WILLIAM Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) The fixing of some of those nameplates is shocking. I'd have hoped Dapol would have learnt from the quality control issues experienced on the class 73. I've asked my retailer to check the nameplates on my pre-ordered model before they send it. If they are unable to supply a decent one I will cancel. Edited February 16, 2017 by WILLIAM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Rails Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 All six DCC ready versions are in stock now. I have just finished editing our video review of the new models. (As I said previously layout is coming soon so for now we just have it going up and down and also on a rolling road) Please let me know what you think and also how we could improve Many thanksOliver at Rails 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted February 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2017 Wow . It does look superb. Seriously tempted even though I stopped modelling modern image a few years ago . I had thought to get a ScotRail one but the DRS one looks good too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) I held off ordering one of these until they had been seen in the flesh and at the moment I am glad that I did. The warning panels look terribly applied, Rails video shows glue around the name and the standard of wiring (see sound thread) is atrocious. I am so disappointed. That's 2 Scotrail sound locos that are probably not going to be purchased. Roy Edited February 15, 2017 by Roy Langridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Rails Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Wow . It does look superb. Seriously tempted even though I stopped modelling modern image a few years ago . I had thought to get a ScotRail one but the DRS one looks good too. Yes it really does look fantastic, they all do. I'm excited to hear the sound version which is due in soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy7 Posted February 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2017 Has anyone ordered the 68's off Kernow in DCC ready form, if so have they arrived yet? Ben I have two DCC Ready on order from Kernow but have yet to hear anything from them. I have emailed so I'm sure will hear something tomorrow. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) Cheers for that, I was wondering if my order was left out since people have already got theirs through the post?? Glad to know its not just me! Could someone kindly attach a link to the rails vid, I cant find it. Cheers all, Ben Top of this thread http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/119978-dapols-new-class-68-locomotives Roy Edited February 15, 2017 by Roy Langridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bensanchez43310 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Top of this thread http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/119978-dapols-new-class-68-locomotives Roy Cheers mate, watched the vid and although it had little QC problems here and there, it still looks great IMHO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluo66 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I am also very dissapointed if the 68s have such quality problems. I had also issues with a brand new class 52 two years ago. The 73s had their issues. That's the reason why I haven't preordered the ScotRail versions. For this it is too much money in my eyes. And it seems to me that Dapol has not learned from the past... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2017 Cheers mate, watched the vid and although it had little QC problems here and there, it still looks great IMHO They do look good, but if I'm going to spend nearly £500 on two sound locos I don't expect those errors to be there. The yellow being the wrong colour in unforgivable, they have worked with DRS on these! As for the application, it just looks shoddy. My biggest dislike though is the wiring, how they can sell items with the PCBs looking as though they have been patched is beyond me. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bensanchez43310 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 They do look good, but if I'm going to spend nearly £500 on two sound locos I don't expect those errors to be there. The yellow being the wrong colour in unforgivable, they have worked with DRS on these! As for the application, it just looks shoddy. My biggest dislike though is the wiring, how they can sell items with the PCBs looking as though they have been patched is beyond me. Roy Only a handful were affected say Dapol, so I guess the only way to find out is to open them up and judge yourself Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted February 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) I went off modern image when 66s took over everything. 67s are not exactly visually inspiring while the 70 is just plain hideous . However this 68 looks really good. Just been watching the real thing on YouTube and it really is inspiring. I am tempted, but I think this is one to be treated with caution, following issues with the 73. You might have thought they would have learned from experience. Clearly there are some QC issues, so might want to inspect it before I buy. Hopefully some models will be running at Model Rail Scotland so I can see them up close. And maybe keep an eye out for YouTube reviews before taking the plunge . Edited February 15, 2017 by Legend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2017 Only a handful were affected say Dapol, so I guess the only way to find out is to open them up and judge yourself Ben That's a handful that should have been reworked and not sold. Tacking wires on by hand to SMD components is not the way to have a long-lived product. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bensanchez43310 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 That's a handful that should have been reworked and not sold. Tacking wires on by hand to SMD components is not the way to have a long-lived product. Roy This is very true, shouldn't have ever happened in the first place, although it was a tough decision I could imagine, the pressure to deliver what was a much overdue product can cause instances like such, and with the good customer service of Dapol, I'm sure all can be sorted... Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 This is very true, shouldn't have ever happened in the first place, although it was a tough decision I could imagine, the pressure to deliver what was a much overdue product can cause instances like such, and with the good customer service of Dapol, I'm sure all can be sorted... Ben Well this sort of unacceptable QC better not inflict the limited edition 68001 from DRS, I just forked out £205 for the privilege and too be honest will send it straight back if any of these issues shown are on this model. Actually, will email DRS customer services to have them or someone in the chain inspect the model before dispatch...if it's possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) Here are some photos 005 IMG_1135.JPG IMG_1136.JPG IMG_1137.JPG IMG_1138.JPG IMG_1139.JPG Super model all told. Can't complain really, the 1 nameplate at an angle though..... will have to prize that off..... The yellow on the nose, I can live with. Plates glued on at bizarre angles and with glue splurging over the sides is simply unforgivable. Why-oh-why don't they simply put the damn things in a bag so that we can glue our own plates on straight?! I hope you guys don't mind but I posted links of a couple of your photos to the Dapol forum - if that's an issue let me know and I'll happily remove them - however, hopefully someone from Dapol will respond. I have the two DRS models en route to me and I really don't have the time and patience to be messing around with these ridiculous issues at the present time. Edited February 15, 2017 by YesTor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) I've had my hands on a 68005 this evening. (I've not been to the shop today, one was brought home by my good lady) What I have noted is that the light lenses appear to be secured by a form of tacky glue, which makes them removable. It seems that the "Rubbed off" paint is not such, but actually smears of glue which have turned black. Not an ideal solution, but a wipe with a damp cloth (or a baby wipe in my case) has cleaned up the offending smudges A couple of the light lenses were protruding, but these pushed back into place, with the tack-glue holding them where they are supposed to be. the nameplates are glued with a hard glue - be very careful as they will ping off and the glue takes the top layer of print with it, fortunately all under the plate on my attempt. The only other issue I found on my example was less than perfect application of the yellow on the pointy nose bits directly beneath the cab window. On of the points is missing a bit of the yellow, which does detract from the appearance. Other than that, and without actually looking inside the model (yet) it seems like a nice model. Edited February 15, 2017 by Trains4U Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 When you get a DCC-fitted version, I’d like a demonstration of the various lighting options please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leavesontheline Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Just a thought but could some of the wonky nameplates just be an optical illusion? I agree that in RS4's photo of Defiant it certainly does look wonky but sometimes camera lens effects can worsen an existing optical illusion. I'm just wondering if due to the shallow angle of the green 'swooshy' lines under the nameplates it gives the illusion of the plate not being straight? Personally I think I'd rather have been left to stick them on myself! Probably with something less permanent than Dapol have used by the sound of it too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanspareil Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Just a thought but could some of the wonky nameplates just be an optical illusion? I agree that in RS4's photo of Defiant it certainly does look wonky but sometimes camera lens effects can worsen an existing optical illusion. I'm just wondering if due to the shallow angle of the green 'swooshy' lines under the nameplates it gives the illusion of the plate not being straight? Personally I think I'd rather have been left to stick them on myself! Probably with something less permanent than Dapol have used by the sound of it too! Maybe an idea is china ship models in just a kit of parts to complete ourselves, 1) to cut model RRP's and 2) to ensure high standards of build quality that are often lacking? Just a tongue in cheek idea......however...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leavesontheline Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Maybe an idea is china ship models in just a kit of parts to complete ourselves, 1) to cut model RRP's and 2) to ensure high standards of build quality that are often lacking? Just a tongue in cheek idea......however...... Yes, that was basically Vi-trains' approach! Don't get me wrong, I love the pre-fitted buffer beam detail, that looks great and can be a pain to do on some models, but nameplates are something I'd rather 'get wrong' myself or preferably stick on with something that is removable! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium amwells Posted February 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) In the Rails video, aside from one slightly wonky nameplate, at the end, the handrail round the cab also appears to have popped out at the top. Looks fantastic otherwise Edited February 16, 2017 by amwells Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenmodelmonkey Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Let Please remember people's jobs could be at risk here, I think one has already gone. Neil has promised full and frank discussion soon. I suggest we are patient until then and shows us his are the experience and safe pair of hands Dapol has needed. Don't forget there are a significant number of people who have made a significant investment with Dapol and in return are effectively are supporting them as a business. If the business is to remain positive then tough times are sometimes needed. If the rumour you suggest is true it does not mean things will get better for us the end customer they could stay the same, get better or even get worse. Time will tell we just won't know until we have put our hands in our pockets and the next product lands on our door mats in the distant furure... then it's all too late again but many will just accept some of the quality issues as they have waited so long to own the model. Sounds like a pretty good business model to me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofjamie Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I'd really love to get one, but unfortunately my numbers didn't come up in the lottery last night, so I'm going to have to pass. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bensanchez43310 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I have two DCC Ready on order from Kernow but have yet to hear anything from them. I have emailed so I'm sure will hear something tomorrow. Andy Have Kernow replied mate? I was expecting them today to be honest,,, Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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