dpgibbons Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 The B4 wasn’t on Dapol’s stand at GOG Barnsley, but the they told me that they will appear in stores in the next week or two. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 A bit fishy if you ask me. If I was about to bring a new product to market I would be showing off any prototype I had. Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted June 4, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, MarcD said: A bit fishy if you ask me. If I was about to bring a new product to market I would be showing off any prototype I had. Marc They’ve been showing them for months, they just don’t take everything to every show especially if doing different shows / open days the same weekend. They didn’t take the 66 to Ally Pally. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpgibbons Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 The first B4 shipment has now arrived at Dapol. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted June 5, 2023 Moderators Share Posted June 5, 2023 Looking forward to one arriving here in a few days to do the review for BRM. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted June 5, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2023 This could be the loco that finally tempts me into making a start in 7mm....... Rob 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted June 5, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: This could be the loco that finally tempts me into making a start in 7mm....... Rob Not the incoming J94 then.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted June 5, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Gilbert said: Not the incoming J94 then.... Mmmmm..........no, I don't think so. Happy with the B4, given the quality of the 4mm job. To be honest, I should have paid more attention to the Heljan waspy 03. We might have ended up with a 7mm version of Ewe. Now, if Rapido had gone ahead with their J70............ Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted June 5, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: Mmmmm..........no, I don't think so. Happy with the B4, given the quality of the 4mm job. To be honest, I should have paid more attention to the Heljan waspy 03. We might have ended up with a 7mm version of Ewe. Now, if Rapido had gone ahead with their J70............ Rob. 03 is tidy.... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted June 5, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Gilbert said: Not helping..........Good job it's not green with wasp stripes.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Both Hattons and Rails have posted that the B4 DC version arrived today. Cheers Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted June 7, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) Mine arrived yesterday afternoon - No 91, in LSWR lined green, excellent finish and really looks the part. Took it to the Club last night and it ran sweetly at all speeds and in both directions for over an hour - MS440 decoder and speakers ordered today. Must finish the Vulcan kit now!!! regards Mike Edited June 13, 2023 by Ressaldar 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfish Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) Has anybody had a chance to try this on small radius curves? The large overhang at the rear looks tailor made to create buffer lock. Edited June 15, 2023 by goldfish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted June 15, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, goldfish said: Has anybody had a chance to try this on small radius curves? The large overhang at the rear looks tailor made to create buffer lock. I watched the Sam's trains video of the B4 yesterday evening and it showed the in reverse buffer lock occurred around R2 curves but it did not happen going forwards. I would say however that Sam's track laying would not lead me to wonder if there is a kink between 2 bits of curved track. There was a close up in the video which seemed to show a sudden slip of the buffers behind each other just at a track joint. The video is here The part of the video you you want is abut 29:30 Edited June 15, 2023 by Kris 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfish Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 41 minutes ago, Kris said: The part of the video you you want is abut 29:30 Thank you for that. I most watch the whole video at some point. The problem occurred as the wagon transitioned from the curve to the straight, but managed the transition from the straight to the curve and the curve itself. It is unclear if that curve is setrack or a piece of flextrack, either way Sam,s track laying leaves something to be desired. I though I was bad but at least I have some sort of support under all my track. It is a pity he didn't show what happens when pushing the wagon trough the double curve in the points. If a short wheelbase wagon causes problems then the 4-wheel coaches must be must pose real difficulties on R2 curves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted June 15, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) Most versions have bigger buffers which presumably makes a bit of difference. In checking this, I noticed the Caen version seems to have changed between pre-production (big buffers) and final (small). The point of any sample is to check details so I have no problem with alterations but given the increasing move towards short runs and pre-ordering, getting the factory to send out photos of the actual model before it arrives would be helpful. Edited June 15, 2023 by Hal Nail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 I think Its less about the wheel base and more to do with the over hang. if he had turned the loco round then don't think he would have the same problem. I have the same problem running my terrier's bunker first through set track points. I might have to get one to run on WC Boggs. It would go well with the LSWR terrier. Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted June 15, 2023 Moderators Share Posted June 15, 2023 Oof! You don't want to drop that on your toes! 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted June 15, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2023 The 4mm version is one of the best running four wheel chassis I’ve seen and with that weight I’m looking forward to my two turning up! Might need to beef up the layout legs though 😆 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfish Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 2 hours ago, MarcD said: I think Its less about the wheel base and more to do with the over hang. if he had turned the loco round then don't think he would have the same problem. It is the combination of a short wheelbase and the long overhang that the causes the problem, it is a pity Sam didn't show more of it through the points. It could easily be resolved by a change of couplings, but from the video it looks like Dapol have buried them again, so that might be difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wotan Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 We’ve got a very large and real Normandy at the Bluebell Railway and in the shop the slightly smaller new Dapol model, we took the little one to meet its big brother this morning… best Michael 16 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpgibbons Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Presumably the factory fitted sounds are authentic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Having listened to one go round the Carlisle test track this afternoon I'm not convinced the sound is that great. It sounded more like a 3 cylinder compound than a 2 cylinder shunter. It looked good even though this one was in in BR black. I think I might be tempted to get a DC one and fit my own chip. Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted June 26, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) Not particularly impressed with ‘Sound Fitted’ with the decoder tray just lobbed in loose and bouncing around in the post! Both loose and Normandy has paint chips as a result. Ok they are dead easy to fit, once you’ve moved the wires from across the socket but how is this sound fitted for a novice? The locos are beautiful and I’ve switched to realdrive which works nicely. The other moan is how about a full function list? F1-F15, is that it? Most Zimo decoders allow a volume control on the F buttons so I assume this isn’t set up and I’ll have to do some digging to find out how to switch it on. I’ve tried reducing cv266 to 40 from 64 but it doesn’t reduce it much at all. Loco 9.5/10 Edit: A positive response from Joel at Dapol Edited June 26, 2023 by PaulRhB 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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