Michael Delamar Posted May 9, 2018 Author Share Posted May 9, 2018 Have those electricity pylons that follow the line up from Tyne dock incline been moved over the years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arun Sharma Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Post #450 is interesting. Not many 9Fs had AWS fitted but amongst the few that did, were all the pump-fitted Tyne Dock ones. The AWS bang plate was also a much more rectangular version than the type fitted to other standards [indeed other locos]. The extra small link in the standard 9F coupling i.e., the same as found on Bulleid pacifics and some other SR classes also shows up rather well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Have those electricity pylons that follow the line up from Tyne dock incline been moved over the years? Not a place I go to very often but I do have a photo of a Class 56 hauled train coming up from Tyne Dock in 1985 an the pylons were still there. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 Not a place I go to very often but I do have a photo of a Class 56 hauled train coming up from Tyne Dock in 1985 an the pylons were still there. John Some seem to have moved, if Im right one appears to be in the place of Green Lane signal box now, or at least the lines that ran beneath it to the staiths. Was wondering if they moved them when houses were built around the area of Tyne dock loco shed site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 (edited) I wanted to check with my production manager and he said no problem posting these which I took from the cab in 2014. There are rules now which I wont go into, but just wanted to give an idea of what the climb up from Tyne dock to Green Lane looks like now. This is one of the pylons I think has moved? Green Lane bridge. The loop was being installed at the time. Edited May 13, 2018 by Michael Delamar 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 No. That's the straight section of Tyne Dock Loco shed, which wasn't located at Tyne Dock for those that don't know. Simonside wagon works was off to the North West and accessed from St Bedes Junction on the South Shields to Jarrow line or directly from the BR yards at Tyne Dock Bottom. It was located on what is now Waldridge Way. https://goo.gl/maps/9UQwxW1PCrJ2 And here's a view of Simonside Wagon Works taken on 18th June 1979. I used to work at the nearby Ferrograph tape recorder factory where where, incidentally, one of the chaps in the final test department was an ex-fireman on the Tyne Dock 9Fs - quite a career change! Trevor 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 I wanted to check with my production manager and he said no problem posting these which I took from the cab in 2014. There are rules now which I wont go into, but just wanted to give an idea of what the climb up from Tyne dock to Green Lane looks like now. 6CB98696-5CC2-48FA-B6B3-EB024FC608D4.jpeg 1ABB1337-BB29-413E-87EC-CE2DEA84384B.jpeg C91F2C9B-3CDC-4863-B33A-05BAD1427195.jpeg A86A865F-2B11-4354-AC66-F15CBAEE11E4.jpeg 11560869-E788-45BC-9196-32033305FBE3.jpeg E868245F-12E2-4F64-B322-E6B7BF6C3F40.jpeg This is one of the pylons I think has moved? 227E8A13-18BC-444F-81D4-3E288BE7F75B.jpeg Green Lane bridge. 8540ABFE-824A-4878-84A9-18AC77DF6F5C.jpeg 06FE2008-0E90-43DC-9F59-A85EB034DBCD.jpeg The loop was being installed at the time. Rather the loop was being reinstated as it was originally installed for trains coming out of Westoe colliery for Tyne Coal Terminal however the signalling and points were never connected to Tyneside IECC when it was built and Boldon Colliery box was closed! Until the signalling was connected to the IECC the East junction was out of use and all trains going via the Coast were running round at Pelaw! Mark Saunders Mark Saunders 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 I mentioned in my previous post that I used to work at Ferrograph- which had its factory near to the point where ore trains crossed over the Jarrow-South Shields road, close by the landmarks known as 'Tyne Dock Arches'. These were massive stone structures built by the North Eastern Railway the previous century leading to staiths in Tyne Dock itself, the last of which was demolished in 1977. Occasionally my lunch break coincided with a departure for Consett, as on this day: 24106+25105 leaving Tyne Dock on 6th March 1974. The train has just crossed over the Jarrow-South Shields road. 'Tyne Dock Arches' are just beyond the base of the pylon on the right. Trevor 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Do diversions count on this thread? Here are a couple more Type 2 diesels with a loaded ore train at Low Fell. The first is in blue, the second still in green. D5107+D5102 at Low Fell on unrecorded date in August 1968, probably a Saturday or Sunday. Trevor 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Since my diversion picture at Low Fell in 1968 wasn't thrown out, here's another taken at the same spot - this time with a 9F. Sorry about the quality, it was pre-35mm days for me, unfortunately! At least the loco is relatively sharp. 92097 with a loaded ore train at Low Fell on 14th August 1965 I remember there was often a trail of purple pellets by the trackside after one of these trains had passed - I'm sure we picked pieces up, wish I had kept them now as souvenirs! Trevor 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Since my diversion picture at Low Fell in 1968 wasn't thrown out, here's another taken at the same spot - this time with a 9F. Sorry about the quality, it was pre-35mm days for me, unfortunately! At least the loco is relatively sharp. (234bS) 92097 Low Fell 14-8-65 (Trevor Ermel) .jpg 92097 with a loaded ore train at Low Fell on 14th August 1965 I remember there was often a trail of purple pellets by the trackside after one of these trains had passed - I'm sure we picked pieces up, wish I had kept them now as souvenirs! Trevor They are still available in Tyne Yard, the bridge over West Street at Gateshead and Boldon North Juction; plus they are available for sale on eBay! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I remember there was often a trail of purple pellets by the trackside after one of these trains had passed - I'm sure we picked pieces up, wish I had kept them now as souvenirs! Trevor Lots still to be found at the site of Beamish station... John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Here's a shot of an iron ore wagon at Pelaw being pulled by Q6 63431 in 1967. The chalk inscriptions read 'Tyne Dock Shops' so presumably it's on its way to Simonside Wagon Works for repair. 63431 and ore wagon at Pelaw 26th May 1967 Trevor 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 It looks like it has a card in the cage, presumably green carded crippled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Not actually on the Tyne Dock-Consett route (although not too far away), but showing one of the 9Fs which used to work the ore trains: No 92066 (the first one to be withdrawn) in the scrap yard of Ellis (Metals) Ltd in Swalwell, near Gateshead. 92066 at Ellis (Metals) Ltd on 10th August 1965. You can see where the air pumps used to be in the cut-out in the running plate on this side. On the left, Q6 No 63359 awaits a similar fate. Trevor 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I am lead to believe that 92066 was a bad steamer and was generally used as a banker rather than the train engine. I know there photos as train engine but it was suggested that this was avoided because of the steaming issue. Could this be the reason why it was first to be scrapped? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I am lead to believe that 92066 was a bad steamer and was generally used as a banker rather than the train engine. I know there photos as train engine but it was suggested that this was avoided because of the steaming issue. Could this be the reason why it was first to be scrapped? It also looks like it has suffered some collision damage above and ahead of the RH cylinder. Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Not actually on the Tyne Dock-Consett route (although not too far away), but showing one of the 9Fs which used to work the ore trains: No 92066 (the first one to be withdrawn) in the scrap yard of Ellis (Metals) Ltd in Swalwell, near Gateshead. (005b) Ellis Metals 92066+63359 10-8-65 (T.Ermel) .jpg 92066 at Ellis (Metals) Ltd on 10th August 1965. You can see where the air pumps used to be in the cut-out in the running plate on this side. On the left, Q6 No 63359 awaits a similar fate. Trevor Hi, Thanks for the info as I can now confirm the photo I took in Tyne Dock shed in June 1965 is 92066.. I had presumed it was 92066 by the withdrawal date of May 1965 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 Recently bought this new DVD with lots of Tyne dock to Consett footage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Recently bought this new DVD with lots of Tyne dock to Consett footage. 8F566342-3E43-4F9F-802E-BDE9447B4628.jpeg Bought it a few weeks ago as well, some excellent footage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 It looks like it has a card in the cage, presumably green carded crippled. The metaphorical writing on the wall - Tyne Dock Shops - in fresh chalk! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 As part of my interest in the Consett line, I'm fascinated by how things have changed over the years. This evening I've been looking at the rope worked incline at Pelton, although it was called Waldridge Incline (not part of the Consett line itself but it did feed coal wagons in to Stella Gill and from there on to the rest of the rail network). Here's the incline (the straight lines running across the centre) and it's surroundings and 1914: and here it is in 2014: The railway has, of course gone but, with the exception of the road, literally everything else has as well... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 That looks like the 1896 survey to me John. The survey recorders cocked up a couple of the street names. James (Edward) Street. Greys vinegar works (Chapel) is also missing. I only know because one of my five godmothers was born in Railway Terrace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Thanks for that Paul, there was a date range on the map and I just chose the later date. Amazing how much has completely disappeared... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 As an even more extreme example of how the landscape has changed, I give you Consett Steel Works in 1892 (and bear in mind it got bigger in the 1900s): and exactly the same part of Consett now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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