SRman Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) The 8 VAB did run with TC units - just what extra arrangements it had I don't know, but it could, and did, run with a TC attached. The buffet car was a locomotive hauled one adapted with through cabling for the EMU controls, so it is quite possible other extra supplies were also arranged for the unit as a whole.http://www.semgonline.com/proto/8vab.htmlEdit: Further information on this at - apparently a class 33 was added to the formation to provide the ETH requirements when working the 8 VAB with a TC.1q (sorry - this was typed by a kitten seeking attention!) Edited July 30, 2017 by SRman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted July 30, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 30, 2017 Having bought a complete unpainted 4TC set off Chris at the Taunton meeting back in April I am seriously thinking of trying to paint it to match the LT version that is at present being used on the Swanage-Wareham shuttles. It will be interesting to see if Kernow/Bachmann come to an arrangement with the LT Museum to do a professional job of the livery at some future date. http://www.carlswatson.com/Trains/Galleries%202017/Galleries%20201706/20170630ArlingtonEastleighWorks/class4914tc762977116370823and76324eastleighworks30thjune2017.html It would make an interesting conversion, and certainly more attractive than the false teak livery it had before entering Eastleigh Works. all the best Godfrey Wow that looks amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted July 30, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 30, 2017 Just to back up Jeff's comment above I will confirm firstly that the 8 Vab unit was formed for the purpose of and was intended to run with a 4TC unit and secondly that on one of the occasions I saw it there was most definitely a 4TC attached at the rear what ever jiggery pokery or shennanigans might have been required to achieve that. The only other time I saw it the formation was even less standard being just the 5-car portion of 8001 running with a 3TC and a Vep. Blue 4TC model paid for. Wondering if I have space to also accommodate a b/g one. It's that or a Bep but not both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted August 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2017 In their newsletter today, we are informed that 32-640Z has left China, and is due shortly. I'm looking forward to receiving mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted August 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2017 I folded, I now have two on order. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted August 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 5, 2017 Facebook pages shows a 4tc test video with a sound enabled NSE liveried 47701, a GW150 liveried 47 is sitting on the other track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted August 5, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 5, 2017 I think I've just found the excuse I need to buy one. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted August 5, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 5, 2017 I think I've just found the excuse I need to buy one. No excuse is needed. You just need to buy one. At least one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hawkins Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Having been very fortunate to purchase the Research Department 4 TC recently at the New Milton show I'm waiting with fingers crossed that SLW release class 24 97201 ' Experimental ' later in the year, it is leading in the voting to date and I'm very hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I'm interested in seeing how popular the model turns out to be. I have an NSE one on order. If I were to get a 2nd one it would be the blue/grey one with NSE flashes. I can see the research one being the least popular version (due to its limited use) and perhaps the 'modern' blue version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted August 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 6, 2017 I'm interested in seeing how popular the model turns out to be. I have an NSE one on order. If I were to get a 2nd one it would be the blue/grey one with NSE flashes. If the model turns out to be very popular, what are the chances of a 4REP to accompany it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted August 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 6, 2017 I'm interested in seeing how popular the model turns out to be. I have an NSE one on order. If I were to get a 2nd one it would be the blue/grey one with NSE flashes. I can see the research one being the least popular version (due to its limited use) and perhaps the 'modern' blue version. It might be the least use, but it's probably the widest travelled, and easily most noticeable, so it could "wander into" a wide variety of off piste layout locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestburyJack Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I can see the research one being the least popular version (due to its limited use) and perhaps the 'modern' blue version. Apologies if I've missed it, but when was the RTC one converted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Not sure when,but my recollection of it was coupled up to 83301 and 73205 as the test bed to high speed running on third rail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted August 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 6, 2017 Apologies if I've missed it, but when was the RTC one converted? 1994. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium amwells Posted August 7, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2017 1994. Roy Think Wikipedia is wrong here... the eurostars were here by then. This page suggests 1989/90 to 1994 which sounds more like I recall: http://kentrail.org.uk/international_services_test_train.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted August 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2017 I suspect by 1994 the RTC was on the skids due to imminent privatisation. Indeed, I think Dr George Buckley, brought in to head up Central Services - aka Rag, Tag and Bobtail, due to including just about everything in BR that wasn't TOC, or BRIS, or going to Railtrack - had already tired of the shape that privatisation was now taking and left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted August 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2017 Think Wikipedia is wrong here... the eurostars were here by then. This page suggests 1989/90 to 1994 which sounds more like I recall: http://kentrail.org.uk/international_services_test_train.htm You are quite right, although Wikipedia wasn't where I got the date from. I must have been really tired to not spot the error as I travelled on Eurostar for work pretty much as soon as the service started. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 The September Hornby Magazine has a review of the Kernow 4TC on pages 60 - 63 followed by an article about the prototype in 'Reality Control'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Geep7 Posted August 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2017 Seeing it in the HM has finally convinced SWMBO to let me pre-order a Blue / Grey one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted August 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 15, 2017 Did 47/7s work with 4TCs ? I haven't seen 47701 in revised NSE done before since the days of Lima, is this a new ltd edition ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted August 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 15, 2017 Did 47/7s work with 4TCs ? Anything can haul a 4TC as though it were a semi-permanent rake of four coaches. Might need some extension air pipes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Did 47/7s work with 4TCs ? I haven't seen 47701 in revised NSE done before since the days of Lima, is this a new ltd edition ? Turbots, seacows in new liveries and Barbels there too. Not sure if these are already released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Did 47/7s work with 4TCs ? Completely different and incompatible MU system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted August 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 16, 2017 Completely different and incompatible MU system. They can't 'push' But... https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=47+hauling+4tc&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari#imgrc=E5nD4go8x9AclM: Griff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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