davidw Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) A quick photo of the FO, that I’ve just PMed Phil Bullock, as I said to him, no close coupling mechanism, feels a bit lightweight. I’m sure with a bit of attention they will scrub up (or down if weathering) well.5319C737-B34D-4D83-A197-20E217A01F02.jpeg Hornby mk1's are far lighter than the Bachmann mk1's. Not a problem - just a statement. Looking forward to 3 BSO''s and an FO in Maroon. Edited October 17, 2017 by davidw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) I wouldn't be so hung up by the lack of a buffet as certainly by the late 70s, most Mk1 rakes were used on non-buffet services (with Mk1 buffets ironically being utilised in Mk2 and Mk3 sets)I actually came to a conclusion and solved my own problem... I’ve bought another rake of Mk1’s in Maroon with lights as made by Hornby 2 years ago, £30 a piece. I’ll strip the lights and bogies from two of them and put one in the FO and one in the BSO.. makes me a rake with lights, £10 less than the new ones without lights and I only need to buy 2 new coaches. Blue/grey can wait another day, I found my Replica Railways FO’s the other day, and these really aren’t that bad, indeed their good. Edited October 17, 2017 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Oh Im interesting in the Commonwealth bogies if you want to sell them? I actually came to a conclusion and solved my own problem... I’ve bought another rake of Mk1’s in Maroon with lights as made by Hornby 2 years ago, £30 a piece. I’ll strip the lights and bogies from two of them and put one in the FO and one in the BSO.. makes me a rake with lights, £10 less than the new ones without lights and I only need to buy 2 new coaches. Blue/grey can wait another day, I found my Replica Railways FO’s the other day, and these really aren’t that bad, indeed their good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2017 Oh Im interesting in the Commonwealth bogies if you want to sell them? DId you know these are available? http://www.replicarailways.co.uk/spares-and-accessories/accessories Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Oh Im interesting in the Commonwealth bogies if you want to sell them? The maroon ones are BR1 bogies. (R4788/9) Edited October 17, 2017 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Yes. Sorry, thought you were putting lights in the B+G FO. The maroon ones are BR1 bogies. (R4788/9) Yes. Im after the new Hornby ones with NEM couplings. Thanks. DId you know these are available? http://www.replicarailways.co.uk/spares-and-accessories/accessories Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Yes. Sorry, thought you were putting lights in the B+G FO. No but Phils post helps me a lot, I just found a dozen Replica coaches (my intercity white roof FO set), and NSE stock etc from a recent house move.. but somewhere in the last 20 years the couplings were removed (hacked off), in a close coupling attempt had a fitting melted on ! so at £1.95 for a kit Replica bogie that’s just the solution I need to bring the set back up to scratch, you could have these old commonwealth bogies if you wish ? Edited October 17, 2017 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2017 No but Phils post helps me a lot, I just found a dozen Replica coaches (my intercity white roof FO set), and NSE stock etc from a recent house move.. but somewhere in the last 20 years the couplings were removed (hacked off), in a close coupling attempt had a fitting melted on ! so at £1.95 for a kit Replica bogie that’s just the solution I need to bring the set back up to scratch, you could have these old commonwealth bogies if you wish ? And if you want close coupling I have done both a Replica FO and RBR with Keen systems close couplers Needed a bit of tinkering but are fine now Spot the RBR in the middle of the Bachmanns at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2fd48McmZM - just need to weather chassis more in line with Bachmanns FO will be lurking somewhere in the videos too - has orange curtains. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 But every photo of the BSO still shows it has compartments!!!! https://beta.railsofsheffield.com/br-mk1-coach-brake-second-open-w9353-blue-grey-livery-2017-range--JJJA32301 Please ...not! Phil You would think the O in BSO would give them a clue wouldnt you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 You would think the O in BSO would give them a clue wouldnt you! Anyone actually have a new BSO ? the original CAD images showed a correct OPEN interior - so what have they fitted in the models ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Yes. And indeed the interior is OPEN. Anyone actually have a new BSO ? the original CAD images showed a correct OPEN interior - so what have they fitted in the models ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Yes. And indeed the interior is OPEN. Nice to know they are getting into the shops now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Anyone actually have a new BSO ? the original CAD images showed a correct OPEN interior - so what have they fitted in the models ? The BSO has not been released yet. Blue grey version is imminent. Edited October 19, 2017 by davidw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) The BSO has not been released yet. Blue rey version is imminent.Showing In stock at Hattons: https://www.hattons.co.uk/236431/Hornby_R4777_Mk1_BSO_brake_second_open_W9353_in_BR_blue_and_grey/StockDetail.aspx Edit: along with blue/grey FO. Edited October 19, 2017 by Signaller69 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Showing In stock at Hattons: https://www.hattons.co.uk/236431/Hornby_R4777_Mk1_BSO_brake_second_open_W9353_in_BR_blue_and_grey/StockDetail.aspx Edit: along with blue/grey FO. Oh thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Showing In stock at Hattons: https://www.hattons.co.uk/236431/Hornby_R4777_Mk1_BSO_brake_second_open_W9353_in_BR_blue_and_grey/StockDetail.aspx Edit: along with blue/grey FO. Both FO and BSO in stock at Rails - and cheaper also................. https://railsofsheffield.com/br-mk1-coach-brake-second-open-w9353-blue-grey-livery-JJJA32301 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted October 19, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 19, 2017 Kernow MRC has photos of the coach in stock which clearly show open interior http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/55528/R4777-Hornby-BR-Mk1-Brake-Second-Open-BSO%C2%A0Coach-number-W9353 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Here is a way to utilise two BSOs: 1964_1V86_Reddings-between-Cheltenham-Gloucester_3-69 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2017 Interesting! Was that running with anything like the booked stock Robert? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Kernow MRC has photos of the coach in stock which clearly show open interior http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/55528/R4777-Hornby-BR-Mk1-Brake-Second-Open-BSO%C2%A0Coach-number-W9353 Yes my BSO has arrived fitted with an open interior, overall it looks very good, one issue, 3 hole Disc wheels are fitted to it's MK1 bogies. I intend to swap them for a set of Com bogies from a TSO - but they have 3 Hole Disc wheels fitted also...........argh ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Yes my BSO has arrived fitted with an open interior, overall it looks very good, one issue, 3 hole Disc wheels are fitted to it's MK1 bogies. I intend to swap them for a set of Com bogies from a TSO - but they have 3 Hole Disc wheels fitted also...........argh ! 3 hole disc? What size are they? Would have expected Hornby to use their 14mm plain disc wheels on these as per the previous versions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 3 hole disc? What size are they? Would have expected Hornby to use their 14mm plain disc wheels on these as per the previous versions? Slight correction - they are actually 2 hole 14 mm disc ! right size, but as you commented why did they not use their 14 plain disc wheel sets ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Slight correction - they are actually 2 hole 14 mm disc ! right size, but as you commented why did they not use their 14 plain disc wheel sets ? Is it because BR coach wheels do have holes ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Is it because BR coach wheels do have holes ? These wheels should indeed have 2 holes, good attention to detail from Hornby then. Hadn't realised Hornby did them with the holes, hence the plain disc reference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Anyone compared with the Bachmann blue grey? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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