For those interested in "Modern Classic" Cars

[peanuts]

33 minutes ago, russ p said:

One of my old favourites,  used to photocopy it and put it under the wipers on my mates golf

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=the+golf+gti+will+be+along+in+a+second&client=tablet-android-samsung-nf-rev1&prmd=nvi&sxsrf=ALeKk02VfakJjZilrflo-R621fomJvP5xg:1589206115557&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi1_veP_qvpAhVYQhUIHXAJA_gQ_AUoA3oECAwQAw&biw=800&bih=1280#imgrc=9u6AkUfTuFqI9M

reminds me of the spoof mg adverts created on one of the owners club websites warning some nsfw language 

[russ p]

32 minutes ago, peanuts said:

reminds me of the spoof mg adverts created on one of the owners club websites warning some nsfw language 

 

 

 I dare put the maestro one in the car for a show but not sure about these in my ZR or ZT

[RANGERS]

5 hours ago, russ p said:

One of my old favourites,  used to photocopy it and put ith to the  under the wipers on my mates golf

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=the+golf+gti+will+be+along+in+a+second&client=tablet-android-samsung-nf-rev1&prmd=nvi&sxsrf=ALeKk02VfakJjZilrflo-R621fomJvP5xg:1589206115557&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi1_veP_qvpAhVYQhUIHXAJA_gQ_AUoA3oECAwQAw&biw=800&bih=1280#imgrc=9u6AkUfTuFqI9M

In fairness the 16v was a closer match to the MG Turbo and knocked half a second off that 8.6 figure.

 

I had a std MG 1600 version for a few days in 1985 when my MG Metro was in for its third gearbox rebuild and I insisted on something nearer the mark than the 1.0 I'd had the previous twice. Aside from suspension which gave it a tad too much body roll for my liking, it was a cracking car and only a major fall out with the dealer after the gearbox bearings failed for a fourth time stopped me buying one to rid myself of the troublesome Metro. It was mid-winter and I gather fuel evaporation was a problem when starting it from warm but it never gave me any issues.

[russ p]

2 hours ago, RANGERS said:

In fairness the 16v was a closer match to the MG Turbo and knocked half a second off that 8.6 figure.

 

I had a std MG 1600 version for a few days in 1985 when my MG Metro was in for its third gearbox rebuild and I insisted on something nearer the mark than the 1.0 I'd had the previous twice. Aside from suspension which gave it a tad too much body roll for my liking, it was a cracking car and only a major fall out with the dealer after the gearbox bearings failed for a fourth time stopped me buying one to rid myself of the troublesome Metro. It was mid-winter and I gather fuel evaporation was a problem when starting it from warm but it never gave me any issues.

 

I had a MG 1600 back in the day , they were a fun car but so high maintenance always needing something.  The EFi to me is one of the most  competent all round cars ever built.  Can't wait to  get mine done

The turbo maestro was a  class above the 16v golf,  supposedly 152bhp they were far more than that but unbelievably uneconomic and always ran in high water temperature but fun but not the all round package of the EFi

[big jim]

 

30 minutes ago, russ p said:

 

I had a MG 1600 back in the day , they were a fun car but so high maintenance always needing something. 

sounds like my mini, the blue one is off the road again!

 

starter motor this time I think, nothing at all when you turn the key, not even a click, bump start and it goes 1st time, I can get one for £15 but it’s the time to get it over to my mate on the Wirral and get a train back that I don’t have, ive decided to leave it until the end of the month and get it done then (along with the sump gasket and oil cooler o ring that are weeping slightly, he’s going to do the piston shim things too while the sump is off 

 

ill use the red car for now, I need to keep the mileage down on the blue one anyway, saying that I used the Touareg for work today and it was lovely on the motorway, I’d taken the bluefin off it the other week as I didn’t think it made much difference but I reactivated it before leaving bescot and on the drive home I realised it does actually make a fair difference acceleration wise when overtaking 

[MJI]

10 hours ago, russ p said:

 

I had a MG 1600 back in the day , they were a fun car but so high maintenance always needing something.  The EFi to me is one of the most  competent all round cars ever built.  Can't wait to  get mine done

The turbo maestro was a  class above the 16v golf,  supposedly 152bhp they were far more than that but unbelievably uneconomic and always ran in high water temperature but fun but not the all round package of the EFi

 

Not a Golf GTI fan either. for my hot hatches prefer the Scottish choice.

 

But I think the Maestro was well under rated. Was a perfectly decent roomy hatch which was a lot nicer than the equivalent Escort.

[MJI]

10 hours ago, big jim said:

 

sounds like my mini, the blue one is off the road again!

 

starter motor this time I think, nothing at all when you turn the key, not even a click, bump start and it goes 1st time, I can get one for £15 but it’s the time to get it over to my mate on the Wirral and get a train back that I don’t have, ive decided to leave it until the end of the month and get it done then (along with the sump gasket and oil cooler o ring that are weeping slightly, he’s going to do the piston shim things too while the sump is off 

 

ill use the red car for now, I need to keep the mileage down on the blue one anyway, saying that I used the Touareg for work today and it was lovely on the motorway, I’d taken the bluefin off it the other week as I didn’t think it made much difference but I reactivated it before leaving bescot and on the drive home I realised it does actually make a fair difference acceleration wise when overtaking 

 

 

I need to change my fuel filter housing, two bolts into the chassis, not been touched in 16 years.

[peanuts]

On 11/05/2020 at 21:20, RANGERS said:

In fairness the 16v was a closer match to the MG Turbo and knocked half a second off that 8.6 figure.

 

I had a std MG 1600 version for a few days in 1985 when my MG Metro was in for its third gearbox rebuild and I insisted on something nearer the mark than the 1.0 I'd had the previous twice. Aside from suspension which gave it a tad too much body roll for my liking, it was a cracking car and only a major fall out with the dealer after the gearbox bearings failed for a fourth time stopped me buying one to rid myself of the troublesome Metro. It was mid-winter and I gather fuel evaporation was a problem when starting it from warm but it never gave me any issues.

correct fuel starvation on hot days/hot restarts were a known problem comes from putting a pair of twin downdraughts with metal airfilter boxes right above the exhaust manifold where all the hot air gets trapped causing the fuel to evaporate .cured by fitting an after market foam airfilter (usualy itg ) to allow the heat to dissipate worked fine on a colleague's 1600 when i worked at rochdale he was pulling his hair out with the local arg dealer  60 quid well spent 

Edited May 13, 2020 by peanuts

[MJI]

I have click and collected 100 bricks today.

 

All happily in back of car.

 

Carrying them from car to garden was horrible due to my bad back and my wife was carrying 3 at a time.

 

I had to sit on a low stool to stack them.

 

Loading was hand on bumper to support back.

 

 

[Classsix T]

2 hours ago, MJI said:

I have click and collected 100 bricks today.

 

All happily in back of car.

 

Carrying them from car to garden was horrible due to my bad back and my wife was carrying 3 at a time.

 

I had to sit on a low stool to stack them.

 

Loading was hand on bumper to support back.

 

 

I thought a bag of cement or a paving slab was the accepted route to DIY handling improvements Martin, but as you were. 

 

C6T. 

[peanuts]

2 hours ago, Classsix T said:

I thought a bag of cement or a paving slab was the accepted route to DIY handling improvements Martin, but as you were. 

 

C6T. 

nah lump of flat bottom rail is best smaller for weight 

[RANGERS]

4 hours ago, peanuts said:

nah lump of flat bottom rail is best smaller for weight 

Bullhead laid on its side is more stable...

[MJI]

18 hours ago, Classsix T said:

I thought a bag of cement or a paving slab was the accepted route to DIY handling improvements Martin, but as you were. 

 

C6T. 

 

 

A couple of years ago I brought back 400kg of wood flooring in the back.

 

That was interesting but within load limits of just over 900kg per air spring.

 

Oh and the car was level.

[monkeysarefun]

The Holden one tonner back in the '70's was intended  as a version of the ute that was able to cart a genuine ton in the back, having no body as such from the rear of the front doors back, just a flat wooden tray.

Being Australia it came with  V8 options which being the land of Mad Max were usually tricked up by go-fast enthusiasts to go a bit faster.

Handling as a result, particularly in the wet was a hoot..

 

 

 

[MJI]

I do like Holdens

[SWT442]

On 11/05/2020 at 15:43, peanuts said:

this made me chuckle 

 

Having owned one in the past, I take a little bit of offense to this unreliable moniker they have!

 

 

Yeah, okay, never mind then...

 

In fairness, and I hate to say it, point 2 does have some truth to it. Mine was the 2.2 CRD, which was the Mercedes lump, pulled well and alright on fuel, but the lack of a 6th gear meant the engine revved too high for my liking on the motorway. I didn't think it had a bad amount of equipment for a car from 2002, with cruise control, AC and heated leather seats. Plus, all the rear seats came out giving a decent load space.

 

But, owning 2 Chryslers isn't exactly good for the wallet, so it went as was replaced by my Mercedes A180. I sort of miss its ugly charm!

 

Andy.

[big jim]

I had one for a month or so, bought it cheap as a project, such a nail even after a load of work done I got rid of it for scrap! 
 

 

 

 

[MJI]

As to my liking of Holdens, very much related to my liking of big Russelheim Vauxhall Opels. And their floorpan adoption by Holdens

 

Would would NOT like a UK tuned V8 in a Senator?

 

Of big 6.0l engined Omegas?

 

Since I was a fan of these of course I would like the V8 ones in Austrailia. They are even eligable for ABS membership.

[298]

15 hours ago, big jim said:

I had one for a month or so, bought it cheap as a project, such a nail even after a load of work done I got rid of it for scrap! 

 

I had one for eleven years and met some great people through the owners club.  I often check it's MOT history as it's still on the road as a courtesy car/workshop hack for a classic car restorer and was surprised to see it had gained about 50,000 miles in a year, then I realised the owner had swapped the spare dashboard I gave him as the PSU had failed in the original and the car was displaying the donor's mileage. 

 

It was fine at the time and ticked all the boxes I wanted as well as being cheap to buy and not boring, but successive breakdowns and a lack of space to keep it meant it had to go. Ironically, the aircon in it was the most reliable bit and always blew freezing cold air, unlike our current cars that have both had to have new compressors on their warranties, the Wife's Zoe lasting for about a week before loosing all of its gas again.

Edited May 15, 2020 by 298

[great central]

I've had a PT for 6 or 7 years now, lost track to be honest.

Apart from suspension niggles which they're known for and not helped by the largely, now, unmade road that I live on it's given little trouble.

The worst thing was when the power steering pump disintegrated when I was on my way to Warley show the year I bought it, fortunately there were two of us in the car and we weren't far from a friend's house. We were headed there anyway so it wasn't too hard turning the steering between us, left the car there and had Green Flag pick it up the following Monday.

At ten years old it had less than 50k on the clock, it's now around 127k. 

Would I have another, why not, more interesting than your average Euro bubble.

 

Edit: as mentioned above the air con is very good, except I don't like air con so it's open windows instead!

Edited May 15, 2020 by great central
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[big jim]

Now you have written the above i tenner one of the problems I had , the power steering pump 

 

as soon as you filled the reservoir up it just leaked straight back out within minutes from the pump

 

one of the oil seals went too, that just leaked oil onto one of the pulleys and ended up spraying the engine bay with oil 

 

interestingly they must share an engine with the BMW mini somewhere along the line, I was looking at a gasket set for my cooper S (1.6) and the part number came up as mini/Chrysler pt 

 

I do know of someone who bought one purely because he liked the bonnet shape so he could pretend he was driving a class 37!

 

 

Edited May 15, 2020 by big jim

[SWT442]

The suspension on mine was its biggest issue, but that was more poor maintenance by the previous owner. All the bushes and drop links needed replacing as they were badly worn and it banged over any bump. Wasn't too bad once sorted, but by God, was it a terrible handling car! Cruising down the motorway to work, a pleasure, but on a fast and twisty road it was definitely an experience!

 

In the year I had it, there were a few other problems. A hot starting issue caused by a failed injector, and a common fault on the Mercedes engine. The gear selector cables fell to pieces, and were an eye watering amount for a new part, but luckily the garage I used were breaking a PT so had one robbed and put on for a nominal fee as well as having the thermostat replaced as it had failed and it always ran cold. It was a bit more fuel efficient after that one was done. But then, it was a 16 year old car, so age probably played a factor in some of the issues.

 

So far the Mercedes A180 that replaced it has just needed an AC re-gas in the year I've owned it!

 

5 hours ago, big jim said:

interestingly they must share an engine with the BMW mini somewhere along the line, I was looking at a gasket set for my cooper S (1.6) and the part number came up as mini/Chrysler pt

 

 

A little Wikipedia browse shows that Chrysler and Mini did indeed share an engine, the Tritec 1.6 engine, until 2008. Developed, along with a 1.4 lump, in a joint venture between Chrysler and Rover in the late 1990's. I'm not sure the UK saw the 1.6 in a PT. Most I've seen for sale have been the 2.2 diesel, with others the 2.0 & 2.4 petrol.

 

Always thought it was a shame the PT never got a bigger engine. Rear wheel drive and the 4.7 V8 that Chrysler had at the time would've been a laugh to drive! I mean, until it broke down, as Chryslers like to do...

 

Andy.

[298]

This was mine just before I sold it, a few people from the club were tyre kicking because they wanted the wheels but I put it on eBay on a Saturday evening and it was gone by Sunday lunchtime.

 

The suspension issue was cured by fitting polybushes and lowering it. In addition it had a new clutch and cylinders at 9k, intermittent airbag fault for about four years until I re-wired the seat loom, sticking front brake calipers, wheel bearings, exhaust mount rusted through, usual rust spots on the rear arches (dealer not interested), camshaft position sensor sending into limp mode whilst on holiday in Devon, and the final straw was the dashboard failing. It was fun to drive, but only in a straight line and slowly past reflective shop windows. Mrs 298 had one first and last go in it just before it went and said she was glad it was going...

 

Apparently they're very popular with banger racers because the back end is really solid, and didn't used to have inevitable hoots of derision as they were recognised as being different, but I've seen too many that have been customized beyond what reasonable taste would deem to be acceptable.

[steve1]

The convertible version looked a bit like bathtub. Certainly stand out in a crowd though.

 

steve

[peanuts]

got to use a few modern classics for a photoshoot last summer enjoy guys featuring a 911, clk ,stype ,and an mx5

 

Edited May 17, 2020 by peanuts