Porcy Mane Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) OOoooo, Day of the diesels... So was I about right with the date? P Edited August 27, 2017 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) Bill doesn't have the date, just 66/67 Somewhere I've got the dates that the Claytons were on trial, I'll try to dig it out later. John Edited August 27, 2017 by johndon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Somewhere I've got the dates that the Claytons were on trial, I'll try to dig it out later. They're not the trial Claytons though. That was Sept. 63. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 They're not the trial Claytons though. That was Sept. 63. You are, of course, correct. I've can find nothing on them working the line at in in 66/67... John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 You are, of course, correct. I've can find nothing on them working the line at in in 66/67... There's a few pictures and some good accounts by the late Harry Friend on him driving them up to Consett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 We could always ask Mr Watson via his photo site. https://ironroad.smugmug.com/1960s-Steam-Finale/i-QZNKNmB/O What a totally magnificent collection ! ...and not just of the NE either. dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) There's a few pictures and some good accounts by the late Harry Friend on him driving them up to Consett. Given they were such an abject failure in the trials I wonder why they were brought back, was there a shortage of converted 24s so double heading wasn't an option? John Edited August 28, 2017 by johndon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) They were already ordered un-tried for delivery to Thornaby & Gateshead. Even with the opening of Tyne & Tees Yards the Tyneside, Wearside & Tees-side conurbations still had a multitude of large and small industries and businesses that were railway served, to which the working of, the Clayton was ideally suited. When people talk about the Claytons being a failure on the trials they omit a few pertinent facts. The Scottish Claytons were trialled at a time when their initial reliability problems were not fully recognised or understood. One of the initial pair sent from Scotland never made it out of Gateshead shed meaning a replacement had to be sent for. Despite what has been written elsewhere the Claytons were tried hauling the Iron Ore trains and not just banking it. I spent a week in the next hospital bed to a chap that had been responsible for recording the "time & motion study" information for the trial. No railwayman I've talked to has yet known the reasons why the classes 24, and 25 were initially worked singly on the iron ores. Looking and the temporary nature of the compressor and associated pipework that still meant the loco's needed to be turned at each end of their journey. I have suggested it may have been due to a shortage of suitable compressor fitted diesels but reports in the contemporary railway press at the time give the impression that work was well in hand. One of the first ((It may have been the first but I don't have my records to hand) single Class 24s to work the iron ore slipped then stalled in light drizzle between South Pelaw and Pelton. It had no banker. Fortunately a photographer was on hand to record the event, with driver on bent knees trying to clear the sand pipes. One thing I was told was that some of the 25's despite being recently returned from Derby works were shaking themselves to pieces on the climb up to Pelton and going through Beamish cutting. P P edited to add "slipped then". Edited August 28, 2017 by Porcy Mane 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 An unidentified Class 46 (I think, could be a 45) at Leadgate with a track lifting train, photo copyright Allen Marrs. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 37270 with the final track lifting train to leave Consett on 25 September 1984. Photo copyright Allen Marrs. The guy standing next to the motorbike is actually Stephen McGahon who's photos I have added to this thread a number of times so it appears that he and Allen were photographing the same train just from different sides of the line... John 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishlocos Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Guys A very quick question what happened to the PTA tipplers from these trains when Consett was closed Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Guys A very quick question what happened to the PTA tipplers from these trains when Consett was closed Thanks Sold to Procor and mainly used in the Mendips. The Ravenscraig ones went to VTG. Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 A couple of my purchases from the Liverpool model railway show this weekend gone. The book is excellent, the DVD is also but has hardly any shots of the ore workings. Are there any DVDs which focus primarily on the ore trains in the steam era? Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 DVD's with footage include; Marsden Rail 4 Darlington Marsden Rail 17 North Durham Highways & By-Ways of North Eastern Steam (TVP) Power of the 9fs (TVP) B % R Vol36 Steam North of York Mike I should have looked back through this thread. Many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 Pontop crossing 1966 by Ian Carr. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/gallery/pictures-by-ian-carr-11041297 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted April 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2018 The excellent book as safe as yesterday by Steve Sheilds has quite a lot in about Consett working http://neconnected.co.uk/railwaymans-tales-head-steam/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 I got a copy of Marsden rail 17 North Durham a couple of days ago. Superb footage! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 Effort at Tyne Dock by Geoff Dowling, on Flickr 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Wow! That startling side elev of the 9F tiptoeing across Pontop Crossing is well worth trying to make into a painting. dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 An unknown 9F passes Beamish Signal Box sometime in the early 1960s. Photo copyright Mick Worrall 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yardman Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Lovely shots Ernie! thanks must have been fasicnating, does anyone know any good dvds with footage of the 9fs? I wasnt aware class 40s were used as bankers, any more shots or info on that? cheers guys Mike see here https://www.flickr.com/photos/115646323@N04/30224984094/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 Trying to find shots and location of Banks yard, the zig zag and a tunnel mouth. Shots of it appear on Marsden rail 17. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Effort at Tyne Dock by Geoff Dowling, on Flickr Is that Simonside Wagon Works in the background? Even into the 1980s, there'd be a train conveying all sorts of 'crippled' wagons that would go from Tyne Yard to there, passing Gateshead depot about 12:30. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Is that Simonside Wagon Works in the background? No. That's the straight section of Tyne Dock Loco shed, which wasn't located at Tyne Dock for those that don't know. Simonside wagon works was off to the North West and accessed from St Bedes Junction on the South Shields to Jarrow line or directly from the BR yards at Tyne Dock Bottom. It was located on what is now Waldridge Way. https://goo.gl/maps/9UQwxW1PCrJ2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Beamish again, this time, 9F 92097 on 10 April 1965 with the RCTS North Eastern No2 Railtour. Photo copyright Mick Worrall. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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