RMweb Gold 97406 Posted February 18, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) On 16/02/2022 at 12:10, 47606odin said: i’ll be able to compare it to my old Hornby 90’s pan when it arrives I managed to find some class 92 pans on Ebay for £20-odd. They're made from the same sort of plastic that bogie sideframes are made from, so much stronger than the crappy styrene pan that comes with the 87. The springing is quite severe, and there's a graceful curve on the upper section, but I may be able to make it serviceable. Edited March 31, 2022 by 97406 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted February 18, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) My updated 86/0 has been outshopped this morning. Happy memories of the 0s and 3s running around in pairs in banger blue. Edited March 31, 2022 by 97406 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 9 hours ago, 97406 said: I managed to find some class 92 pans on Ebay for £20-odd. They're made from the same sort of plastic that bogie sideframes are made from, so much stronger than the crappy styrene pan that comes with the 87. The springing is quite severe, and there's a graceful curve on the upper section, but I may be able to make it serviceable. very curved lol. hopefully Accurascale will decide it’s worth selling their 92 pans seperate 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) Because of your thread, I’ve had to get my roarer back. I had sold it to a friend of mine. I had weathered it and was very happy with it. I think this was a fair swap for a dirty log I still had here she is, now I need the 86 and 87 to arrive to keep me out of mischief until the 92’s rock up nb. I noticed from these photos the body wasn’t fitted correctly. This has now been rectified Edited February 19, 2022 by 47606odin 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted February 19, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2022 31 minutes ago, 47606odin said: Because of your thread, I’ve had to get my roarer back. I had sold it to a friend of mine. I had weathered it and was very happy with it. I think this was a fair swap for a dirty log I still had here she is, now I need the 86 and 87 to arrive to keep me out of mischief until the 92’s rock up It’s a good model. I forward dated one of those as I could only get an early rail blue one at the time with a broken pantograph. The recessed gutters got filled in and there’s new gutters, a Sommerfeldt pantograph and temporary air tanks off that HO scale class 81 held in place with Blu Tack. At some point I want to do an 81 based on the Bachy 85. I also have styrene tube for new air tanks. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 3 hours ago, 97406 said: It’s a good model. I forward dated one of those as I could only get an early rail blue one at the time with a broken pantograph. The recessed gutters got filled in and there’s new gutters, a Sommerfeldt pantograph and temporary air tanks off that HO scale class 81 held in place with Blu Tack. At some point I want to do an 81 based on the Bachy 85. I also have styrene tube for new air tanks. a very nice lineup of banger blue. It appears I may have another 85 on its way, and now a modern 90. So because of this thread, I’ve got 2 85’s, an 86, an 87 on there way and 2 92’s on order, plus a few appropriate wagons to suit, I’m going to have to build something to display them on 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6990WitherslackHall Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Just now, 47606odin said: I’m going to have to build something to display them on Perhaps a small section of the WCML? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Just now, 6990WitherslackHall said: Perhaps a small section of the WCML? i had considered something like mitre bridge, where 47’s and AC locos changed over like the good old days on Brighton trains 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted February 20, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2022 On 19/02/2022 at 10:20, 47606odin said: i had considered something like mitre bridge, where 47’s and AC locos changed over like the good old days on Brighton trains I think my mantlepiece diorama is likely to be depot sidings with either a bridge or the entrance to a shed at the far end. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) I have to admit this thread has inspired me, the fictional ‘off scene’ ac stabling point is now going to be an ‘on scene’ ac stabling point. (Edited to add I’ve just bought another early AL5 although it was a bargain) keep up the great work Edited February 21, 2022 by PjKing1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted February 21, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, PjKing1 said: I have to admit this thread has inspired me, the fictional ‘off scene’ ac stabling point is now going to be an ‘on scene’ ac stabling point. (Edited to add I’ve just bought another early AL5 although it was a bargain) keep up the great work I've just had a look on your page, and what you are proposing reflects what could well happen with my layout when I eventually incorporate it into a bigger layout. One of the ideas I'm currently cogitating on is for the spare bedroom, with a spur into the fitted closet at the rear left. The spur will be the existing layout. It is not likely to happen for a good few years as I'm chokka with work, the locos and other activities at the moment, but I have a decent amount of time to formulate the plan. It may end up in a nice shed in the garden as an alternative. Edited February 21, 2022 by 97406 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 09/02/2022 at 13:47, 47606odin said: So divide by 120 and multiply by 100 to get the price without VAT. Just divide by 1.2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted February 21, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Lurch said: Just divide by 1.2. You only get awarded full marks if you show the working. It also explains the formula. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2022 6 hours ago, 97406 said: I've just had a look on your page, and what you are proposing reflects what could well happen with my layout when I eventually incorporate it into a bigger layout. One of the ideas I'm currently cogitating on is for the spare bedroom, with a spur into the fitted closet at the rear left. The spur will be the existing layout. It is not likely to happen for a good few years as I'm chokka with work, the locos and other activities at the moment, but I have a decent amount of time to formulate the plan. It may end up in a nice shed in the garden as an alternative. Sounds interesting, I really need to get the garage set up properly, or ideally move somewhere with a purpose build man cave as we do want to move in the next few years. I might dust Templot off tonight and see what I can come up with as regards to my stabling point. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Well, I’ve succumbed to another Heljan 86, as my 85 got cancelled as the shop decided it is too difficult to post to Australia now so now I have 404 coming to join 622 and will become eventually after I tweak the paint job, 417 The Kingsman 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted February 23, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, 47606odin said: Well, I’ve succumbed to another Heljan 86, as my 85 got cancelled as the shop decided it is too difficult to post to Australia now so now I have 404 coming to join 622 and will become eventually after I tweak the paint job, 417 The Kingsman Oh no! Look forward to see what you do with the 86. I’d probably leave moving the red/white stripe down by the fraction of a mm if the end is going full yellow, as it was only noticeable to me around the headcode box. I have 7 of the latest Heljan 86s now and 3 Hornby ones, too in a cupboard upstairs. Time to move on to some 87s next, which will be 3 in total when I’ve finished the new ones. Edited February 23, 2022 by 97406 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted February 27, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) I have just outshopped the first of 2 87s that are available brand new from either Hattons or Kernow for £120-odd. I backdated it so it's in mid-80s condition with the more modern roof detail removed and the holes filled in. The MU gear is based on moulds taken from Hornby class 50 with fuse wire for the cable. The original style of high intensity headlight is some styrene tube with some black marker pen applied and a short length of acrylic rod up the middle. The pantograph is the Limby class 92 one with the springs removed and diliute acrylic varnish applied to all the joints to make them a little stiffer so it is posable. It is a lot more robust than the utterly bobbins pantograph that came with the loco that falls apart if you sneeze near to it. The top section of the pan was straightened by pouring boiling water on it and then bending it back into a straight(ish) line. It started out as 87001, but it is now numbered and named as 87025 County of Cheshire. The cab fronts and one lower bodyside have been resprayed with Precision Paints signal yellow and BR blue. It'll be staying ex-works as I do like the odd clean banger blue loco every now and again. Edited March 31, 2022 by 97406 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted February 27, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) I had the pleasure stumbling across this video whilst looking up information of the Class 87. The cover image is a little misleading, but it’s pure magic! Edited February 27, 2022 by 97406 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Sweet pea Posted February 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2022 Thanks for the video. I have just ordered the Hornby 87002 royal sovereign. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) This has arrived….so I shall be starting a new topic of my own at some stage to create something for it to live on I’ve created the following thread so I don’t keep hijacking this one Edited February 28, 2022 by 47606odin 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted February 28, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, 47606odin said: This has arrived….so I shall be starting a new topic of my own at some stage to create something for it to live on I’ve created the following thread so I don’t keep hijacking this one A nice little display. What do you think of the roof’s blue colour compared to the 47? I did wonder if it needed darkening a little bit before I eventually decided to respray mine into Executive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, 97406 said: A nice little display. What do you think of the roof’s blue colour compared to the 47? I did wonder if it needed darkening a little bit before I eventually decided to respray mine into Executive. Dazzling it will get weathered down Edited February 28, 2022 by 47606odin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted February 28, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, 47606odin said: Dazzling it will get weathered down I’ll have to wait for my Accurascale 92 to arrive to be sure! Or hunt down a real one. I was considering spraying a thin wash of black on mine, then the lure of Executive took over! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, 97406 said: I’ll have to wait for my Accurascale 92 to arrive to be sure! Or hunt down a real one. I was considering spraying a thin wash of black on mine, then the lure of Executive took over! lol thats exactly what this one will get, although might make it a dark grey. I’m considering tweaking the pan head a bit, and I’m not sure the entire roof well should be dark blue. Trouble is, I don’t know anyone from CE who would have worked on them then, and can’t see on photos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted March 1, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) I've finally taken the plunge and got me a Skoda. The eventual aim is to have another in IC Swallow and one in IC Mainline to go with it. I may end up respraying another railfreight example into IC Swallow as they are rare and expensive. The pantograph is excellent, showing up Hornby's shoddy effort even more! Edited March 31, 2022 by 97406 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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