RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted August 11, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2016 Always inspirational seeing the things that crop up on this, Shenston Road, and other similar threads - keep up the good work guys Also very noticeable as to what features some of you notice, and what others don't always see...... beauty (or nostalgia) is in the eyes of the beholder, and the missing middle wickets should maybe take priority depending on your viewpoint. Just an observation from this old geezer. Still waiting to see some Deltics on this thread Thanks Wibble Glad you enjoy our efforts - but Shenston Rd knocks ours in to a cocked hat for sure... Deltics? Ballymoss in 1978 was the first one I am aware of and that had a very funny number by that time But of course D5901 is a different matter entirely and gets far too much exposure ....its that lovely deltic moan.... Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 11, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 11, 2016 Thanks Clive Don't suppose you are up this way this weekend? Mr Dell visiting Satirday... Phil Hi Phil Sorry mate, Mrs M has designs on me this weekend................well she has some designs of what DIY she would like me to do/start/finish/not run away from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted August 11, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) Hee hee well with all those baseboards you should be good at it by now! We'll have to drink all the cider and eat the hot dogs, pork scratchings and millionaires shortbread for you Phil Edited August 11, 2016 by Phil Bullock 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted August 11, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2016 Dear Mr Bullock I like the fact you have modelled D4 with its additional bits on. Never seen anyone else do it before. On my list of should I ever get the time (and will power) I would like to make D4 in green livery with the extra bits as you have done and the handrails on the nose sides and step in the grille. Just noticed steps on the bogie as well. Just looking at this again Who on earth thought that a 138 ton behemoth needed a brake tender? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted August 11, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2016 Hope you have a great weekend Phil and sorry I can't make it but as you know I've got the two girlies to look after. Have a beer or five for me!! Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted August 11, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2016 Cheers Paul We'll make you a video....before we drink the beer hee hee Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted August 12, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2016 Cheers Paul We'll make you a video....before we drink the beer hee hee Phil Thanks Phil I will drink a beer whilst watching it Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted August 12, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2016 Weather is set well and truly for for tomorrow We have arranged a steam run past .... 5043 runs Tyseley - Hereford, due Churchdown 11.19 And based on recent weekends some significant historical aircraft activity is also highly likely in the vicinity... Phil 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 12, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 12, 2016 Just looking at this again Who on earth thought that a 138 ton behemoth needed a brake tender? Phil Hi Phil Who ever thought with the additional stopping power it could take a heavier train. From 1964 Midland Lines Freight Trains Loads book. An example a class 7 train from Wellingborough to Brent, BR Type 4 can convey 72 Basic Wagon Units without brake tender, or 92 Basic Wagon Units with brake tender. Class 8 train between the same places would be 106 BWU without and 125 BWU with brake tender. A basic wagon unit is a 13 ton medfit with a light load. A fully loaded 16 ton mineral is 2 BWU. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted August 12, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2016 Cheers Clive That tells us that there were greater concerns about the ability to stop than to go! Did that follow the accident in which D5383 was written off I wonder? ..... ah no having checked that was 1965..... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Cheers Clive That tells us that there were greater concerns about the ability to stop than to go! Did that follow the accident in which D5383 was written off I wonder? ..... ah no having checked that was 1965..... Phil The stopping was always the problem with diesels; I spent my formative years, from 1955 to 1973, at the bottom end of the L&MMR line, and, from 1965 onwards, runaway 'Six-eighters' were relatively frequent occurrences. Part of the problem was that the NCB staff who marshalled the trains at Cynheidre would not form fitted heads- even if there were several fitted wagons together, the bags wouldn't be coupled. The train would thus descend the line back to Old Castle Junction very gingerly, everyone hoping that sufficient brakes were pinned down. When it came to main-line runs, the amount of brake-force would determine what speed the train could run at; in order to find day-time paths for mineral workings on the South Wales main line from the early 1970s, fitted heads of redundant vans (usually Banana vans, for some reason) would be attached for the trunk runs to Margam and STJ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 12, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) Now Brian has muddied the waters with fitted 'eads I might as well go on and mention class 7* trains. These were an LMR and ER thing to increase braking power and speed. The train needed some vacuum braked fitted wagons piped to the locomotive brake as to stop the train when required. Depending on the number of wagons making up the fitted head the maximum load was proportional to them. Here are some examples for a Peak class locomotive on a class 7* train from the same load book and the same route as above, 0 fitted wagons the number of Basic Wagon Units was 73, for 4 fitted wagons it was 89 BWU, 8 fitted wagons it was 105 BWU, 12 fitted it went up to 121 BWU and finally 16 vacuum braked wagons 135 BWU. To complicate things more a fitted vehicle was considered to be some thing like a Highfit or Vanfit with one vacuum cylinder, a loaded 16ton Minfit with two operative cylinders was counted as 2 fitted vehicles and a brake tender was equal to 4. An unloaded 16 ton Minfit was counted as only 1 vehicle as only one of the cylinders would be operative if empty. Unloaded Conflats and Lowfits were not permitted to be used as part of the fitted head. Edited August 12, 2016 by Clive Mortimore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted August 12, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2016 So...time to put the brakes on this thread derailment and get back to something more fitting.... Hee hee A little something for the weekend... https://youtu.be/ohou8Ol8aRc Up and running this evening Phil 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Nice one Phil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted August 12, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2016 Someone's nicked all your signals Phil... See you in the morning Andi 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2016 Tease! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted August 13, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2016 Ah yes... the local scrappies paid a flying visit, box temporarily closed... S&T dept will be busy this morning... See you later Andi Sorry Mike it had to be done...and we'll return to Class 44s and brake tenders for Clive later.... Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted August 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2016 Abbotswood gets brought into the Railfreight era Andi 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 13, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2016 Oi Bullock !!!!!!! Wot you doing letting HIM run trains on your railway :scratchhead: .............tell HIM to set his own one up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 13, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2016 Did it fit the fiddle yard cos it looked very very long? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium HillsideDepot Posted August 13, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) Oi Bullock !!!!!!! Wot you doing letting HIM run trains on your railway :scratchhead: .............tell HIM to set his own one up. He'll be stringing wires up next, and running trains with coat hangers on the roof! . . . . Although, watching the progress being made with the GWML "knitting", Abbotswood should be safe for many years yet... Edited August 13, 2016 by HillsideDepot 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted August 13, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2016 No cuddly toys were hurt in the making of this video... https://youtu.be/e4BbGAJ0I9g Phil 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted August 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2016 Did someone mention brake tenders? 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2016 Abbotswood gets brought into the Railfreight era https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akw6UFkLOSY Andi Where's your tarjeta amarillo Phil? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2016 No cuddly toys were hurt in the making of this video... https://youtu.be/e4BbGAJ0I9g Phil How peculiar - it kept going without anything falling off, definitely not one for a realism thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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