RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2021 Here's mine running fine on Code 75 Peco and more to be seen on my layout thread anon. The early crest livery and crimson stock sit deliciously together. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted January 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Dunsignalling said: This is an offcut of SMP left over from the construction of Bath Green Park (so c2000) and pre-painted by Norman before laying. As you can see, the tops of the chairs taper in under the rail head, upon further interrogation of my memory cells, I think the issue with C&L track of that time, was that the chairs, whilst no higher, had flat tops that stuck inwards between the rails. That's why some wheels hit them, and I think it happened with older (1960s/70s) Romfords too. John Disclaimer: C&L has changed hands at least a couple of times since then, and has probably been retooled. Off thread... yup I agree that C&L certainly had chair bumping issues, as you say and the ‘coarse scale’ Romfords used to hit them. I seem to recall SMP though (80’s) didn’t have those problems. And back on thread... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Dunsignalling said: I notice that I have, at some time, fitted my WD with Markits tender wheels, so maybe the flanges on the loco are shallower Exactly so, John. On mine, the tender and pony wheels had deeper flanges than the driving wheels. Fortunately that was a relatively easy fix, as you also found out and it meant that the loco remained viable for me to continue using. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, PMP said: Off thread... yup I agree that C&L certainly had chair bumping issues, as you say and the ‘coarse scale’ Romfords used to hit them. I seem to recall SMP though (80’s) didn’t have those problems. And back on thread... Apologies for dragging things So easy to just get caught up with one or two posts and forget about the original theme. John 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Izzy Posted January 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2021 The only commonality I have found with recent RTR wheel standards is that there isn't any. Just getting a reasonably similar b-t-b seems an achievement in itself. As far as getting clearance between splashers for the wider gauges goes this seems if anything more problematic these days due I think to the not unreasonable desire to get outside splasher distances more to scale which in combination with the adoption of cast footplates means inside distances are often quite a bit less than in the past and often not sufficient without a lot of work with burrs etc. Although 22mm is often seen as enough with plastic footplates I feel that 23mm is needed to ensure that shorting doesn't occurr while allowing a modicum of sideplay with metal ones such as the cast ones now being used. I don't know what material the 94xx has but I fear a fair bit of work will be needed whether for EM or P4 whatever the case. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I can't spot any makers plates for the outside contractor built locos (Stephenson, Bagnall, Yorkshire). Did the locos carry them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 They're on the front splasher behind the spare lamp irons. Did they only have them on one side? The book's away at the moment so can't check. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: They're on the front splasher behind the spare lamp irons. Hmmm. They're not present on the preserved 9466. (Although its plates might have been nicked a long time ago.) Note the white-tipped lamp irons. (!) Edit: There's a few on Rail-Online where the plate is just about visible. Attached to the left-hand side splasher only, a la 57xx. Edited January 29, 2021 by Miss Prism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimboBrit Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 6 hours ago, Miss Prism said: I can't spot any makers plates for the outside contractor built locos (Stephenson, Bagnall, Yorkshire). Did the locos carry them? Yes. See my avatar from 8405 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) Ok, tick the box for the Bagnalls and the Yorkshires. But the Stephensons (9410-89) ? Edited January 29, 2021 by Miss Prism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Tick the box for the Stephensons: http://www.9466.co.uk/sites/default/files/styles/original/public/10031208.jpg?itok=XFysUw-t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) I now own (but do not yet possess) a Bachmann 94xx, having contacted Rails this morning and given them my money. It’s just the delivery now; when will this torture end... I will, next week, order 8448 nameplates from Railtec for it and, in the meantime, find a source of Bagnall builder’s plates (9487 comes with Stepenson’s plated correct for that loco. Oh, and a Modelu crew! Preciousssssssss. Where’s a Gollum emoji when you need one... Edited January 29, 2021 by The Johnster 3 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tim Hall Posted January 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Johnster said: I now own (but do not yet possess) a Bachmann 94xx, having contacted Rails this morning and given them my money. It’s just the delivery now; when will this torture end... I will, next week, order 8448 nameplates from Railtec for it and, in the meantime, find a source of Bagnall builder’s plates (9487 comes with Stepenson’s plated correct for that loco. Oh, and a Modelu crew! Preciousssssssss. Where’s a Gollum emoji when you need one... There'll be one about a mile from you by 1.49 today, if an email from Royal Mail to me is to be believed..... Edited January 29, 2021 by Tim Hall Typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimboBrit Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 38 minutes ago, The Johnster said: find a source of Bagnall builder’s plates If you find one please let me know. Or I could try scanning my 8405 Bagnall plate and printing at 1:76. Would that work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted January 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Miss Prism said: Hmmm. They're not present on the preserved 9466. (Although its plates might have been nicked a long time ago.) Note the white-tipped lamp irons. (!) Edit: There's a few on Rail-Online where the plate is just about visible. Attached to the left-hand side splasher only, a la 57xx. That'll be the late Dennis Howells. He was absolutely determined to have the loco in green. which was why it masqueraded as 9404. No doubt the plate (s) were stolen at Barry, and there wasn't a great rush to replace them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisTramwayMan Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 On a different note, has anyone else out there had problems with the rear steps broken off ? Have now had 3 arrive, and 2 out 3 (both variants - rear facing bufferbeam mounted steps and side facing) have both suffered from the issue, one losing both, the other 1 only. In both cases, the steps were rattling about in the plastic packaging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 My steps are OK - but they're a right fiddle to get back into that packaging ..... obviously some don't make it in the first place ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisTramwayMan Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: My steps are OK - but they're a right fiddle to get back into that packaging ..... obviously some don't make it in the first place ! Yes, looking at 9402 the GWR one then I think the knack is to get the rear steps in their recesses then push the front running plate gently down. Extremely snug though - not surprised they're getting breakages (redesign Bachmann ?). I was very surprised, however, to have the issue with a BR Black one as well, ie, the side facing steps. And there probably isn't enough contact area to successfully repair. As always, a disappointment - you read great reviews, look forward to your model arriving, open the parcel and even before you get round to extracting the model you can see the bits floating around and know nuts, it's broken. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 Thanks for the headsup about this; clearly the model needs very careful unpacking. Not a disaster if the bits are in the box, but good to be aware of it to prevent losing them or further damage. Had a brand new 42xx from Hornby that had shed it's couplings and a buffer at each end, then continued to drop bits in service; vac. bags, the other buffers. I now gently tug such items and glue them in if they are loose or come off in 'me 'ands, guv, 'onest. A packaging retool should not be expensive or difficult... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Tim Hall said: There'll be one about a mile from you by 1.49 today, if an email from Royal Mail to me is to be believed..... Well done Tim, you must be counting down the seconds and looking out the window! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tim Hall Posted January 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Johnster said: Well done Tim, you must be counting down the seconds and looking out the window! I am....still.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 hours ago, tomparryharry said: That'll be the late Dennis Howells. He was absolutely determined to have the loco in green. which was why it masqueraded as 9404. No doubt the plate (s) were stolen at Barry, and there wasn't a great rush to replace them. Presumably he had his reasons. I can recall a time when it was next to impossible to see one on a magazing feature layout or at a show in BR livery, and many were in earlier GW liveries and fully lined out! Did he have the cover plates between the frames ahead of the smokebox? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted January 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 47 minutes ago, The Johnster said: Presumably he had his reasons. I can recall a time when it was next to impossible to see one on a magazing feature layout or at a show in BR livery, and many were in earlier GW liveries and fully lined out! Did he have the cover plates between the frames ahead of the smokebox? I can't remember all of the detail, but he was on a mission to have the loco ready for GW150. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) Works plates. Try Narrow Planet. https://www.lightrailwaystores.co.uk/collections/works-plate-styles Fantastic plates but more aimed at the industrials and narrow gauge than main line railways. They also do one offs of things like smokebox door numbers. Here's the Bagnall one. https://www.lightrailwaystores.co.uk/collections/works-plate-styles/products/npp-2104 Jason Edited January 29, 2021 by Steamport Southport 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 50 minutes ago, tomparryharry said: I can't remember all of the detail, but he was on a mission to have the loco ready for GW150. Which was successful; I had a go at firing it at Maindy open day, along with Iron Duke. It ran Radyr trips to Maindy during the preceeding week, including one via Central and Queen Street! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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