009 micro modeller Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 48 minutes ago, Cowley 47521 said: Great photos. It’s a bit more overgrown now but a few years ago I did trundle along it in the van one day. Looks like I wasn’t the only one either… Can you drive along it? On Google maps it looks like the public road is parallel rather than directly on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowley 47521 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, 009 micro modeller said: Can you drive along it? On Google maps it looks like the public road is parallel rather than directly on it. Yes it is parallel to the main highway but it seems to be a bit of no mans land that doesn’t get used for anything other than walking now. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, 009 micro modeller said: Can you drive along it? On Google maps it looks like the public road is parallel rather than directly on it. The link between the branch rail and the local road is visible on the map of the branch. https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.2&lat=50.80083&lon=-3.45390&layers=168&b=1 To get a better view of the modern road, use the slider control (bottom left, under the words "Change transparency of overlay:") 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: The link between the branch rail and the local road is visible on the map of the branch. https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.2&lat=50.80083&lon=-3.45390&layers=168&b=1 To get a better view of the modern road, use the slider control (bottom left, under the words "Change transparency of overlay:") I presumed that the line was set in setts because it was also the main access road to the site, but it seems not. I wonder if it was because the wagons were originally horse drawn to the mill? Also you can see more of the line where it runs parallel to the road... https://www.google.com/maps/@50.8037445,-3.4533693,3a,75y,62.8h,91.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSp95iaU5O0TGvXywmk6L1g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu Edited July 30, 2023 by montyburns56 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 An internet search leads straight back to here! 😀 Thanks to @Jenny Emily and the post in 2012. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 For our bonus points, at the next station up the same line, the trackwork at Hele Paper Mill is still visible on Google maps. Here for the three-way point in the mill itself. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8125962,-3.4286255,90m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&entry=ttu Here for the two curves closer to the station. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8116963,-3.4273283,90m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&entry=ttu 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 On 29/07/2023 at 17:49, 33C said: Cor! The fun you could have with a p.way trolley and an air horn..... Or this? 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted July 30, 2023 Author Share Posted July 30, 2023 32 minutes ago, 009 micro modeller said: Or this? Better not use the air horn then.............WOAH! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowley 47521 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, 33C said: Better not use the air horn then.............WOAH! Yeah, a horse got spooked and sat down on the bonnet of my friends Transit van a few years ago (it wasn’t him that spooked it). That’s put me off them a bit… 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Crofts Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Wow, what a rabbit hole that Silverton siding is. Armchair investigating at its finest. Picture of Silverton Mill in 1933, I think looking north west (wagons top right hand corner). Now, how did they get planning permission for that in beautiful countryside? 😊 https://www.teignrail.co.uk/scouting/64-silverton/ https://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw041144 https://maps.nls.uk/view/189239859 Still no information found about how the siding was worked. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Sitham Yard Posted August 2, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Michael Crofts said: Wow, what a rabbit hole that Silverton siding is. Armchair investigating at its finest. Picture of Silverton Mill in 1933, I think looking north west (wagons top right hand corner). Now, how did they get planning permission for that in beautiful countryside? Not sure if you are being serious or not? Before the Town and Country Planning Act 1947 were there any controls on what was built where? Andrew 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 2, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Michael Crofts said: Wow, what a rabbit hole that Silverton siding is. Armchair investigating at its finest. Picture of Silverton Mill in 1933, I think looking north west (wagons top right hand corner). Now, how did they get planning permission for that in beautiful countryside? 😊 https://www.teignrail.co.uk/scouting/64-silverton/ https://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw041144 https://maps.nls.uk/view/189239859 Still no information found about how the siding was worked. No planning approval was required prior to the 1944 & 1947 Town & Country planning acts. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 2, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2, 2023 The 1944 act was more to do with replacing bomb damaged properties in cities etc. The 1947 sets out the modern planning requirements, with later amendments. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Crofts Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Sitham Yard said: Not sure if you are being serious or not? Before the Town and Country Planning Act 1947 were there any controls on what was built where? Andrew 2 hours ago, melmerby said: No planning approval was required prior to the 1944 & 1947 Town & Country planning acts. 1 hour ago, melmerby said: The 1944 act was more to do with replacing bomb damaged properties in cities etc. The 1947 sets out the modern planning requirements, with later amendments. Oh I give up. Humour has no place on the internet. All my little jokes fall flat even when I add one of those emoji whatsits to signify a smile. ☹️ 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Sitham Yard Posted August 2, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2023 38 minutes ago, Michael Crofts said: Oh I give up. Humour has no place on the internet. All my little jokes fall flat even when I add one of those emoji whatsits to signify a smile. ☹️ Sorry don't understand these whatsits which I have trouble seeing anyway due to my current eyesight. Will need cataracts operated on near future. It was a serious question however as I was not sure of the answer. Andrew 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 14 hours ago, Michael Crofts said: Oh I give up. Humour has no place on the internet. All my little jokes fall flat even when I add one of those emoji whatsits to signify a smile. ☹️ 16 hours ago, Sitham Yard said: Before the Town and Country Planning Act 1947 Before that it was the "I'm the Lord Of The Manor, and I'll do what I like" Act. 😀 Quote The site has been used as a mill since at least the early 16c when it appears to have been a fulling mill before becoming a grist mill. The mill itself, not the house, appears to have burnt down sometime around 1740 and to have been rebuilt around 1760. In 1783, William Matthews took control and ran it as a paper mill; a function it serves to the present day. https://heritagerecords.nationaltrust.org.uk/HBSMR/MonRecord.aspx?uid=MNA103936 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Not the usual pictures on here but walked from Cortonwood shopping centre to Elsecar today and the sight of the dormant heritage railway was very depressing. All the track and pw has been removed from Elsecar station site and this is the view towards Cortonwood. 3 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 7 hours ago, Erichill16 said: Not the usual pictures on here but walked from Cortonwood shopping centre to Elsecar today and the sight of the dormant heritage railway was very depressing. All the track and pw has been removed from Elsecar station site and this is the view towards Cortonwood. I'd still love to know what the hell happened here, exactly. I rode the line with my youngest about 5 years back, the train shuttling out a short way and back. But the line continued out into the distance, there was a brand spanking new set of barriers and lights at a level crossing, and when I asked another photographer he said it was the local council refusing to commision it as safe to operate. The last time I was around there supposedly the council had 'big plans' for the railway. I hadn't realised those plans were 'weigh it in for scrap'... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) Findhorn. No it's not the Findhorn Railway (closed 1869). This was once a slipway for launching boats into Findhorn Bay. Edited August 4, 2023 by Michael Hodgson 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 4, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 4, 2023 On 10/07/2023 at 02:36, big jim said: "Hatchet Harry's Axe Throwing". Wow... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted August 4, 2023 Author Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 hour ago, St Enodoc said: "Hatchet Harry's Axe Throwing". Wow... "Doctor Beeching's railway axeing" ! And that's why we come here... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 4, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 4, 2023 7 hours ago, Ben B said: The last time I was around there supposedly the council had 'big plans' for the railway. I hadn't realised those plans were 'weigh it in for scrap'... Apparently the rails and structures were removed in the station area to carry out an archealogical investigation, with a view to re-instate them in the future. The site is a Scheduled Monument and any development needs to acknowledge that. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 On 02/08/2023 at 22:40, Sitham Yard said: Sorry don't understand these whatsits which I have trouble seeing anyway due to my current eyesight. Will need cataracts operated on near future. It was a serious question however as I was not sure of the answer. Andrew As you may be viewing on tablet or smart phone....use two finger zoom function? On PC change your %zoom in settings My dad got given a 12inch x12inch magnifying glass when rewiring a uni in Manchester that he use to read the liverpool evening rag with.... Eye sight is a wonderful thing until it starts to fail with age I do find myself using a head magnifying thing for modeling...cheap as chips from boyes department store 8quid!...(decent selection of model bits and paint no trains though )that I've fitted with cheap rechargeable led cob lights I have 3 lights they last about 45mins then swap over for fresh one. G 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 I havent heard anything yet why Elsecar shut, whether the railway closed specifically because the council wanted to do the digging or if the society just happened to fold and then the council took the opportunity to to the digging with it already closed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 I think this is as close as you’re going to get. https://www.barnsleychronicle.com/article/24332/closed-railway-given-fresh-hope-of-revival I think Covid and the lack of progress with the level crossing are factors. There was some evidence of excavation work having been done near the footbridge but vey little evidence of work aimed at restoring the railway. By the looks of the photo the station area was laid on a concrete pad. The article says the council is ‘working with the trustees’ of the railway and the railway still owns some stock. These we’re the only items of stock to be seen and I believe they are owned by the council.Behind the brake van is evidence of the excavation work, the footbridge and in the distance the engine shed. 8 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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