delticfan Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Anyone know what's happening with these? The Bachmann guys at York show said they would be out by Xmas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Not a chance, EPs still in development. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_R Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Anyone know what's happening with these? The Bachmann guys at York show said they would be out by Xmas. Christmas 2017? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted September 21, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2016 Announced 8 March 2013. I wonder how Bachmann will resolve the need for a tumblehome and ease of assembly? It's a difficult problem to crack, as we have seen from the Hornby mk2e and the earlier Gresley coaches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 This thread on here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/113613-Bachmann-farish-half-year-product-update/ doesn't list a scheduled date and they have stuff up till May 2017 in more advanced levels. I guess they won't be here before Christmas this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 My question was a bit tongue in cheek, I sort of knew the answer but what is annoying is that the sales chap was so sure it would be out by Christmas and was a bit taken a back by my scepticism. If they don't know I wish they would be honest and say so instead of just making things up to please people, if it's going to take four or five years at least come out and say so. It's not good business and just makes them look foolish. The models are excellent but come on manage expectations with a bit more care please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Are the moderators able to merge this with the existing Bachmann Mk2f thread - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/69220-Bachmann-announce-mk2fs/ So that everything is one place. Many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric709 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Anyone know what's happening with these? The Bachmann guys at York show said they would be out by Xmas. They didn't specify which Christmas though did they Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 Yep they defo said this Xmas, no doubts there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted September 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2016 The most I have seen is a 3D print of one end of a coach at a show earlier this year. I would hope to see painted samples at Warley. Would be pleastantly surprised if they were in the shops this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Personally I think we still have a fair amount of time to be able to save up for these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Mac Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 The most I have seen is a 3D print of one end of a coach at a show earlier this year. I would hope to see painted samples at Warley. Would be pleastantly surprised if they were in the shops this year. Well there in the tool room, and according to the Bachmann times, they are the only item currently being tooled up.... so perhaps they will progress to the artwork stage a lot quicker than we were expecting.... personally, I think Christmas is a stretch, but early next year looks promising.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Bachmann are in attendance at Folkestone this weekend. So a good chance to see if 'they are all singing from the same Hymn Sheet'................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Anyone know what the latest on the mk2s is, if they appear in the 2017 catalogue as photos of the real thing I'll cry! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I reckon that at the earliest they will take another year, very probably two years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Godfrey Glyn Posted December 31, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2016 Anyone know what the latest on the mk2s is, if they appear in the 2017 catalogue as photos of the real thing I'll cry! Free handkerchiefs will be provided with the 2017 Catalogue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just thought I would ask anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAndy Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Announced 8 March 2013. I wonder how Bachmann will resolve the need for a tumblehome and ease of assembly? It's a difficult problem to crack, as we have seen from the Hornby mk2e and the earlier Gresley coaches. They managed it Ok on the 2's and 2a's that they 've done, so there really shouldn't be an issue with the F's - so long as they use the same tried and trusted construction techniques. cheers Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted December 31, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2016 Free handkerchiefs will be provided with the 2017 Catalogue. That's for when they announce the prices Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 I must say the Hornby ones are looking more and more attractive, like you say how much will they cost £50? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I must say the Hornby ones are looking more and more attractive, like you say how much will they cost £50? I reckon so. Personally I'd rather spend £50-£60 on an accurate model (if one is available) compared to £25 on a model that needs serious work doing to it but that is my choice and I wouldn't expect others to feel the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted January 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2017 My sentiments exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Mac Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Pricewise I'm an optimist.... i'm hoping for a price of about £40 after the usual discounts for the standard coach and maybe £55 for the DBSO's....add a bit more for the DCC lighted versions.... also depends which year they decide to actually deliver them! Any more than this then I'll need to rethink/reduce my preorder! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAndy Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I reckon so. Personally I'd rather spend £50-£60 on an accurate model (if one is available) compared to £25 on a model that needs serious work doing to it but that is my choice and I wouldn't expect others to feel the same. I've said that quite a few times to be honest Graham. Life can really to be too short sometimes, so I would pay in the region of that amount for something that could be quickly re-numbered, weathered and on the layout. Problem is, as things stand, there's very few items of rolling stock that don't need quite a bit of fettling, in order to get them looking somewhere near right - it never ceases to amaze me, just how long it can take to work on just one coach. Far longer than stripping, detailing and weathering a Loco - add that up for even a relatively small 5 coach raft, and there's an awful lot of time goes into just one rake. cheers Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor7598 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 From the financial point of view I do wonder how well the forthcoming MK2 F coaches will pay back Bachmann's investment. Airfix produced some air cons way back when, these then went to Dapol, then Hornby. Lima I believe had some in their range. Hornby made the less than perfect MK2 E variant , which can be had for £15 to £20. This could all add up to a partially saturated market already, and any of the above mentioned can be picked up very cheaply at shows etc.and will serve the less discerning. I am sure the Bachmann MK2 F range will be fine, accurate models, but at today's prices. How many modellers will forsake their earlier air cons. for the new products. Particularly as the differences between MK 2 D, E &,F are pretty minimal in 4mm. The specialist variants like the DBSO etc, will hopefully do well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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