bertiedog Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Here in Oz, my chosen yeasty spread is Promite, which is more like the Marmite of old, though with a higher sugar content. Whoo.. there...., you mean the Aussies actually allow a rival to Vegimite? Surely an offence to all true outbackers. The down side of Kraft selling the brand back to the Aussies is that Krafty Kraft retain the right to make the current rubbish for outside Australia, so the new product would have to be smuggled in to the UK, via Earls Court of course! Stephen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Apparently, 'the main ingredients of Marmite manufactured in the UK are glutamic acid-rich yeast extract, with lesser quantities of sodium chloride, vegetable extract, spice extracts and celery extracts, although the precise composition is a trade secret.' [Wikimite] The factory used waste brewing yeast and a veg extract from surplus/old produce. As a home brewer, I've been idly wondering how to use the dead yeast precipitated from a brew. At present it goes on the garden. How could I make yeast extract? We have a compost bin for fruit/veg and garden waste which produces a flow of high-nutrient dark liquid from the bottom. Again, plants love this. There is an organic, artisanal product here just waiting to be made. Could be called 'Davamite'? Dava http://www.msmarmitelover.com/2011/04/how-to-make-your-own-marmite.html Try the link to make your own, there are lots of recipes on line.!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wollastonblue Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Marmite is the nectar of the gods. Can't say I've noticed a change as I trowel it on everything; toast, a cheese sandwich, mixed in with Scrambled Eggs, drizzled over Cheesey Baked Beans, or my current favourite use, glazing roast potatoes! I do miss the XO version, the cashews and the chocolate bars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I am assured that to make the XO version, you take the standard and dilute with a little Port, whisking in about three teaspoons full of fine sea salt, and one of sugar. The mix is warmed and gently simmered to reduce by about 10-20%, do not risk burning the mixture (it can take hours), then bottle and store for a year or so. This comes from a Michelin starred Chef friend, who also added Monosodium Glutamate to one batch with great success, its addition guarantees health freaks will treat it as toxic waste. Stephen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 And just to annoy Lea and Perrins (their copyright and patent long ran out !) Real Worcestershire Sauce 4 Shallots; finely chopped or minced 1 litre Good malt vinegar 90 ml Walnut ketchup (see recipe) 75 ml Anchovy essence 60 ml Soy sauce 3 grm Cayenne pepper Salt 2 tablespoons Combine ingredients in a clean bottle. Seal it tightly. Shake several times daily for about 14 to 20 days, then strain sauce into small bottles, leaving a headspace in each. Seal tightly, label, and store in a cool, dry place. Walnut Ketchup is pickled walnuts, plus dates, mashed in the black walnut vinegar and strained. Anchovy essence is mashed good quality anchovies. Other spices can be added like Turmeric and Coriander seeds, crushed, it is after all an Indian recipe.. From "Mrs Beeton's Book Of Cookery And Home Management" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Okay, in the interests of food science and home economics, a controlled taste test. Single piece of white toast split down the middle, two spreading knives to prevent cross contamination. Glass of water to cleanse the palate. On the left, one jar of Marmite. On the right, one cats arse*. Righto, tasting about to commence, will report back in a mo. (*Thanks to Treacle for her willingness to partake in this important scientific study.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Aaarrrrgggh, Aaaaaarrrggh, Aaaaaarrrrggghhhh..... No!, Noooo, it doesn't, Whoopi Goldberg is WRONG!, it definitely doesn't taste like Marmite, it tastes like, like...cat sh1t. Aaaaaarrrrggghh.... And a glass of water does not cleanse the taste! Even Marmite doesn't mask it.... . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 That's a shame Arthur as the old pencil-sharpener would have made an easier dispenser than trying to get the last bits out of the squeezy bottles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted April 12, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 12, 2017 As a home brewer, I've been idly wondering how to use the dead yeast precipitated from a brew. At present it goes on the garden. How could I make yeast extract? Dava I used to use the bottom bit in a batch of home brew, the bit with all the yeast in it, as stock for a stew. It worked a treat and tasted lovely. In my bachelor days I made a stew when my teetotal mother and aunt came for lunch. They complemented me on the taste of the stew and I had to be a little economical with the truth as to the trade secret. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Aaarrrrgggh, Aaaaaarrrggh, Aaaaaarrrrggghhhh..... No!, Noooo, it doesn't, Whoopi Goldberg is WRONG!, it definitely doesn't taste like Marmite, it tastes like, like...cat sh1t. Aaaaaarrrrggghh.... And a glass of water does not cleanse the taste! Even Marmite doesn't mask it.... . My dog likes cat sh1t. I wonder if she'd also like Marmite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Marmite bottles don't have claws. That'll do for me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Chop sauce and Gentlemens Relish... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I do the Marmite sandwich thing with sliced green apple, just a thin spread then the apple, lovely healthy lunch. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted April 12, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 12, 2017 Marmite is pure devil seed the current Mrs B likes it so I'm on to a winner Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I am still wondering about Whoopi Goldberg's discovery of what cats do-dars taste like, was it a mistake digging them up, or was it from a kitty litter tray mistaken for food in a kitchen.......not having ever sampled a cat, I am in no way sure about the comparison, with yeast extract. It certainly smells different, there is no whiff of gourmet delight in cats do-dars. Marmite delight in saying people hate it, but I think the marketing ploy has run it's course and may be backfiring on the sales. Generally Americans sit on the scale of liking large portions of bland processed to death food, the Swedes are opposite with the stinking fish etc., and the UK has Marmite. The French like ripe cheeses, and the Germans like strong fermented Cabbage..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 ....There is an organic, artisanal product here just waiting to be made. Could be called 'Davamite'?... I'd have called it Hammerite if that name hadn't already been taken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2017 I must admit that the change in recipe to Marmite will make no difference to me, I class Marmite eaters alongside Jehovahs Witnesses, Greenpeace members and German car drivers as people who won't see sense, so I just let them get on with it. Mike. PS. Worcestershire sauce, utter tosh, Hendersons Relish every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Popplewell Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Whoopi Goldberg says eating Marmite is like licking a Cats Arse! Regardless of how she knows this, I would have to agree. It has to be one of the worst tasting man made substances I have ever tried! Our next door neighbours cat is called Marmite. After reading this post I wonder if somethings going on next door I'd rather not have known about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Cat Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I do miss the XO version, the cashews and the chocolate bars. There's Marmite Chocolate eggs in our local supermarket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Has anyone tried Australian cat's bottom? Is it any different from the British? K Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham456 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 The question of the day is not weather Australian or English cats bottom is better..... But why as a marmite hater I have just read this thread! Aaaaaaagh yuck! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 Very interesting that so many folks choice of seasoning is Marmite. Most of my deblanding is with sambal oelek, nam pla and the like, with excursions into various soy based concoctions if friends are coming round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted April 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 13, 2017 Has anyone tried Australian cat's bottom? Is it any different from the British? K Probably the same as the difference between Vegimite and Marmite!!!!! I can't remember Marmite but I know Vegemite is bad enough to abandon any further tests! My wife loves Vegemite, but she has never been to Britain; so pointless asking her to taste an Australian cat. There, that doesn't answer your question, but I suspect that is the closest you will get to answer! You could always come to Australia to complete your own tests. Nothing beats doing it yourself, so goes the saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham456 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 There's Marmite Chocolate eggs in our local supermarket. Yes ! but you lot batter and fry mars bars! And Boil for hours horse oats in water and chuck salt on top! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikks Posted April 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2017 I like Marmite - but every time I try and buy it in the ‘States it mysteriously disappears from the cabinet after a day or two never to be seen again, so I gave up fighting this odd “black hole”. I like it on sliced bread with Raspberry Jam on top! How does Vegemite really compare? Best, Pete. Much better............but I still don't like it much!!! Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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