big T Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) This is my third foray into layout building in the last two years. Having been down the scrapyard route with 'Pensbridge' and a diesel depot with 'Shelfordby', I thought long and hard for an idea for the layout's existence. I've seen container depots, Cement depots, yards etc done before and couldn't make up my mind. Having sold Shelfordby, I desperately needed a new project. I picked up two superb scratchbuilt plastic buildings off one of the buying and selling groups from Facebook and had an epiphany! A Wagon Repair Depot! One of the buildings would be ideal, and was a single road corrugated shed, of approximately two loco lengths long. All I needed were baseboards and I’d be in business. After a conversation with a friend,it turned out that he had four 4' x 2' bespoke boards with integral legs for reluctant sale. Armed with a handful of cash, a swift visit to Coventry was made and boards were loaded into the car, transported home and swiftly set up in the garage. So the idea of a Wagon Repair Depot was born, with sidings, run around facility and a two road station added to boot. This will provide me with a reason to run a lot of my loco’s, stock, and wagons, shuffle class 08’s around, and potentially offer single or two person operation. I would use three of the boards as scenic sections, with the final 4 x 2 board used as a fiddle yard. Operation will be kept as simple as possible, with DCC control. Points will be manually controlled, with the option for motorising at a later stage. I would like to have yard and station lighting and working signals, but I think these will be something to think about in the not too distant future. Track will be trusty Peco code 100, laid directly on the softwood top of the baseboards. A mix of wooden and concrete sleepers would be used. The layout will be of the stay at home variety; however will be suitable for taking to shows should invitations come my way! I have decided upon the early 1990’s to mid 2000’s as a time period which gives good flexibility as regards what to run, and will range from BR blue, Sectorisation, through to EWS days. The location is entirely fictional and would be located somewhere between the West Midlands and the North. It was evident that the previous owner had made a start with track laying and ballasting, and had installed a two road dead end island style platform. I ummed and arred as to whether to keep the track as it was, because the look of it was just right and the track configuration was good and offered plenty of scope for movements. However on closer inspection below the wiring was a bit urgent to say the least, and it was clear that it had to go. In the end to reduce complications with wiring opted to remove the existing track and wiring and start again with a clean sheet, mirroring parts of the old track formation. So, track removal started in earnest with the hardest (and dirtiest) part being the wetting and removal of ballast and sanding back to obtain a good surface to accept new permanent way. The following photos show the layout in its early days, with the original trackwork still in situ, then the slow progress whilst removing track and ballast. Cheers Trev Edited January 4, 2017 by big T 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 7, 2016 Author Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) Having stripped the boards back to bare wood, track laying starts and I don't really have a fixed track plan. I am setting out turnouts and track as I go along. After each part of the track is test fitted I tend to do a cheeky photo set up for effect! Cheers! Trev Edited June 7, 2016 by big T 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 Hello again! A few more pictures showing recent progress. This is the actual Wagon repair Depot Building that the layout is based around. Its not fixed into position permanently as it still needs painting and weathering and internal lighting adding. The eventual plan is to add corrugated clear plastic to the roof to simulate UPVC rooflights. these will be weathered with a slightly orangey hue to represent ageing. This is the view from the fiddle yard end looking towards the station. the up and down roads to and from the station are to the left with the yard roads and shunt neck on the right. all three tracks at the bottom will lead to the fiddle yard, enabling two person operation. I have been adding the droppers as I progress. i remove a sleeper, and solder the dropper wires in a 90 degree bend to the underside of the rail, then feed these through a drilled hole to below the baseboard ready for linking to the bus wire. This photo shows the progress made at the station end of the layout by the actual WRD. the coaches are for testing the running and smooth transition across turnouts. I've also used them for gauging to set the distance for the trackwork running alongside the WRD. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCML100 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Coming along nicely, i will be following with interest 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Good morning. A couple of photos to show progress around the "Bottom" (station) end of the layout, in particular trackwork into the WRD building. It is my intention to make a hardstanding around the building out of plasticard and to have the area very overgrown with weeds and to have lots of clutter. I am looking forward to adding yard and building lighting and I think Im goingto go down the express Models route as I have used their items before and was impressed. Saltley's pet 08905 poking out of the WRD shuffling BDA's around.... One of my fleet of PCA's - Ive modified these by removing the tension locks, adding instanters, brake discs and air pipes. A quick dirty and a few streaks added too. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 I think your wagon repair building is a bit too narrow. Think of the wagon spares, tools and working area required to work on wagons. I take it that your passenger services will be run by multiple units or push / pull trains given that there is no run round facility for them? Gordon A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCML100 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Your weathering seems to be very good! Loving the pca amd the res 47, both looking very realistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 I think your wagon repair building is a bit too narrow. Think of the wagon spares, tools and working area required to work on wagons. I take it that your passenger services will be run by multiple units or push / pull trains given that there is no run round facility for them? Gordon A Hi Gordon thanks for your response. Yes i agree that the building is slightly too narrow, and could probably benefit from being say twice as wide to accommodate the repair activities. In reality, it actually fits in quite well with my chosen trackplan at that point, and the suits the limited width I have there. Plus, it cost me next to nothing and was a complete steal. I wanted to get a road behind the WRD so that I could have stock/loco's running behind buildings to give a feeling of dimension. I will be running a mixture of stuff really, from 153's, 156's, etc up to 4 coach trains (Reggie rail Mk1's/2's and GWR BFO's), together with RES trains probably consisting a PCV, a GUV and a pair of Super BG's. One platform road does have a run around facility, a loco release is provided by means of a loop. the other platform hasn't and will be operated in a similar way that the north bay platforms at Crewe were with the Reggie Rail services. - The train engine would come in, draw to a stand in the bay. a second loco would come on the back, and hook up. The train loco would be lopped off, and the tail lamp would swap ends. The new train engine would perform a brake test, get the RA and away, leaving the original train engine to toddle back to the DMD or wherever. I'm toying with the idea of extending the layout further beyond the platforms, so I may put another loop in then. cheers Trev Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Your weathering seems to be very good! Loving the pca amd the res 47, both looking very realistic Thanks very much, its something I've been doing for a few years now, but have still got a long way to go! Unfortunately the pictures are off my phone, in a dimly lit garage and there is no backscene, which don't make for brilliant effects! Cheers Trev 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 This weekend, i think I am going to start my favourite part of the build - the wiring. actually i am being sarcastic and don't really like doing it! All of the droppers are in, and now I have finished with the PCB sleepers and the soldering, I can now think about flipping the boards over and getting the bus wire in. A few more photos of recent developments: this is the bottom end of the layout and you can just about make out the run a round loop adjacent to the platform (with the HAA on it) A handful of the joints between boards with PCB copperclad sleepers. (I still have to cut the copperclad to prevent shorts) I think there around 20 sets of joints that I have done. I am sure they will look more photogenic once painted and ballasted. Track detail at the bottom end of the layout where the hardstanding area will go. (I am thinking road access for plant/ materials deliveries etc) Finally a class 40 at the top end of the shunt neck 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) Ive spent some time having a tidy up today in readiness for partial dismantling the layout for wiring. A couple of quick views towards the station end showing the run around loop and the general layout. Need to start thinking about the backscene, ballasting, signals, concrete troughs, foliage, hardstandings, vehicles, fencing, lighting, platform surfaces, buffer stops, static grass, yada yada yada!!!! Edited June 12, 2016 by big T 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielson's shay no 3 Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 It's looking great Trev you got some real good ideas for the layout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 It's looking great Trev you got some real good ideas for the layout Cheers Dan I'm enjoying the build, taking my time TBH. Ive still got a looong way to go, and I'm thinking lighting now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) Has anyone got any suggestions of how I can replicate the platform surface please? Im thinking a finish similar to that found at Water Orton - edging stones with a tarmac infill. Im thinking of scrapping the Plasticard and using a single piece of hardboard with a high grit wet and dry? Edited June 15, 2016 by big T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ELTEL Posted June 15, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2016 Greenscene have a range of texture products one being Dark Tarmac which is ideal for platforms surfaces. You could of course lighten areas to produce patches where repairs have been made. Hope it helps Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) Greenscene have a range of texture products one being Dark Tarmac which is ideal for platforms surfaces. You could of course lighten areas to produce patches where repairs have been made. Hope it helps Terry Thanks Terry I will look them up. Cheers Trev Hi Terry Ive just had a look, and that does look like the type of finish I am after. Thank you Edited June 15, 2016 by big T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ELTEL Posted June 15, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2016 I've just done a platform with the Green Scene product so I will send you a photograph. Terry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 I've just done a platform with the Green Scene product so I will send you a photograph. Terry Thank you Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Like it mate, Seems to be similar period to my plank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 Like it mate, Seems to be similar period to my plank Cheers Rob! Have you got a link to your layout please? I'll take a gander 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparxD428 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Hi Trev, Smashing layout. Looking really good. Love that 40 as well. Cheers, Stu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) Hi Trev, Smashing layout. Looking really good. Love that 40 as well. Cheers, Stu. Hi Stu cheers for looking! Thanks for your kind comments. Its coming along fairly slowly mainly due to me doing only an hour or so after work when Ive got the energy! Trev Edited June 15, 2016 by big T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold CovDriver Posted June 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2016 It's looking good Trev will you be out on the exhibition circuit with this one ? Cheers Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) After fighting my way down the M6 through the weather today I managed to get an hour or so on the layout. As Ive mentioned before, I'm planning on starting the bus wiring over the weekend. As I work for an M & E contractor, I was given some multi-strand 2 core brown and blue cable which I'm thinking of using for the bus. Are there any hard and fast rules as regards types and diameter of cabling you can use? I am sure that as its designed for 230v, it should be fine with 16v? Anyhoo, as I was bored I set up a few trains and locos for photos. 37114 on my Reggie Rail coaches with 37698.......... A few shots of 37114 And a couple with a 56 on Seacows.. Edited June 15, 2016 by big T 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamperman36 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 nice looking layout , reminds me of Tees yard WRD.Try looking it up on Google images for some ideas for detail around the depot . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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