes and, more so, West Drayton.

One unknown, at to us outside TfL, is the extent to which bus passengers from the Southall/Hayes area might transfer onto the Heathrow Connect service once their Travelcards and Oyster Cards are valid between there and Heathrow.

 

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Interesting that is shows 2 trains per hour to Reading - we live in hope that there won't be any more.....

 

I believe that is the off-peak service Mike.

2 tph off-peak

4 tph peak

 

 

Disappointingly, it also confirms what I had suspected for a while, namely that with TfL now routing 6 tph to Heathrow, West Drayton loses the two trains an hour that would have terminated there, putting us back to the existing 4tph service instead of 6.....

 

Again, I believe that's the off-peak service.

 

 

...Given that the Heathrow Connect service is currently only 2tph, and Heathrow Express 4tph, it rather suggests that the main axis of the western end of Crossrail has become Heathrow to the City. It also raises the question as to whether the Express service is simply being subsumed into Crossrail, or is the Heathrow branch capable of supporting 10tph?

HEX is to remain as a separate, independent service, until their agreement to operate on the main line expires in 2023.

 

Originally Crossrail were to operate 4 tph to Heathrow T4.

Some time ago now, TfL agreed with HAL to increase Crossrail services to/from Heathrow to.....

 

4 tph to T4 plus...

2 tph to T5

= a total of 6 tph.

 

That is in addition to the existing HEX 4 tph to T5.

 

From December 2019, there will be...

10 tph to/from Heathrow.

Consisting of...

6 tph to T5 (4 Hex and 2 Crossrail)

4 tph to T4 (all Crossrail)

 

 

 

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It might be an interesting question, as West Drayton gets a lot of traffic (and local parking problems) simply by being the boundary station for Zone 6 and TfL's cheaper fares. General observation is that in the moring peak, up trains leave West Drayton full and standing, whlst i nthe evening peak, down trains that are full and standing on departure from Ealing Broadway lose a very large part of their passengers at Hayes and, more so, West Drayton.....

 

Jim; how long are those trains currently serving West Drayton during the peaks?

The Crossrail trains will be 9 coaches long and they say there will be 6 tph during the peaks.

 

As for full and standing, on a negative note, the new trains will be mainly standing and standing.

 

 

....One unknown, at to us outside TfL, is the extent to which bus passengers from the Southall/Hayes area might transfer onto the Heathrow Connect service once their Travelcards and Oyster Cards are valid between there and Heathrow.

Being rather pedantic (sorry!) Heathrow Connect disappears in just over 3 months time to become TfL rail.

Later to become the Elizebeth Line.

There will be a lot more trains and significantly more passenger capacity between Southall, Hayes and Heathrow when the full service commences.

 

 

 

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